Deliberately starting a new thread My thinking was that this was feedback on why users find it hard getting started on cctbx. I had assumed, incorrectly as it turns out, that on the developer list a wider discussion was appropriate. This was not meant as criticism, rather direct feedback from talking to potential users at diamond. However I sense that it was not welcome so I’ll keep my thoughts to myself. I’m obviously aware of the work Billy and co are doing to help the situation with conda, but I’m not aware of the longer term intentions for this. Anyhow, sorry for interfering Best wishes Graeme -- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee or an authorised recipient of the addressee please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to the e-mail. Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the message. Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered in England and Wales with its registered office at Diamond House, Harwell Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom