<div dir="ltr">Hi Pavel,<div>Thank you.<div><br></div><div>If I wanted to compare a RCSB structure's highest resolution shell R with my refined highest resolution shell R.</div><div><br></div><div>Do I generate a log file with the binned R <u><b>for the RCSB structure</b></u> by running phenix.refine but with <b><u>strategy='none' </u></b></div><div><br></div><div>or is there a way to generate these binned R factors for the deposited structure without running a refine cycle with none as strategy?</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you,</div><div>George</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Pavel Afonine <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pafonine@lbl.gov" target="_blank">pafonine@lbl.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hi George,<br>
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look in phenix.refine log file: it prints statistics in resolution
bins (R-factors, completeness, number of reflections, <F>,
etc); so you can take the number from highest resolution shell. Of
course the definition of "highest resolution shell" is somewhat
arbitrary, and also depends on how you do binning. <br><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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Pavel</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,
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<div>I am sorry to ask another question, this is related to the
above hence following up on this thread.</div>
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<div>I can calculate R/R-free using the validation tool but how
does one calculate the </div>
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<div>R factors for the highest resolution shell ? </div>
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<div>Thank you,</div>
<div>George</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Tim
Gruene <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tg@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de" target="_blank">tg@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Pavel,<br>
<br>
I was puzzled and misled by the choice of terms and implied
an intent<br>
that apparently wasn't there.<br>
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Best,<br>
Tim<br>
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On 01/12/2015 10:01 PM, Pavel Afonine wrote:<br>
> Hi Tim,<br>
><br>
> it is a shame that I can't remember that particular
paper where I think<br>
> Randy Read or Axel Brunger have demonstrated that
phase error and Rfree<br>
> are well correlated. So if you get best Rwork and
Rfree chances are you<br>
> also get best map too.<br>
><br>
> All the best,<br>
> Pavel<br>
><br>
> On 1/12/15 3:54 AM, Tim Gruene wrote:<br>
>> Dear George,<br>
>><br>
>> what are the reasons why are you trying to
reduce the R/Rfree instead of<br>
>> producing the best possible map?<br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>> Tim<br>
>><br>
>> On 01/11/2015 11:24 PM, George D wrote:<br>
>>> Hi Phenix users,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I was looking at the phenix-refine manual
and it mentions running<br>
>>><br>
>>> optimize_mask=true<br>
>>><br>
>>> optimize_xyz_weight=true<br>
>>><br>
>>> optimize_adp_weight=true<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I was wondering what else I could try to
bring the Rw/Rf down by 1-2%<br>
>>> if possible, just wondering if there are
any other strategies I could<br>
>>> try.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Thank you,<br>
>>><br>
>>> George<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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