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    Hi Tatyana,<br>
    <br>
    could you please send me the data and model files (off-list) so I
    can investigate? I will post the summary on phenixbb once we know
    what's going on.<br>
    <br>
    I see a number of potential issues but I don't want to waste time
    guessing, since it's much more efficient if you send me the files
    then I run some tests and tell you how to proceed.<br>
    <br>
    I'm pretty confident there is a quick fix.<br>
    <br>
    Thanks!<br>
    Pavel.<br>
    <br>
    On 7/30/11 11:35 AM, Tatyana Sysoeva wrote:
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cite="mid:CAGikDO7iCFgb=fP=LyM1mGQzZ1++HY=FVoJT5SfAbE-166SbYg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">I ran the same commands with the build dev-833.<br>
      Below are the results. <br>
      These parameters are obtained by running phenix.ramalyze, cbetdev,
      and clashscore.<br>
      I am almost done repeating fix-rotamers run. First time it gave a
      way worse validation results then before running phenix without
      fix_rotamers=true. <br>
      I don't understand what I am doing wrong in the runs and would
      appreciate your help!<br>
      <br>
      Thanks,<br>
      Tanya<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <p class="MsoNormalCxSpFirst" style="text-align: justify;"><span
          style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
          &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">I used
          phenix-dev-833 to test the
          riding hydrogens refinement at 3.6A.</span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormalCxSpLast" style="text-align: justify;"><span
          style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
          &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">I ran two
          indentical commands:</span></p>
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          style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
          &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Command line
          arguments: "model.pdb"
          "data.mtz" "main.ncs=true"
          "ncs.find_automatically=false" "ncs_groups.params"
          "refinement.input.xray_data.high_resolution=3.6"
          "mgadpbef.cif"
          "refinement.ncs.excessive_distance_limit=None"
"strategy=individual_sites+individual_sites_real_space+group_adp+occupancies"</span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormalCxSpFirst" style="text-align: justify;"><span
          style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
          &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><span style="">�</span>with
          the only difference in the input files �
          ncs.params and model.pdb</span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="text-align: justify;"><span
          style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
          &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Model pdb contained
          the model
          identical to the control run but with added H atoms. I have
          not add H to the
          ADP molecules since I did not know how to write a correct CIF
          file for it. NCS
          definitions were changed by addition of �and not (element H)�
          to each line. It
          was done to exclude H from the NCS groups.</span></p>
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                    style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                    &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">no
                    hydrogens</span></u></p>
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                    style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                    &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">with
                    hydrogens</span></u><span style="font-size: 12pt;
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                justify;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"># Date
                  2011-07-29 Time 19:09:58 EDT -0400 (1311980998.46 s)</span></p>
              <p class="MsoPlainTextCxSpMiddle" style="text-align:
                justify;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">wall clock
                  time: 2646.75 s</span></p>
              <p class="MsoPlainTextCxSpMiddle" style="text-align:
                justify;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">�</span></p>
              <p class="MsoPlainTextCxSpMiddle" style="text-align:
                justify;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Start
                  R-work = 0.2891, R-free = 0.3267</span></p>
              <p class="MsoPlainTextCxSpLast" style="text-align:
                justify;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Final
                  R-work = 0.2868, R-free = <span style="background:
                    none repeat scroll 0% 0% yellow;">0.3304</span></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                text-align: justify;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">�</span></p>
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                justify;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"># Date
                  2011-07-29 Time 20:14:20 EDT -0400 (1311984860.16 s)</span></p>
              <p class="MsoPlainTextCxSpMiddle" style="text-align:
                justify;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">wall clock
                  time: 6517.60 s</span></p>
              <p class="MsoPlainTextCxSpMiddle" style="text-align:
                justify;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">�</span></p>
              <p class="MsoPlainTextCxSpMiddle" style="text-align:
                justify;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Start
                  R-work = 0.2910, R-free = 0.3273</span></p>
              <p class="MsoPlainTextCxSpLast" style="text-align:
                justify;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Final
                  R-work = 0.2720, R-free = <span style="background:
                    none repeat scroll 0% 0% yellow;">0.3353</span></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormalCxSpFirst" style="margin-bottom:
                0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-size:
                  12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">�</span></p>
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                  style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">clashscore
                  <span style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0%
                    yellow;">31.77</span></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormalCxSpFirst" style="margin-bottom:
                0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-size:
                  12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">clashscore
                  <span style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0%
                    yellow;">96.12</span></span></p>
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                  style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">cbeta <span
                    style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% yellow;">0</span></span></p>
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                0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-size:
                  12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">cbeta <span
                    style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% yellow;">151</span></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"><span
                  style="font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;
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                  0%; -moz-background-clip: border;
                  -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-size:
                  auto auto;">rama 12.62</span><span style="font-family:
                  &quot;Courier New&quot;;">% outliers</span><span
                  style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"></span></p>
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                  10.5pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;
                  background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(255, 255,
                  255);">rama 19.67</span><span style="font-size:
                  10.5pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;
                  background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">% outliers</span><span
                  style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                  &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"></span></p>
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          style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
          &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">�</span></p>
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          style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
          &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Interestingly in
          previous release
          version the same refinement runs produced:</span></p>
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          style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
          &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">without H
          clashscore = 77.580195/cbeta
          =8</span></p>
      <span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
        &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">with H clashscore =
        119.729960/cbeta=330</span><br>
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