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    Hi,<br>
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    F(+),SIGF(+),F(-),SIGF(-) are derived from <span
      style="line-height: 1.33;">I(+),SIGI(+),I(-),SIGI(-) using various
      approximations that depend on underlying model</span>. In this
    sense <span style="line-height: 1.33;">I(+),SIGI(+),I(-),SIGI(-) is
      more original and richer data than </span>F(+),SIGF(+),F(-),SIGF(-).<br>
    <br>
    If F(+),SIGF(+),F(-),SIGF(-) were used in refinement to obtain
    deposited structure then this would be a good reason to have both, F
    and I.<br>
    <br>
    Pavel<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/3/14 8:33 AM, PC wrote:<br>
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      <div>Hi Pavel and Phenix users.</div>
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      <div>Thank you for your reply.</div>
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      <div>I see in 2y78.mtz (example I used below) has both in the MTZ:</div>
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      <div>� F(+),SIGF(+),F(-),SIGF(-)�</div>
      <div><span style="line-height: 1.33;">� I(+),SIGI(+),I(-),SIGI(-)�</span></div>
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      I am confused, why? One is sufficient isn't it?
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      <div>Thank you,</div>
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              <b>From:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pafonine@lbl.gov">pafonine@lbl.gov</a><br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:45:58 -0700<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:patrick.cossins@inbox.com">patrick.cossins@inbox.com</a>,
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:phenixbb@phenix-online.org">phenixbb@phenix-online.org</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [phenixbb] phenix.refine and R free
              values<br>
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              <div> Hello,<br>
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                  <div>Hi Phenix users,</div>
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                  <div>I was trying to experiment with phenix.refine
                    using default parameters (2Y78.pdb) and I got the
                    following message.</div>
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                  <div><span _style="line-height: 1.33;">Multiple
                      equally suitable arrays of observed�</span>X-ray<span
                      _style="line-height: 1.33;">�data found.</span></div>
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                  <div>Possible choices:</div>
                  <div>� 2Y78.mtz:IOBS,SIGIOBS</div>
                  <div>� 2Y78.mtz:I(+),SIGI(+),I(-),SIGI(-)</div>
                  <div><br>
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                  <div>Please use refinement.input.xray_data.labels</div>
                  <div>to specify an unambiguous substring of the target
                    label.</div>
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                  <div>Anyway, two questions related to this:</div>
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                  <div>1) How does one pick of the two options above? <br>
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                If your question is about the syntax:<br>
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                phenix.refine model.pdb data.mtz
                xray_data.labels="IOBS,SIGIOBS"<br>
                or<br>
                phenix.refine model.pdb data.mtz
                xray_data.labels="I(+),SIGI(+" <br>
                (sub-string should work).<br>
                <br>
                If your question is about choice anomalous vs
                non-anomalous data to be used: I would use anomalous
                because it is a richer source of information, you will
                get anomalous difference map, you can refine anomalous
                f'&amp;f'', etc.<br>
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                  <div>2) If R work/R free went from 0.1044/0.1142 �to
                    0.1096/0.1200 is that bad or is it acceptable?</div>
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                <br>
                R-factors look similar to me. Systematic slight increase
                may mean you need to adjust target weights or choose
                refinement strategy more tailored to the quality of
                input data and model.<br>
                <br>
                Pavel<br>
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