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crystallography Q&A site proposal on StackExchange
by Marcin Wojdyr 07 Nov '15

07 Nov '15

Hello, I'm writing about it first to developer mailing lists assuming that developers know StackOverflow. SO has now a number of sister sites on StackExchange and some Q&A sites in the same format are self-hosted, e.g. biostars.org. Here is a list of sites in the science category on SE: http://stackexchange.com/sites#science-traffic I though that such a site for crystallography would be useful, mostly because it has lower psychological and technical barrier for asking questions. I'm not sure how it's on phenixbb and other mailing lists, but on ccp4bb maybe a few percent of all 6000+ subscribers have asked anything at all. I assume people have questions in mind, they are just not eager to ask it by mailing 6000 other people. I don't know if a Q&A site would help, but just to try here is proposal for Crystallography site on SE: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/91841/crystallography Using SE is simpler than hosting it, and even if the proposal doesn't make it at least we'll have an idea what was the interest. Technicalities. New sites are created basically when enough people is interested. Currently the proposal is in the "definition" stage, which means coming up with example questions - to show what kind of questions could be asked when the site exists. To complete this stage we need 40 question with 10+ votes. Everyone has 5 up-votes for selecting good questions. Votes can be changed at any time. So at least 80 voting people would be needed for this stage. Having more example questions would also help. Marcin

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(no subject)
by Nigel Moriarty 07 Nov '15

07 Nov '15

Folks Calling for articles and short communications of interest to structural biologists. The deadline for submission in the January 2016 issue is 18 December 2015 (with some leeway if you are still working on the text, especially as it can be polished over the break). The Computational Crystallography Newsletter (CCN) is an electronic newsletter for structural biologists, and is published online every 6 months. Feature articles, meeting announcements and reports can be submitted to me at any time for consideration. Submission of text by email or word-processing files using the CCN templates is requested. Past newsletters and a Microsoft Word template are available at www.phenix-online.org/newsletter. Cheers Nigel --- Nigel W. Moriarty Building 33R0349, Physical Biosciences Division Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Berkeley, CA 94720-8235 Phone : 510-486-5709 Email : NWMoriarty(a)LBL.gov Fax : 510-486-5909 Web : CCI.LBL.gov

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Unused/old modules on the top-level of cctbx
by Oleg Sobolev 19 Oct '15

19 Oct '15

Hi, I went through top-level directories of cctbx and discovered the following: compcomm - two papers from IUCr computational crystallography authored by Ralf with some scripts. These scripts are referenced in these papers. One paper in LaTeX by Luc Bourhis "Small-molecule toolbox". dox - probably was meant as documentation, actually contains some documentation in RST, Ralf's talks from Siena, 2005, some tutorial in LaTeX, the content for the cctbx website. fftw3tbx - probably is not used anywhere ipctbx - most likely is not used anywhere, wrapper for sys/ipc.h - C library for interprocess communication access structure. rpmbuild - not sure whether it is still needed/working, last change to the only file was on 7-29-2009. setup - not clear whether the only .sh script in this directory is still needed/working. I suggest to move compcomm to dox despite the reference in 2009 paper and remove fftw3tbx, ipctbx, rpmbuild, setup if nobody has an idea why they should stay where they are/be moved somewhere. Best regards, Oleg Sobolev.

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cctbx documentation
by Paul Adams 14 Oct '15

14 Oct '15

Dear Colleagues, we are looking at the cctbx documentation. Currently the world is directed to the documentation on the Sourceforge site, which hasn’t been updated for a long time and is looking somewhat old. Last year, Oliver and Ian (and others) worked on Sphinx-based documentation for cctbx (the last published version of which can be found here: http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_docs/). The question for the cctbx developer community therefore is whether we should move over to the Sphinx system for cctbx documentation. The benefits are: a more consistent and modern interface, and automated documentation generation from source code header file information. As part of making this move we would need to integrate some of the additional information from the original cctbx site into the Sphinx documentation. We would also move the hosting of the cctbx documentation to the CCI web server in Berkeley (and off the Sourceforge site). Another email related to that topic soon. I’d appreciate any feedback on this topic. Cheers, Paul -- Paul Adams Interim Division Director, Molecular Biophysics & Integrated Bioimaging, Lawrence Berkeley Lab Division Deputy for Biosciences, Advanced Light Source, Lawrence Berkeley Lab Adjunct Professor, Department of Bioengineering, U.C. Berkeley Vice President for Technology, the Joint BioEnergy Institute Laboratory Research Manager, ENIGMA Science Focus Area Building 33, Room 347 Building 80, Room 247 Building 978, Room 4126 Tel: 1-510-486-4225, Fax: 1-510-486-5909 http://cci.lbl.gov/paul Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory 1 Cyclotron Road BLDG 33R0345 Berkeley, CA 94720, USA. Executive Assistant: Louise Benvenue [ LBenvenue(a)lbl.gov ][ 1-510-495-2506 ] --

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cctbx and Github
by Paul Adams 12 Oct '15

12 Oct '15

Dear Colleagues, there has been some discussion in this bulletin board about moving the cctbx repository from Sourceforge to Github. We are seriously considering this option, especially in light of the Sourgeforge outage earlier in the year. One concern is what impact this will have on the cctbx developer community - which goes beyond Phenix and DIALS. We’d appreciate any feedback about this proposed move. Note that this will take some time to orchestrate and will involve contacting any known users of the cctbx package to inform them of the change. Cheers, Paul -- Paul Adams Interim Division Director, Molecular Biophysics & Integrated Bioimaging, Lawrence Berkeley Lab Division Deputy for Biosciences, Advanced Light Source, Lawrence Berkeley Lab Adjunct Professor, Department of Bioengineering, U.C. Berkeley Vice President for Technology, the Joint BioEnergy Institute Laboratory Research Manager, ENIGMA Science Focus Area Building 33, Room 347 Building 80, Room 247 Building 978, Room 4126 Tel: 1-510-486-4225, Fax: 1-510-486-5909 http://cci.lbl.gov/paul Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory 1 Cyclotron Road BLDG 33R0345 Berkeley, CA 94720, USA. Executive Assistant: Louise Benvenue [ LBenvenue(a)lbl.gov ][ 1-510-495-2506 ] --

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CentOS7 - fixed
by markus.gerstel＠diamond.ac.uk 30 Sep '15

30 Sep '15

Thanks for your suggestions. They did not do the trick though. Some more detective work got me down to ../base/bin/python ../modules/cctbx_project/libtbx/configure.py dials failing and both libtbx.python ../modules/cctbx_project/libtbx/configure.py dials and LD_LIBRARY_PATH=lib ../base/bin/python ../modules/cctbx_project/libtbx/configure.py dials succeeding. A run with LD_DEBUG=files identified the problem: /lib64/libboost_python.so: error: symbol lookup error: undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_FromEncodedObject (fatal) CentOS7 comes with its own set of incompatible boost libraries. I've put a fix in: http://sourceforge.net/p/cctbx/code/22986/ Installation on CentOS7 now works for me. As far as I could tell this does not break other things. -Markus ________________________________ From: cctbxbb-bounces(a)phenix-online.org [cctbxbb-bounces(a)phenix-online.org] on behalf of Nigel Moriarty [nwmoriarty(a)lbl.gov] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 18:36 To: cctbx mailing list Subject: Re: [cctbxbb] CentOS7 bugs (cont.) libtbx.configure --scan-boost phenix Cheers Nigel --- Nigel W. Moriarty Building 33R0349, Physical Biosciences Division Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Berkeley, CA 94720-8235 Phone : 510-486-5709 Email : NWMoriarty(a)LBL.gov Fax : 510-486-5909 Web : CCI.LBL.gov<http://CCI.LBL.gov> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Nicholas Sauter <nksauter(a)lbl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Nigel, Do remember how to force libtbx.scons to scan the boost directory? Nick On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Nigel Moriarty <nwmoriarty(a)lbl.gov<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Markus The default usage of libtbx.scons in the build directory does not scan the boost directory so maybe that has something to do with the .so not behaving on Centos7 - because it was built on Centos5/6? Cheers Nigel --- Nigel W. Moriarty Building 33R0349, Physical Biosciences Division Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Berkeley, CA 94720-8235 Phone : 510-486-5709<tel:510-486-5709> Email : NWMoriarty(a)LBL.gov Fax : 510-486-5909<tel:510-486-5909> Web : CCI.LBL.gov<http://CCI.LBL.gov> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:29 AM, <markus.gerstel(a)diamond.ac.uk<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hello cctbx folks, We are having problems running, building and/or installing DIALS on CentOS7. Running the linux installer unceremoniously ends in a segfault. The installer is even broken when it is build on the same system using bootstrapped cctbx/dials. The broken installer can be traced to the DIALS extension loader, which uses python’s pkgutil loader, which triggers some library scanning routine within python, which in turn falls over boost_python_meta_ext.so and dies with the strace shown in the email below. The installer can be successfully “fixed” by deleting build/lib/boost_python_meta_ext.so during the installation. So I see two issues here: 1. What is broken with build/lib/boost_python_meta_ext.so that it causes segfaults on CentOS7? 2. Why is this not covered by any test? Neither of the following caught anything: a. python bootstrap.py builder=dials tests b. libtbx.run_tests_parallel module=cctbx module=dials module=boost_adaptbx [NB: The previously reported 3 broken tests on CentOS7 are red herrings and are all fixed by running ‘yum update’] I don’t know how to proceed from here. -Markus From: markus.gerstel(a)diamond.ac.uk<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: 29 September 2015 13:29 To: dials-support(a)lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Dials-support] CentOS7 bugs (cont.) Hello everyone, (..) Sorry, I hit ctrl+enter by accident… In addition to these failed tests the installer dies a boost-related death according to strace: (..) poll([{fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=15, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 2, 4294967295) = 1 ([{fd=13, revents=POLLIN}]) read(13, "\tlinux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fff"..., 4096) = 486 --- SIGCHLD {si_signo=SIGCHLD, si_code=CLD_EXITED, si_pid=7648, si_status=0, si_utime=0, si_stime=0} --- poll([{fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=15, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 2, 4294967295) = 2 ([{fd=13, revents=POLLHUP}, {fd=15, revents=POLLHUP}]) close(13) = 0 close(15) = 0 wait4(7648, [{WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0}], 0, NULL) = 7648 stat("$prefix/dials-dev20150928/build/lib/boost_python_meta_ext", 0x7fff6421d3f0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("$prefix/dials-dev20150928/build/lib/boost_python_meta_ext.so", O_RDONLY) = 11 fstat(11, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0775, st_size=200624, ...}) = 0 --- SIGSEGV {si_signo=SIGSEGV, si_code=SEGV_MAPERR, si_addr=0x18a86} --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV (core dumped) +++ Segmentation fault (core dumped) Not sure if relevant, but CentOS7 compiler is GCC 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-9) compared to RHEL6 GCC 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-11) Anybody have any ideas? -Markus -- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. 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Re: [cctbxbb] CentOS7 bugs (cont.)
by markus.gerstel＠diamond.ac.uk 30 Sep '15

30 Sep '15

Hello cctbx folks, We are having problems running, building and/or installing DIALS on CentOS7. Running the linux installer unceremoniously ends in a segfault. The installer is even broken when it is build on the same system using bootstrapped cctbx/dials. The broken installer can be traced to the DIALS extension loader, which uses python's pkgutil loader, which triggers some library scanning routine within python, which in turn falls over boost_python_meta_ext.so and dies with the strace shown in the email below. The installer can be successfully "fixed" by deleting build/lib/boost_python_meta_ext.so during the installation. So I see two issues here: 1. What is broken with build/lib/boost_python_meta_ext.so that it causes segfaults on CentOS7? 2. Why is this not covered by any test? Neither of the following caught anything: a. python bootstrap.py builder=dials tests b. libtbx.run_tests_parallel module=cctbx module=dials module=boost_adaptbx [NB: The previously reported 3 broken tests on CentOS7 are red herrings and are all fixed by running 'yum update'] I don't know how to proceed from here. -Markus From: markus.gerstel(a)diamond.ac.uk [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 29 September 2015 13:29 To: dials-support(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dials-support] CentOS7 bugs (cont.) Hello everyone, (..) Sorry, I hit ctrl+enter by accident... In addition to these failed tests the installer dies a boost-related death according to strace: (..) poll([{fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=15, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 2, 4294967295) = 1 ([{fd=13, revents=POLLIN}]) read(13, "\tlinux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fff"..., 4096) = 486 --- SIGCHLD {si_signo=SIGCHLD, si_code=CLD_EXITED, si_pid=7648, si_status=0, si_utime=0, si_stime=0} --- poll([{fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=15, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 2, 4294967295) = 2 ([{fd=13, revents=POLLHUP}, {fd=15, revents=POLLHUP}]) close(13) = 0 close(15) = 0 wait4(7648, [{WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0}], 0, NULL) = 7648 stat("$prefix/dials-dev20150928/build/lib/boost_python_meta_ext", 0x7fff6421d3f0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("$prefix/dials-dev20150928/build/lib/boost_python_meta_ext.so", O_RDONLY) = 11 fstat(11, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0775, st_size=200624, ...}) = 0 --- SIGSEGV {si_signo=SIGSEGV, si_code=SEGV_MAPERR, si_addr=0x18a86} --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV (core dumped) +++ Segmentation fault (core dumped) Not sure if relevant, but CentOS7 compiler is GCC 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-9) compared to RHEL6 GCC 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-11) Anybody have any ideas? -Markus -- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee or an authorised recipient of the addressee please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to the e-mail. Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the message. Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered in England and Wales with its registered office at Diamond House, Harwell Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom

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Phi-Psi Angles
by Nicholas Pearce 22 Sep '15

22 Sep '15

Hi Everyone, Phenomenally stupid question, but is there an easy way to calculate phi-psi angles for a protein using cctbx? And, following on from that, Chi-1, Chi-2 etc angles? I’ve had a poke around, but couldn’t find any obvious (at least to me) way that worked… I presume this must be implemented rigorously somewhere, and I didn’t want to waste time reimplementing the wheel. Thanks, Nick

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Move to github
by Graeme.Winter＠diamond.ac.uk 16 Sep '15

16 Sep '15

Hi Folks A while back we asked about moving cctbx (along with DIALS) to github; postponement was asked until Phenix release is out. Phenix release is out. How do people feel about this? Enthusiastic endorsement of this project from DIALS-East & xia2 developer camps. Latter has already migrated… Go? No go? Thanks Graeme -- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee or an authorised recipient of the addressee please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to the e-mail. Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the message. Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered in England and Wales with its registered office at Diamond House, Harwell Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom

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Moving to github
by Graeme.Winter＠diamond.ac.uk 08 Sep '15

08 Sep '15

Hi Folks Looks like phenix release has happened… should we begin the conversation about moving cctbx and DIALS over to the happy world of github? Thanks Graeme -- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee or an authorised recipient of the addressee please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to the e-mail. Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the message. Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered in England and Wales with its registered office at Diamond House, Harwell Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom

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