<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ok. Good to know that I can do that. I did already try AutoBuild, and found that it got stuck.<div><br></div><div>I also have a partial, 100% identical, molecular replacement model of 1/3 the structure, so I may try giving that to AutoBuild as well to see if it can help.<div><br></div><div>Is there perhaps a means to tell AutoBuild not to re-build the partial model, only to refine it and work on the rest?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your help!</div><div>--James</div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Tom Terwilliger wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi James,<div><br><div>Yes, that is correct.</div><div><br></div><div>However if you want...you can just go on to AutoBuild and build a new model from scratch and generate a set of free R flags there, supplying your data as data=mydata.sca. I would recommend this anyway because AutoBuild makes a much better model than AutoSol, and including the model from AutoSol doesn't necessarily help (and can make it worse if the AutoSol model is really incomplete, such as from secondary-structure-only model-building). I use the AutoSol model-building just to see if things are going well and then I throw that model away. This is also the default when you use "after_autosol=True" in AutoBuild and when you run the AutoBuild GUI after running AutoSol. It is convenient to use the data and freeR in in exptl_fobs_phases_freeR_flags_*.mtz from AutoSol but you don't have to.</div><div><br></div><div>The key of course is: once you refine a model and want to use that model further...you must use the set of free R flags used in that original refinement from then on. If you throw away that model and start from scratch you can also make a new set of free R flags. The hexdigest REMARK in your PDB file from phenix.refine helps you make sure that this is done correctly.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div>Tom T</div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 9, 2009, at 8:35 AM, James Whittle wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear Tom:<div><br></div><div>Ok. Thanks for the quick response!</div><div><br></div><div>I should run then run AutoSol again to get this file, and it will have the HL coefficients in it?</div><div><br></div><div>--James</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 9, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Tom Terwilliger wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi James,<div><br></div><div>As you are expecting, in AutoSol the file exptl_fobs_phases_freeR_flags_*.mtz normally contains the experimental Fobs and free R flags for refinement, along with phases and HL coefficients from the experimental phasing. </div><div><br></div><div>However if an anisotropy correction is applied to the data, then by default no refinement is done in AutoSol and no exptl_fobs_phases_freeR_flags_*.mtz file is created. This is to ensure that refinement is not carried out against anisotropy-corrected data (you want to refine against the original data, and have phenix.refine apply an anisotropy correction as part of refinement).</div><div><br></div><div>If you supply </div><div><br></div><div>input_refinement_file=my_data.sca </div><div><br></div><div>then my_data.sca will be used for refinement and an exptl_fobs_phases_freeR_flags_*.mtz will be created. Note that my_data.sca can be identical to your input data file if you want. I am guessing that in your case an anisotropy correction was applied to the data in this way. </div><div><br></div><div>I hope that helps!</div><div>-Tom T</div><div>ps. I am thinking of changing the default to make input_refinement_file automatically defined if an anisotropy correction is applied so that you don't have to do this...</div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div>On Jul 9, 2009, at 7:55 AM, whittle wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Dear all,<br><br>I have a question regarding the output of AutoSol.<br><br>I've run AutoSol, using the data directly from scalepack as a .sca file,<br>and would like to now begin refining the structure I've built.<br><br>There seems to be no exptl_fobs_phases_freeR_flags_*.mtz file in the<br>AutoSol directory. Isn't this the right file to use? 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