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RFZ is higher than TFZ
by 周文昌 12 Jul '12

12 Jul '12

Dear all, I had one problem using phaser-MR to solve my structure. Phaser-MR gives me one solution with TFZ=15.4 and LLG=165 which seems to be promising but phenix.refine does not give me a low R values (0.4884/0.5424). I went back and checked the solution from phaser-MR, I found RFZ=18.8, higher than TFZ. Does anyone think this is a problem to solve my structure? The space group is C121, I believe there are 4 copies of my search model in ASU. thanks, Wenchang

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sigma_iobs_rejection_criterion
by Yarrow Madrona 10 Jul '12

10 Jul '12

Hello, I am refining a structure using a.eff file that I generated in Phenix version 1.7 GUI and later ran in the command line. When I try to run the same refinement in Phenix V.1.8 I get the following error: For French and Wilson scaling, sigma_iobs_rejection_criterion must be set between -4.0 and -1.0 I see that it was set to zero previously. My questions are: 1. Is this the same observed criterion that is reported in the RCSB Deposition? 2. To be honest I don't understand what this is. Is it a limit for the error in Iobs, below which the reflection will be discarded? 3. What is a reasonable setting for this input and how does it change the refinement? Thank you (I appreciate your help as I know these may be very basic questions). -Yarrow -- Yarrow Madrona Graduate Student Molecular Biology and Biochemistry Dept. University of California, Irvine Natural Sciences I, Rm 2403 Irvine, CA 92697

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Phenix autosol error 2L MAD
by Graeme Winter 10 Jul '12

10 Jul '12

Hi Folks, 2L MAD data set where SHELXC/D/E works fine I (repeatedly) get this error, through GUI or scripts... resolution: 1.7 recommended_resolution: 1.9 datafile_for_hyss: /Users/graeme/projects/test/12287_build/AutoSol_run_10_/TEMP0/ANISO_subset_PHX_I(+)_WAVE1.sca_ano_1.sca aniso_corrected: True aniso_b_min: 13.2 aniso_range_of_b: 6.8 RUNNING HYSS on ANISO_subset_PHX_I(+)_WAVE1.sca_ano_1.sca from PDS as miller arrays *************ERROR ENDING ******************* ******************************************************************************** Failed to carry out AutoSol_hyss: HYSS failed...Probably no iso or ano differences... ******************************************************************************** *************ERROR ENDING ******************* The data set works fine with a third (radiation damaged) data set. There is also a massive anomalous signal in the data (2L) as it stands. here's the PHIL: autosol { seq_file = 12287.seq sites = 8 atom_type = Se crystal_info { unit_cell = 51.59 51.59 157.69 90 90 90 space_group = "P 43 21 2" solvent_fraction = 0.52 chain_type = PROTEIN resolution = 0 change_sg = True } wavelength { data = subset.mtz lambda = 0.97966 f_prime = -9.9 f_double_prime = 3.9 labels = 'I(+)_WAVE1 SIGI(+)_WAVE1 I(-)_WAVE1 SIGI(-)_WAVE1' } wavelength { data = subset.mtz lambda = 1.00000 f_prime = -3.3 f_double_prime = 0.5 labels = 'I(+)_WAVE2 SIGI(+)_WAVE2 I(-)_WAVE2 SIGI(-)_WAVE2' } } Have I done something wrong? Thanks, Graeme

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special position
by Karolina Michalska 09 Jul '12

09 Jul '12

Hi all, I'm refining a structure with a phosphate ion on a 3-fold axis. I set occupancy manually to 0.33 and after refinement the ion has huge B-factor (close to 100) and there is a lot of positive electron density. I found somewhere that phenix recognizes special positions and there is not need to adjust occupancy manually. so I set it to 1 again and re-refined. This time my phosphate sits in a mixture of negative and positive density with B factor around 90 (for comparison Refmac refines it to ~20). Now I'm confused which procedure to follow. Karolina

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I/O error in writing very large B-factors
by Phil Jeffrey 09 Jul '12

09 Jul '12

This occurs at the end of refinement. Quite why it's trying to *read* from a string with Fortran-esque overflow formatting while in a writing step I don't know, but the PDB file gets truncated at REMARK IF THIS FILE IS FOR PDB DEPOSITION: REMOVE ALL FROM THIS LINE UP. The structure is not idyllic, clearly, but I'd like to see the extent of the problem rather than just the first atom. Got to be pretty easy to trap for and map to 999.99 either on the way in or out. Writing refined structure to PDB file: /Users/phil/Structures/reference_models/start_refine_001.pdb n_use = 21264 n_use_u_iso = 21264 n_use_u_aniso = 0 n_grad_site = 0 n_grad_u_iso = 21264 n_grad_u_aniso = 0 n_grad_occupancy = 0 n_grad_fp = 0 n_grad_fdp = 0 total number of scatterers = 21264 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.3-928/build/mac-intel-osx/../../phenix/phenix/command_line/refine.py", line 11, in <module> command_line.run(command_name="phenix.refine", args=sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.3-928/phenix/phenix/refinement/command_line.py", line 105, in run refine_object.write_refined_pdb(f_pdb) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.3-928/phenix/phenix/refinement/driver.py", line 1379, in write_refined_pdb ignore_hd = not self.neutron_refinement) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.3-928/cctbx_project/mmtbx/model_statistics.py", line 589, in __init__ ignore_hd = ignore_hd) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.3-928/cctbx_project/mmtbx/model_statistics.py", line 504, in __init__ molprobity_scores=True) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.3-928/cctbx_project/mmtbx/model.py", line 1063, in geometry_statistics molprobity_scores = molprobity_scores) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.3-928/cctbx_project/mmtbx/model_statistics.py", line 112, in __init__ self.clashscore_obj.analyze_clashes(hierarchy = pdb_hierarchy) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.3-928/cctbx_project/mmtbx/validation/clashscore.py", line 182, in analyze_clashes self.pdb_hierarchy = pdb.hierarchy.input(pdb_string=input_str).hierarchy File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.3-928/cctbx_project/iotbx/pdb/hierarchy.py", line 1044, in __init__ source_info=source_info, lines=flex.split_lines(pdb_string)) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.3-928/cctbx_project/iotbx/pdb/__init__.py", line 582, in input return ext.input(source_info=source_info, lines=lines) ValueError: string, line 5148: ATOM 17 N ILE A 268 -16.878 -22.262 49.415 1.00****** A N ------------------------------------------------------------^ not a floating-point number. Phil Jeffrey Princeton

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Iridium hexamine problems with eLBOW
by Benoît Masquida 07 Jul '12

07 Jul '12

I experience problems generating a correct CIF file for iridium hexamine (IRI in the eLBOW database). The geometry is supposed to be octahedral and eLBOW outputs a prism regardless of the options checked in the GUI. eLBOW actually does the same for the octahedral Mg(OH2)6. Does someone know how to rule this out? Thanks to everybody. Ben -- Benoît Masquida Chargé de Recherche CNRS IBMC Strasbourg UPR 9002 ARN b.masquida(a)ibmc-cnrs.unistra.fr +33 (0)3 88 41 70 45 +33 (0)6 70 23 79 50 +33(0)3 88 60 22 18 (fax)

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Subject: no kidding - we need small crystals!
by jens j birktoft 05 Jul '12

05 Jul '12

Hi everybody, Any suggestions regarding how to generate small!! crystals? Yes, in this case that is what we want While we can generate crystals of size 100-500 microns, this time we something in the range of .5-5 microns. Any ideas and suggestions would be greatly appreciated, Cheers Jens

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ask refinement question including an aligo as the ligand
by crystallogrphy 05 Jul '12

05 Jul '12

Hi, I want to refine my structure including a sugar oligomer as the ligand in Phenix GUI. I first put each subunit into the density and merge them together as the oligomer in Coot. Then I merged the oligomer coordinates to the protein file. Then I run phenix.elbow to get the cif file. Finally, I run phenix.refine. However, the oligomer units were pushed away from each other. I guess I need to modify the cif file to link the oligo units together. Does anyone know how I can I do it? thanks!

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Re: [phenixbb] phenixbb Digest, Vol 80, Issue 1
by Matthew J. Whitley 05 Jul '12

05 Jul '12

Hello, One simple thing that might be the problem: As I'm sure you know, oligosaccharides are formed via intermolecular dehydration reactions. If I understand you correctly, you built the oligosaccharide by loading the component monomers into the density in Coot and then joined them together. Whenever two sugars are joined together, three atoms are given off as a water molecule. Did you actually delete the appropriate oxygen and two hydrogens from your coordinates for each glycosidic linkage in your structure? If you didn't, then it doesn't matter whether you told Coot or Phenix that the monomers or linked, you'll still have atoms trying to occupy the same space and thus the refinement will blow them apart. Not that I have EVER made that mistake myself . . . Similar topics have come up on the Phenix BB before. For other possibly useful information, see: http://phenix-online.org/pipermail/phenixbb/2012-April/018390.html http://www.phenix-online.org/pipermail/phenixbb/2009-October/013951.html Good luck! Matthew --- Matthew J. Whitley, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Research Fellow Angela Gronenborn Lab Department of Structural Biology University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine On Wed, July 4, 2012 7:55 pm, phenixbb-request(a)phenix-online.org wrote: > > > Message: 14 > Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 15:28:09 -0400 > From: crystallogrphy <qunwan1(a)gmail.com> > To: PHENIX user mailing list <phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org> > Subject: [phenixbb] ask refinement question including an aligo as the > ligand > Message-ID: > <CANcEHNi95ss+Tst8+8JVTK3=B598HjC_NNg5N7_=6-whdMTXpQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > > I want to refine my structure including a sugar oligomer as the ligand in > Phenix GUI. > > I first put each subunit into the density and merge them together as the > oligomer in Coot. Then I merged the oligomer coordinates to the protein > file. Then I run phenix.elbow to get the cif file. Finally, I run > phenix.refine. However, the oligomer units were pushed away from each > other. I guess I need to modify the cif file to link the oligo units > together. Does anyone know how I can I do it? > > thanks!

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need subscription
by Afshan Begum 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

Dear Sir I have subscribe successfully to the phenixbb but i have not receive or involved in the discussion board could you kindly help ? Best Regards AFSHAN

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