November 2014 - phenixbb - phenix-online.org

Different space group of coordinate and structure factors
by Singh, Bishal 25 Nov '14

25 Nov '14

Hello everybody, For a data-set, the space group after data-processing was P4222. When I performed molecular replacement through PHASER in phenix keeping the search option 'All possible in same point group", the space group changed to P41212. Now the question is that shall I process the data again in this new space group or should I move on for refinement? Please suggest me your opinion. With regards, Bishal Singh PhD Student DKFZ, University of Heidelberg, Germany

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explicit solvent in low resolution refinement
by Guenter Fritz 25 Nov '14

25 Nov '14

Dear all, we have determined the structure of a protein complex at 3.5 A resolution as well as the structures of three subunits of this complex independently at resolutions better than 2 A. I had used the models of the subunits as reference models in refinement, perfect. Now I was wondering whether one could use explicit solvent positions (e.g. inner shell water molecules) from the high resolution structures in the low resolution refinement. This should be superior to a simple bulk solvent model. I placed the inner shell water molecules from the high res structures into the low res model and added harmonic restraints to the water positions in low res refinement. I see a decrease of about 0.5% in Rwork and Rfree versus the model without water molecules. However, adding harmonic restraints excludes the option to use the reference models in refinement. Is it possible to use protein and water atoms from the reference models to generate restraints for the low resolution refinement? Thank you, Guenter

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ready set and H/D addition on waters
by Maxime Cuypers 24 Nov '14

24 Nov '14

hello, after not using phenix for a while, i just realised the new versions do not include the option in ready_set gui to add H or D atoms to waters in the pdb models (and only to the waters without altering the rest of the model would be nice). of course it can be done on the command line but why has it been removed? it is a very neutron crystallographer friendly option don t you think? cheerios, -- Dr. Maxime Cuypers

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Rwork > Rfree
by Singh, Bishal 21 Nov '14

21 Nov '14

Hello everybody, While depositing a structure in PDB, I observed that Rwork was more than Rfree in the highest resolution shell and in a few more shells as well. I shall be delighted if somebody can suggest me the reasons and also what should I do now. With regards, Bishal PhD student, DKFZ, University of Heidelberg, Germany

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MRage against local "select" PDB database on commandline
by Kaushik Hatti 21 Nov '14

21 Nov '14

Hi, I am new to Phenix. Sorry if my question is naive. For a given mtz file, I want to pick templates from a local PDB database (its actually iTasser template library) and perform Molecular Replacement using MRage. I have already installed Blast, downloaded iTasser PDB library (http://zhanglab.ccmb.med.umich.edu/library/PDB.tar.bz2) and extracted sequences from both the downloaded PDB template library set and target protein for which mtz is available. How should I go about building pipeline to perform MR using templates from locally downloaded select PDB database? Are there any more parameters available for parameter name: services under scop: search other than "local" and "ncbi"? Thanks in advance, Kaushik -- People living deeply have no fear of death - Anais Nin Caution: I am still the dumbest person I have ever known :-)

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Submissions for Comput. Cryst. Newsletter
by Nigel Moriarty 20 Nov '14

20 Nov '14

Folks Calling for articles and short communications of interest to structural biologists. The deadline for submission in the January 2015 issue is 17 December 2014 (with some leeway if you are still working on the text, especially as it can be polished over the break). The Computational Crystallography Newsletter (CCN) is an electronic newsletter for structural biologists, and is published online every 6 months. Feature articles, meeting announcements and reports can be submitted to me at any time for consideration. Submission of text by email or word-processing files using the CCN templates is requested. Past newsletters and a Microsoft Word template are available at www.phenix-online.org/newsletter. Cheers Nigel --- Nigel W. Moriarty Building 64R0246B, Physical Biosciences Division Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Berkeley, CA 94720-8235 Phone : 510-486-5709 Email : NWMoriarty(a)LBL.gov Fax : 510-486-5909 Web : CCI.LBL.gov

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Re: [phenixbb] Rwork > Rfree
by Ed Pozharski 20 Nov '14

20 Nov '14

Generate a different test set and repeat refinement. Do it twenty times. If R turns out to be systematically higher than Rfree even in few resolution shells, you have an interesting case worth looking at. If not, it's just noise. Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® III <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "Singh, Bishal" <b.singh(a)dkfz-heidelberg.de> </div><div>Date:11/20/2014 9:52 AM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org </div><div>Subject: [phenixbb] Rwork > Rfree </div><div> </div>Hello everybody, While depositing a structure in PDB, I observed that Rwork was more than Rfree in the highest resolution shell and in a few more shells as well. I shall be delighted if somebody can suggest me the reasons and also what should I do now. With regards, Bishal PhD student, DKFZ, University of Heidelberg, Germany _______________________________________________ phenixbb mailing list phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb

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GeoStd: was definition of glycosylation in phenix.refine
by Schubert, Carsten [JRDUS] 18 Nov '14

18 Nov '14

Hi Nigel, could you please comment on any plans to harmonize the use of these restraints for other refinement programs as well. Phenix originally appears to have implemented the restraint dictionaries from CCP4. Right now there seems to be some kind of parallel development going on with the dictionaries being in sync to some degree. Is there a plan to move to a unified restraints distribution at some point? Thanks Carsten From: phenixbb-bounces(a)phenix-online.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nigel Moriarty Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:38 PM Cc: PHENIX user mailing list Subject: Re: [phenixbb] definition of glycosylation in phenix.refine @Laurent Engin advice is sound but you are having trouble free feel to send me the inputs directly. NB. Any files sent to me will be held in strictest confidence. @Engin I think you will find what you are looking for in the GeoStd. As restraints are improved, they are moved from $PHENIX/chem_data/mon_lib to $PHENIX/chem_data/geostd (which is hosted on SourceForge for anybody's use). The directory structure is the same as the Monomer Library with a geostd_list.cif file corresponding to mon_lib_list.cif which specifies the links. Cheers Nigel --- Nigel W. Moriarty Building 64R0246B, Physical Biosciences Division Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Berkeley, CA 94720-8235 Phone : 510-486-5709 Email : NWMoriarty(a)LBL.gov<mailto:[email protected]> Fax : 510-486-5909 Web : CCI.LBL.gov<http://CCI.LBL.gov> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Engin Özkan <eozkan(a)uchicago.edu<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Laurent, If I am reading the error message right, you did not delete the hydrogens that get removed upon bond formation. That's what it is complaining about. I always thought Phenix probably removed these atoms (the hydroxyl and the hydrogen) automatically when you defined the link, but never tested if it really does it. I also usually remove all hydrogens right away when sugar residues are inserted. Finally, I will recommend that you use automatic linking in the phenix.refine GUI. It works great (I am on the latest nightly, dev-1839; you may need to upgrade). No need to define pesky links anymore. Thank you developers! At the risk of hijacking the thread, I could not find in my installation the cif files for N-linked sugars. Have they been moved elsewhere? Hope this helps, Engin On 11/18/14 10:02 AM, Laurent Maveyraud wrote: Hi, I am currently refining a structure of a glycosylated protein, but I fail to define the appropriate links... The glycosylatin is Asn638-NAG1061-(beta1-4)-NAG1062-(beta1-4)-BMA1063-(ALPHA1-3)-MAN1064 This is what I add in the eff file : apply_cif_link { data_link = NAG-ASN residue_selection_1 = chain D and resname NAG and resid 1061 residue_selection_2 = chain A and resname ASN and resid 638 } apply_cif_link { data_link = BETA1-4 residue_selection_1 = chain D and resname NAG and resid 1062 residue_selection_2 = chain D and resname NAG and resid 1061 } apply_cif_link { data_link = BETA1-4 residue_selection_1 = chain D and resname BMA and resid 1063 residue_selection_2 = chain D and resname NAG and resid 1062 } apply_cif_link { data_link = ALPHA1-3 residue_selection_1 = chain D and resname MAN and resid 1064 residue_selection_2 = chain D and resname BMA and resid 1063 } this is correctly read in refine: apply_cif_link: data_link: NAG-ASN mod_id_1: DEL-O1 mod_id_2: DEL-HD22 residue_selection_1: chain D and resname NAG and resid 1061 residue_selection_2: chain A and resname ASN and resid 638 apply_cif_link: data_link: BETA1-4 mod_id_1: DEL-HO4 mod_id_2: DEL-O1 residue_selection_1: chain D and resname NAG and resid 1062 residue_selection_2: chain D and resname NAG and resid 1061 apply_cif_link: data_link: BETA1-4 mod_id_1: DEL-HO4 mod_id_2: DEL-O1 residue_selection_1: chain D and resname BMA and resid 1063 residue_selection_2: chain D and resname NAG and resid 1062 apply_cif_link: data_link: ALPHA1-3 mod_id_1: DEL-HO3 mod_id_2: DEL-O1 residue_selection_1: chain D and resname MAN and resid 1064 residue_selection_2: chain D and resname BMA and resid 1063 but generates an error : Number of atoms with unknown nonbonded energy type symbols: 5 "HETATM10951 HO4 NAG D1052 .*. H " "HETATM10973 HO4 BMA D1053 .*. H " "HETATM11028 HO4 NAG D1062 .*. H " "HETATM11050 HO4 BMA D1063 .*. H " "HETATM11070 HO3 MAN D1064 .*. H " and the job stops. Any ideas on what if wrong ? thanks for your help Laurent _______________________________________________ phenixbb mailing list phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org<mailto:[email protected]> http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb

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definition of glycosylation in phenix.refine
by Laurent Maveyraud 18 Nov '14

18 Nov '14

Hi, I am currently refining a structure of a glycosylated protein, but I fail to define the appropriate links... The glycosylatin is Asn638-NAG1061-(beta1-4)-NAG1062-(beta1-4)-BMA1063-(ALPHA1-3)-MAN1064 This is what I add in the eff file : apply_cif_link { data_link = NAG-ASN residue_selection_1 = chain D and resname NAG and resid 1061 residue_selection_2 = chain A and resname ASN and resid 638 } apply_cif_link { data_link = BETA1-4 residue_selection_1 = chain D and resname NAG and resid 1062 residue_selection_2 = chain D and resname NAG and resid 1061 } apply_cif_link { data_link = BETA1-4 residue_selection_1 = chain D and resname BMA and resid 1063 residue_selection_2 = chain D and resname NAG and resid 1062 } apply_cif_link { data_link = ALPHA1-3 residue_selection_1 = chain D and resname MAN and resid 1064 residue_selection_2 = chain D and resname BMA and resid 1063 } this is correctly read in refine: apply_cif_link: data_link: NAG-ASN mod_id_1: DEL-O1 mod_id_2: DEL-HD22 residue_selection_1: chain D and resname NAG and resid 1061 residue_selection_2: chain A and resname ASN and resid 638 apply_cif_link: data_link: BETA1-4 mod_id_1: DEL-HO4 mod_id_2: DEL-O1 residue_selection_1: chain D and resname NAG and resid 1062 residue_selection_2: chain D and resname NAG and resid 1061 apply_cif_link: data_link: BETA1-4 mod_id_1: DEL-HO4 mod_id_2: DEL-O1 residue_selection_1: chain D and resname BMA and resid 1063 residue_selection_2: chain D and resname NAG and resid 1062 apply_cif_link: data_link: ALPHA1-3 mod_id_1: DEL-HO3 mod_id_2: DEL-O1 residue_selection_1: chain D and resname MAN and resid 1064 residue_selection_2: chain D and resname BMA and resid 1063 but generates an error : Number of atoms with unknown nonbonded energy type symbols: 5 "HETATM10951 HO4 NAG D1052 .*. H " "HETATM10973 HO4 BMA D1053 .*. H " "HETATM11028 HO4 NAG D1062 .*. H " "HETATM11050 HO4 BMA D1063 .*. H " "HETATM11070 HO3 MAN D1064 .*. H " and the job stops. Any ideas on what if wrong ? thanks for your help Laurent -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Laurent Maveyraud laurent.maveyraud AT ipbs DOT fr P I C T --- Plateforme Intégrée de Criblage de Toulouse Université Paul Sabatier / CNRS / I.P.B.S. UMR 5089 Département Biologie Structurale et Biophysique http://cribligand.ipbs.fr http://www.ipbs.fr 205 route de Narbonne 31077 TOULOUSE Cedex FRANCE Tél: +33 (0)561 175 435 Fax : +33 (0)561 175 994 ----------------------------------------------------------

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mrage with nucleic acids?
by Paul Paukstelis 17 Nov '14

17 Nov '14

I'm trying to run mrage with nucleic acid models. With phaser, it is possible to specify the molecule type, but this option doesn't exist in mrage (from what I can see). Providing a sequence file automatically assumes protein one letter codes. Any suggestion on how to clearly define a sequence file as a nucleic acid? Thanks, --paul

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