Hi All, Possibly of relevance herein - https://conda-forge.org/docs/user/announcements.html#dropping-python-3-7 "Conda-Forge has been providing support for Python 3.7 for 4 years now. Increasingly projects are moving off it (particularly in the PyData community). With Python 3.11’s release coming around the corner (October 3rd), conda-forge plans to drop Python 3.7 support when Python 3.11 comes out. This will lighten the load on conda-forge infrastructure and make room for the new versions the community would like to support.” ISTR PHENIX is pinned on 3.7 right now because of some non-3.8 compatible code? That could become more of a problem Cheerio Graeme -- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee or an authorised recipient of the addressee please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to the e-mail. Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the message. Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered in England and Wales with its registered office at Diamond House, Harwell Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom