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Problem using MOSFLM-integrated MAD data
by Yu Wai Chen 07 Dec '09

07 Dec '09

> > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 15:54:13 -0800 > From: Nathaniel Echols <NEchols(a)lbl.gov> > To: PHENIX user mailing list <phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org> > Subject: Re: [phenixbb] Problem using MOSFLM-integrated MAD data > Message-ID: <7B4AA329-8759-4603-BC26-9FD0A9120FC2(a)lbl.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Dec 4, 2009, at 3:44 PM, Yu Wai Chen wrote: > >> > .... >> > Unable to analyze /home/wai/dbe15_sh/SeM8/phnx/sem8_remo.mtz with xtriage >> > (a total of 3 instances of this) >> > . . . >> > Testing anisotropy in /home/wai/dbe15_sh/SeM8/phnx/sem8_peak.mtz ... >> > Applying overall anisotropic B correction to /home/wai/dbe15_sh/SeM8/phnx/sem8_peak.mtz to yield AutoSol_run_8_/TEMP0/ANISO_sem8_peak.mtz.sca >> > Overall B set to minimum of the trace of B values >> > Unable to get range of aniso B from xtriage output >> > Multiple equally suitable arrays of observed xray data found. >> > >> > wavelength { >> > data = sem8_peak.mtz >> > labels = "I, SIGI, M_ISYM" >> > } >> > > What happens when you specify the labels as simply "I SIGI"? > > The same errors resulted. Any advise please? Wai -- Yu Wai Chen, PhD........................................Lecturer King's College London, Randall Division +44-207-848-8206 New Hunt's House, Guy's Campus, London SE1 1UL, U.K.

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Re: [phenixbb] P32 twin or p3221?
by lauren 05 Dec '09

05 Dec '09

Hi Peter, Thanks for your reply. >This data can be processed to P3 or P321 with the R-fac almost the same >After that, I used Bales to do the MR, two solutions were found in P32 >(dimmer) and one in P32 21 (monomer) >Then, I refine the structure using phenix.refine in both P32 and P32 21 sets, but the R/Rfree stopped at 0.19/0.25 and never goes down. >However, if I treat the P32 data as a twin (with twin law h,-h-k,-l ), the R/Rfree can down to 0.12/0.18. >Do an R vs R analysis by loading up a model as well in xtriage to get a clue about the extend of the pseudo symmetry. I do the R vs R analysis with P32 in xtriage, but the R value seems very close to zero. And the D_ncs is high (0.95) in resolution range 9.9841-4.2623, which may indicate an incorrect point group? The results are as follow. --------------------------------------------- Analysing possible twin law : h,-h-k,-l --------------------------------------------- mean |H| : 0.018 (0.50: untwinned; 0.0: 50% twinned) mean H^2 : 0.001 (0.33: untwinned; 0.0: 50% twinned) Estimation of twin fraction via mean |H|: 0.482 Estimation of twin fraction via cum. dist. of H: 0.487 Britton analyses Extrapolation performed on 0.47 < alpha < 0.495 Estimated twin fraction: 0.455 Correlation: 0.9777 R vs R statistic: R_abs_twin = <|I1-I2|>/<|I1+I2|> Lebedev, Vagin, Murshudov. Acta Cryst. (2006). D62, 83-95 R_abs_twin observed data : 0.022 R_abs_twin calculated data : 0.090 R_sq_twin = <(I1-I2)^2>/<(I1+I2)^2> R_sq_twin observed data : 0.001 R_sq_twin calculated data : 0.006 Perfoming correlation analyses The supplied calculated data are normalized and artificially twinned Subsequently a correlation with the observed data is computed. Results: Correlation : 0.832594802609 Estimated twin fraction : 0.49 Maximum Likelihood twin fraction determination Zwart, Read, Grosse-Kunstleve & Adams, to be published. The estimated twin fraction is equal to 0.478 Log[likelihood]: 78991.418 twin fraction: 0.443 D_ncs in resolution ranges: 9.9841 -- 4.2623 :: 0.950 4.2623 -- 3.4280 :: 0.694 3.4280 -- 3.0083 :: 0.655 3.0083 -- 2.7394 :: 0.885 2.7394 -- 2.5466 :: 0.853 2.5466 -- 2.3986 :: 0.824 2.3986 -- 2.2800 :: 0.817 The correlation of the calculated F^2 should be similar to the estimated values. Observed correlation between twin related, untwinned calculated F^2 in resolutiuon ranges, as well as ewstimates D_ncs^2 values: Bin d_max d_min CC_obs D_ncs^2 1) 9.9841 -- 4.2623 :: 0.981 0.902 2) 4.2623 -- 3.4280 :: 0.970 0.482 3) 3.4280 -- 3.0083 :: 0.958 0.429 4) 3.0083 -- 2.7394 :: 0.954 0.783 5) 2.7394 -- 2.5466 :: 0.964 0.728 6) 2.5466 -- 2.3986 :: 0.953 0.679 7) 2.3986 -- 2.2800 :: 0.963 0.667 Best Regards, Lauren

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Re: [phenixbb] Phenix installation issue
by smoniot＠chemie.fu-berlin.de 05 Dec '09

05 Dec '09

Well, I've dowloaded the installer again and changed my use of tar from -xvf to -xf option. Then reran the installation It went through and everything seems to work now. The only thing is that i'm normally running bash shell and that phenix doesn't work so. sourcing the phenix_env does not work under bash (setenv) Did I miss something or switching to tcsh is necessary ? Thanks for your help installing Seb > just a thought: > > if /net/anaconda is an nfs-shared drive, and you are trying to sudo > something on it from another workstation, it will fail because sudo > grants administrative privileges on the workstation, not on the server > where drive is housed. > > On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 04:59 +0100, smoniot at chemie.fu-berlin.de wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install phenix on my computer (Linux distribution Kubuntu 64 > bits (virtual machine but it should not be an issue)) but the installation > failed after some minutes ... > the last lines on the installation log file are : > > /bin/tar: ./build/intel-linux-2.6-x86_64/base/bin/wx-config : un lien > symbolique ne peut pas être créé vers > «/net/anaconda/scratch1/phenix/phenix-1.5-2/build/intel-linux-2.6-x86_64/base/lib/wx/config/gtk2-ansi-release-2.8»: > Opération non permise > > It's in french but basiccaly it can't create a symbolic link to > /net/anaconda.... not allowed. > > I don't get it since I did try both the sudo ./install command and the su > - root. > > If anyone experienced this and get to fix it I would be glad to know :) > > Thanks in advance > > Sebastien > _______________________________________________ > phenixbb mailing list > phenixbb at phenix-online.org > http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb

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Problem using MOSFLM-integrated MAD data
by Yu Wai Chen 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

Dear All, I am trying to use a set of MAD data integrated with MOSFLM in phenix. But when I ran autosol, I've got the following error in the log file: .... Unable to analyze /home/wai/dbe15_sh/SeM8/phnx/sem8_remo.mtz with xtriage (a total of 3 instances of this) ... AutoSol_setup_for_scaling AutoSol Run 8 Fri Dec 4 23:18:59 2009 Shifting to Automatic mode.... RESOLUTION 2.5 SOLVENT_FRACTION 0.54 RESIDUES 364 MAD-N-HA 14 NCS-COPIES 2 Setting up for scaling dataset resolution: 2.5 solvent_fraction: 0.54 Scoring criteria will be: ['SKEW', 'CORR_RMS'] Scoring method will be: BAYES-CC AutoSol_scale_and_analyze_mad AutoSol Run 8 Fri Dec 4 23:18:59 2009 scale_and_analyze_mad for dataset 1 file type :ccp4_unmerged ccp4_unmerged merge type :unmerged Testing anisotropy in /home/wai/dbe15_sh/SeM8/phnx/sem8_peak.mtz ... Applying overall anisotropic B correction to /home/wai/dbe15_sh/SeM8/phnx/sem8_peak.mtz to yield AutoSol_run_8_/TEMP0/ANISO_sem8_peak.mtz.sca Overall B set to minimum of the trace of B values Unable to get range of aniso B from xtriage output Multiple equally suitable arrays of observed xray data found. ******************************************************************************** Failed to carry out AutoSol_scale_and_analyze_mad: Sorry, there is something wrong with the file /home/wai/dbe15_sh/SeM8/phnx/sem8_peak.mtz ... xtriage cannot analyze it? ******************************************************************************** THIS IS MY parameters input to phenix.autosol: autosol { seq_file = dbe15.seq sites = 14 atom_type = Se crystal_info { resolution = 2.5 space_group = P212121 } wavelength { data = sem8_peak.mtz labels = "I, SIGI, M_ISYM" lambda = 0.9794 f_prime = -7.83 f_double_prime = 5.97 } wavelength { data = sem8_edge.mtz labels = "I, SIGI, M_ISYM" lambda = 0.9796 f_prime = -9.72 f_double_prime = 3.08 } wavelength { data = sem8_remo.mtz labels = "I, SIGI, M_ISYM" lambda = 09719 f_prime = -4.11 f_double_prime = 3.85 } } Can some guru help me? I can send the mtz file if needed. -- Yu Wai Chen, PhD........................................Lecturer King's College London, Randall Division +44-207-848-8206 New Hunt's House, Guy's Campus, London SE1 1UL, U.K.

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Phenix installation issue
by smoniot＠chemie.fu-berlin.de 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

Hi, I'm trying to install phenix on my computer (Linux distribution Kubuntu 64 bits (virtual machine but it should not be an issue)) but the installation failed after some minutes ... the last lines on the installation log file are : /bin/tar: ./build/intel-linux-2.6-x86_64/base/bin/wx-config : un lien symbolique ne peut pas être créé vers «/net/anaconda/scratch1/phenix/phenix-1.5-2/build/intel-linux-2.6-x86_64/base/lib/wx/config/gtk2-ansi-release-2.8»: Opération non permise It's in french but basiccaly it can't create a symbolic link to /net/anaconda.... not allowed. I don't get it since I did try both the sudo ./install command and the su - root. If anyone experienced this and get to fix it I would be glad to know :) Thanks in advance Sebastien

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(no subject)
by John Pascal 03 Dec '09

03 Dec '09

Hello, I am looking for advice on how to best refine the structure of a complex that has one component that can adopt two completely different conformations (a DNA duplex). I can model both conformations and set occupancies to 0.5, and try to constrain_group their occupancies, but in phenix.refine the two conformations are interpreted as major clashes. Thanks. Best, John -- John Pascal, PhD ph 215.503.4596 Assistant Professor fx 215.923.2117 Thomas Jefferson University Biochemistry & Molecular Biology 233 South 10th Street, BLSB 804 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19107 ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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P32 twin or p3221?
by lauren 03 Dec '09

03 Dec '09

Hi everyone, I have a dimmer protein diffract to 1.6 A resolution. After processing the data, the Linear R-fac was 0.26/0.038 (last/all), the data quality seems good. This data can be processed to P3 or P321 with the R-fac almost the same After that, I used Bales to do the MR, two solutions were found in P32 (dimmer) and one in P32 21 (monomer) Then, I refine the structure using phenix.refine in both P32 and P32 21 sets, but the R/Rfree stopped at 0.19/0.25 and never goes down. Rfree 25% seems a little bit too high for a 1.6 resolution data. However, if I treat the P32 data as a twin (with twin law h,-h-k,-l ), the R/Rfree can down to 0.12/0.18. I use P3 to run the phenix.xtriage (see bellows), it looks like the L-test says it is not a twin data. So, I am wondering is it a twin data or not? The results are as follow. "Twinning and intensity statistics summary (acentric data): --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Statistics independent of twin laws - <I^2>/<I>^2 : 2.105 - <F>^2/<F^2> : 0.773 - <|E^2-1|> : 0.757 - <|L|>, <L^2>: 0.508, 0.344 Multivariate Z score L-test: 2.013 Statistics depending on twin laws ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Operator | type | R obs. | Britton alpha | H alpha | ML alpha | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | -h,-k,l | M | 0.484 | -0.003 | 0.022 | 0.022 | | h,-h-k,-l | M | 0.026 | 0.454 | 0.479 | 0.478 | | -k,-h,-l | M | 0.507 | -0.004 | 0.026 | 0.022 | ------------------------------------------------------------------ Patterson analyses - Largest peak height : 8.386 (corresponding p value : 0.29163) The largest off-origin peak in the Patterson function is 8.39% of the height of the origin peak. No significant pseudotranslation is detected. The results of the L-test indicate that the intensity statistics behave as expected. No twinning is suspected. Even though no twinning is suspected, it might be worthwhile carrying out a refinement using a dedicated twin target anyway, as twinned structures with low twin fractions are difficult to distinguish from non-twinned structures. The correlation between the intensities related by the twin law h,-h-k,-l with an estimated twin fraction of 0.45 % is most likely due to an NCS axis parallel to the twin axis. This can be verified by supplying calculated data as well." Thanks! Lauren

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High B Factors
by Miles Pufall 03 Dec '09

03 Dec '09

Hello All - I am working on a kinase:inhibitor complex with some interesting properties. First, it is a long, thin unit cell (45x45x300) that has highly anisotropic B-factors (60 in two dimensions and 35 in the other according to xtriage). We had a fair amount of trouble collecting data for these complexes due to somewhat high mosaicity (1.5) and overlap trouble, mostly due to the long unit cell. As a result, although we get diffraction out to ~2.3 A with good signal (I/sigma of 3), the completeness is only OK - dropping off from a high of 95% around 3.5 A pretty much linearly to 75% at 2.3. As a result, the maps look only OK for 2.3A data, but clearly show the interactions between the inhibitor and the kinase that we are looking to define. In that sense, the experiment worked just fine. That said, the structure looks pretty good, although about 1/3 shows poor density for sidechains, which I wouldn't expect at this resolution. But as I put the finishing touches on the structure a couple of things have worried me - first, there is consistently a larger than average gap between R and Rfree (Typically in the R~22 and Rfree~29). This, according to Polygon, is within the range of reported structures, so I think that's OK. What is odd is that despite having an average B caluclated from the reflection of ~50, the average B after refinement is ~80, which is very much on the high end of what has been reported. I have played around a lot with the wxc/wxu balance, and although this can change the Rs and tends to tighten the geometry perhaps inappropriately (rms bond ~0.003, rms angle ~0.7), the B factors stay very high. My question is, should I worry about this? And if so, what can you recommend trying. As usual, I'm happy to provide data if it help elucidate the problem. Thanks in advance - M Miles Pufall Postdoctoral Scholar Yamamoto Lab UC San Francisco Cellular and Molecular Pharmacology Mail Stop 2280 600 16th Street, Genentech Hall S-574 San Francisco, California 94158-2517 (415)476-4480

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Atom Selection for Conformers
by John Pascal 02 Dec '09

02 Dec '09

Hello, What is the syntax for selecting one conformer of a residue? for example, if there are two arginine alternate conformations labeled A and B, how do you select just one of them. Thanks. Best Regards, John -- John Pascal, PhD ph 215.503.4596 Assistant Professor fx 215.923.2117 Thomas Jefferson University Biochemistry & Molecular Biology 233 South 10th Street, BLSB 804 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19107 ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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phenix server upgrade
by Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve 01 Dec '09

01 Dec '09

Over the weekend we've moved the phenix web server and mailing list to new hardware. If you notice any problems with the web content, the downloads, or the mailing list, please let us know. Ralf

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