<div dir="ltr">On the topic of twin refinement, I think it would be useful to implement the input of multiple twin laws. Xtriage identified three twin laws, but I had to refine in Refmac5 because only one could be entered in Phenix.<br>
<br>Thanks,<br>Chris<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Pavel Afonine <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pafonine@lbl.gov" target="_blank">pafonine@lbl.gov</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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    In terms of actual implementation I have this in mind:<br>
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    <a href="http://www.phenix-online.org/newsletter/CCN_2011_01.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.phenix-online.org/newsletter/CCN_2011_01.pdf</a><br>
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    &quot;Maximum likelihood refinement of twinned structures&quot;, page 29.<br>
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    Of course that would not stop (me) from implementing better ideas
    should they arrive. However the paper mentioned above pictures a
    clear image of the problem that we are going to address.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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    <div>On 7/29/14, 12:30 PM, Chris Fage wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Thank you, Randy, Nat, and Peter. I&#39;ll keep an eye
        out for that pub.<br>
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        Best,<br>
        Chris<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Randy
          Read <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rjr27@cam.ac.uk" target="_blank">rjr27@cam.ac.uk</a>&gt;</span>
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            were hoping to make some generalisations and improvements
            before publishing this.  (Which we obviously haven’t gotten
            around to doing yet!)<br>
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            Randy<br>
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            Randy J. Read<br>
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                On 29 Jul 2014, at 13:44, Nathaniel Echols &lt;<a href="mailto:nechols@lbl.gov" target="_blank">nechols@lbl.gov</a>&gt;
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                &gt; On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Chris Fage &lt;<a href="mailto:cdfage@gmail.com" target="_blank">cdfage@gmail.com</a>&gt;
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                &gt; Can anyone please direct me to a literature
                reference describing the maximum likelihood method for
                detection of twinning based on twin laws, as implemented
                in phenix.xtriage?<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; If you mean the twin fraction estimation, the code
                doesn&#39;t have anything more helpful than this:<br>
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                &gt; Zwart, Read, Grosse-Kunstleve &amp; Adams, to be
                published<br>
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                &gt; -Nat<br>
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