I will try this but I performed molecular replacment with the same structure that has a simillar size ligand (Orthorhombic unit cell instead of monoclinic with different lengths and angles). I would be surprised if the changes were this large without any visible fo-fc density showing up.<br>
<br>On Thursday, April 17, 2014, Paul Adams <<a href="mailto:pdadams@lbl.gov">pdadams@lbl.gov</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Given the resolution you might want to try auto(re)building or morphing to see if there are any unexpected structural changes which explain the high R-factor.<br>
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On Apr 17, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Yarrow Madrona <<a>amadrona@UCI.EDU</a>> wrote:<br>
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> There is no significant peaks for translational NCS. I also didn't see anything in the patterson map.<br>
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> However, the Multivariate Z score L-test gives 6.218. Also the observed Centric reflections are more intense than they should be but I don't suspect twinning in a monoclinic space group.<br>
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> -Yarrow<br>
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> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Paul Adams <<a>pdadams@lbl.gov</a>> wrote:<br>
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> What does triage say about translation NCS?<br>
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> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Yarrow Madrona <<a>amadrona@uci.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hello,<br>
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> I using the latest stable build of phenx.refine (1.8.4) I recently collected data, processed and obtained an MR solution using phaser. I am stuck trying to refine with an Rfree sitting at 40%<br>
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> I really want to know if the high Rfree is due to poor data quality or if non-crystallographic symmetry involving a near perfect two fold rotation between the two molecules in the ASU could somehow impede refinement. Stats and other information is below. Thank you for any help you can give.<br>
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> -Yarrow<br>
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> Visually, the quality of the data is marginal at best (streaky/ice rings in many frames) despite good processing stats from XDS. Processing with mosflm or HKL2000 managed to index but failed pretty bad in integration and scaling.<br>
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> Phaser gave high TFZ scores for 2 molecules in the asu (see below).<br>
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> Density for a cholesterol like ligand shows up even though not present in the search model.<br>
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> MolRep Self rotation shows rotational symmetry.<br>
> <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/2zsajl5o091k50r/CYP142A2-032814_21_rf%20copy.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/2zsajl5o091k50r/CYP142A2-032814_21_rf%20copy.pdf</a><br>
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> The 2 molecules in the ASU are related by almost a 2 fold rotation:<br>
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> Rotation matrix for chain A to chain B:<br>
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> new_ncs_group<br>
> rota_matrix 1.0000 0.0000 0.0000<br>
> rota_matrix 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000<br>
> rota_matrix 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000<br>
> tran_orth 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000<br>
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> center_orth 15.2016 0.5245 33.7070<br>
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> rota_matrix -0.9860 -0.1636 -0.0309<br>
> rota_matrix -0.1659 0.9511 0.2605<br>
> rota_matrix -0.0132 0.2620 -0.9650<br>
> tran_orth 34.3310 -24.0033 107.0457<br>
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> center_orth 15.7607 7.2426 77.7512<br>
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> RMSD, B onto A = 0.0007 after phaser<br>
> RMSD, B onto A = 0.347 after one round of refinement in phenix<br>
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> Refinement using aniostropically corrected data (ucla web server: <a href="http://Services.mbi.ucla.edu/anisoscale" target="_blank">Services.mbi.ucla.edu/anisoscale</a>) did not improve the Rfree in refinement.<br>
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> Statistics are listed below:<br>
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> UNIT CELL: 51.487 88.923 89.592 90 97.15 90 P21<br>
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> RESOLUTION NUMBER OF REFLECTIONS COMPLETENESS R-FACTOR R-FACTOR COMPARED I/SIGMA R-meas CC(1/2) Anomal SigAno Nano<br>
> LIMIT OBSERVED UNIQUE POSSIBLE OF DATA observed expected Corr<br>
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> 5.99 8280 1927 2087 92.3% 3.1% 3.3% 8246 35.09 3.5% 99.8* 20* 0.909 1296<br>
> 4.30 14606 3401 3487 97.5% 3.3% 3.5% 14580 33.37 3.8% 99.9* 11* 0.843 2273<br>
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