<div dir="ltr">Hi Pavel,<div>Thank you.<div><br></div><div>If I wanted to compare a RCSB structure&#39;s highest resolution shell R with my refined highest resolution shell R.</div><div><br></div><div>Do I generate a log file with the binned R <u><b>for the RCSB structure</b></u> by running phenix.refine but with <b><u>strategy=&#39;none&#39; </u></b></div><div><br></div><div>or is there a way to generate these binned R factors for the deposited structure without running a refine cycle with none as strategy?</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you,</div><div>George</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Pavel Afonine <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pafonine@lbl.gov" target="_blank">pafonine@lbl.gov</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Hi George,<br>
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    look in phenix.refine log file: it prints statistics in resolution
    bins (R-factors, completeness, number of reflections, &lt;F&gt;,
    etc); so you can take the number from highest resolution shell. Of
    course the definition of &quot;highest resolution shell&quot; is somewhat
    arbitrary, and also depends on how you do binning. <br><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
    <br>
    Pavel</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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    <div>On 1/13/15 6:48 AM, George Devaniranjan
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi,
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        <div>I am sorry to ask another question, this is related to the
          above hence following up on this thread.</div>
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        <div>I can calculate R/R-free using the validation tool but how
          does one calculate the </div>
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        <div>Thank you,</div>
        <div>George</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Tim
          Gruene <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:tg@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de" target="_blank">tg@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de</a>&gt;</span>
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            <br>
            I was puzzled and misled by the choice of terms and implied
            an intent<br>
            that apparently wasn&#39;t there.<br>
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            Best,<br>
            Tim<br>
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                On 01/12/2015 10:01 PM, Pavel Afonine wrote:<br>
                &gt; Hi Tim,<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; it is a shame that I can&#39;t remember that particular
                paper where I think<br>
                &gt; Randy Read or Axel Brunger have demonstrated that
                phase error and Rfree<br>
                &gt; are well correlated. So if you get best Rwork and
                Rfree chances are you<br>
                &gt; also get best map too.<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; All the best,<br>
                &gt; Pavel<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; On 1/12/15 3:54 AM, Tim Gruene wrote:<br>
                &gt;&gt; Dear George,<br>
                &gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt; what are the reasons why are you trying to
                reduce the R/Rfree instead of<br>
                &gt;&gt; producing the best possible map?<br>
                &gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt; Best,<br>
                &gt;&gt; Tim<br>
                &gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt; On 01/11/2015 11:24 PM, George D wrote:<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Phenix users,<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt; I was looking at the phenix-refine manual
                and it mentions running<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt; optimize_mask=true<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt; optimize_xyz_weight=true<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt; optimize_adp_weight=true<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt; I was wondering what else I could try to
                bring the Rw/Rf down by 1-2%<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt; if possible, just wondering if there are
                any other strategies I could<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt; try.<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt; Thank you,<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt; George<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
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