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MR problem
by intekhab alam 22 Aug '11

22 Aug '11

Hi there I have a data of heterotrimer protein complex at 2.9A resolution. One protein consists of two domains. I tried phaser as well as molrep which gives a solution with only one domain. Rotation function and translation function were found to be fine for these solutions. I tried to find missing domain of the protein after fixing one of the domain or the other partner proteins using whole part or various truncations of missing domain. I also tried to find and build missing domain using Rosetta with the solutions of Molrep or Phaser as template. But, there were no solutions, or the solutions are clashed with other domain or proteins. Furthermore, R and Rfree is 30 and 40, respectively, and I could not reduce them further. There was almost no electron density map in the empty space so that I could not model manually. Plz guide me ,how can i look for the missing domain in the protein. regards -- INTEKHAB ALAM LABORATORY OF STRUCTURAL BIOINFORMATICS KOREA UNIVERSITY, SEOUL

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matplotlib
by Ed Pozharski 21 Aug '11

21 Aug '11

This is really a rather esoteric issue, but I feel I need to mention this to save someone, depending on the situation, anywhere between five minutes of googling or two hours of hair-pulling. In a nutshell, phenix gui may in some circumstances screw up other programs that use matplotlib. I can't track down which specific phenix gui action causes it, but it's safe to assume that whenever matplotlib libs are used the subsequent calls to logarithmic scale plots (and likely other things) throw this error TypeError: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, dict found The solution is to erase the ~/.matplotlib/fontList.cache. The likely cause is that phinix gui calls on bundled matplotlib which is different from one I have installed (not to mention that I am using Lucid (because it's LTS) which has python 2.6 and not the 2.7 that is bundled with phenix). However, it still writes into the same ~/.matplotlib folder, thus I end up with incompatible data. Certainly, the problem will be gone when matplotlib gets bumped up to 1.0.1 in next Ubuntu release. This is yet another example of why the standalone installation approach is ideologically objectionable on modern Linux. But of course, the practical advantage gained by not having to package the software for any possible OS flavor/version users may choose outweighs the lower risks of package incompatibility and the reduced size of the packaged product. -- Oh, suddenly throwing a giraffe into a volcano to make water is crazy? Julian, King of Lemurs

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formyl-methionine
by Yuri 19 Aug '11

19 Aug '11

Hello Everyone, Stupid question. I see density at my N-terminus that really looks like formyl-Met. I want to model it and refine. I notice REEl has FME ligand for the formyl-methionine, but I dont want to treat it as a "ligand" since it is covalently attached to SER 2. What is the best way to modify the MET residue? Cheers -- Yuri Pompeu

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Definition of "Saenger Class"
by jens j birktoft 19 Aug '11

19 Aug '11

Hi All, Could somebody direct me to "saenger class" definitions used in base-pair restraints for DNA/RNA. Cheers Jens *+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++* * * *Jens J. Birktoft e-mail: birktoft(a)nyu.edu <jens.knold(a)gmail.com> New York University, Dept. Chemistry Phone: 212-749-5057 *

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phenix.phaser multiple pdbs
by G Y 17 Aug '11

17 Aug '11

Dear all, I am writing a bash script for running phenix.phaser automatically on an ensemble of multiple pdbs. These pdbs have been superimposed by other tools before running phaser. The following is what I wrote for the ensemble part in params.eff file: ensemble { model_id = a1 coordinates { pdb = model1.pdb pdb = model2.pdb pdb = model3.pdb pdb = model4.pdb rmsd = None identity = 0.9 } It runs well. When it finished, I want to confirm that it really run MR on all four models or on a ensemble of these models. However in .log file, I found at the refinement part it shown me: ---------- REFINEMENT ---------- There is 1 solution to refine Refining solutions 0% 100% |==| DONE Configuring ensembles --------------------- PDB file # 1: model1.pdb This pdb file contains 1 models The (input) RmsD of this model with respect to the real structure is 0.8 **************************** Does this mean that phenix.phaser only run MR with the first model? Does it due to the way I wrote in my params.eff file? What would be the correct way? Many thanks! best, G

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changing project directory
by Jens Kaiser 16 Aug '11

16 Aug '11

Hi all, I have project data on external hard drives. As I use several different file systems, and mount the drives in random order, I cannot rely on the device being mounted in the same mount point. In order to keep paths consistent, I link the project directories into my home. This used to work fine. I recently created a project, and phenix seemed to have used the real path instead of the link-path (That's not the problem, yet). I tried to manually edit ~/.phenix/project_db.phil, but it still tries to write in a non-existing directory. A naive 'grep -R "disk-1" ~/.phenix' did not reveal any obvious file either. Where can I change the directory associated with a project {per,con}sistently? Thanks for your time, Jens

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nucleic acid secondary restraints breaking in 1.7.1-743
by Francis E Reyes 16 Aug '11

16 Aug '11

Hi all Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.1-743/phenix/phenix/command_line/refine.py", line 11, in <module> command_line.run(command_name="phenix.refine", args=sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.1-743/phenix/phenix/refinement/command_line.py", line 67, in run overwrite = command_line_interpreter.command_line.options.overwrite) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.1-743/phenix/phenix/refinement/driver.py", line 112, in __init__ hbond_params=self.params.hydrogen_bonding) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.1-743/cctbx_project/mmtbx/secondary_structure/__init__.py", line 494, in create_hbond_proxies log=log) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.1-743/cctbx_project/mmtbx/secondary_structure/__init__.py", line 286, in hydrogen_bond_proxies_from_selections log=log) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.7.1-743/cctbx_project/mmtbx/secondary_structure/base_pairing.py", line 415, in create_hbond_proxies if distance_values[i][2] != '_': IndexError: tuple index out of range When specifying a single base pair when using secondary_structure nucleic acids restraints Any ideas? Thanks! F --------------------------------------------- Francis E. Reyes M.Sc. 215 UCB University of Colorado at Boulder

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modelling of disordered protein
by intekhab alam 16 Aug '11

16 Aug '11

Hi I solved an RNA polymerase structure in its native as well as in complex with chemical ligands (2.5A and C2 space group). The structure has been solved by MR a protein having 60% identity. The ASU has a monomer and dimer. Recently i complexed this RNA polymerase (protein A) with a highly flexible protein B and got the crystal. These crytsal also have C2 space group (resolution 2.3A) having similar cell parameters but has psudotranslation (17.34%). I tried MR using rosetta. HHpred server selected one of my deposited structure in PDB (3NAI 100% identity) as template. Rosetta MR gave 2 solutions one of which is dimer-monomer arrangement while the other one is a trimer. The values of these solution are below. Solution 1: trimer REMARK Log-Likelihood Gain: 10662.548 REMARK RFZ=16.5 TFZ=14.4 PAK=0 LLG=959 TFZ==23.2 RFZ=0.0 TFZ=48.9 PAK=0 LLG=3195 TFZ==55.6 (& TFZ==52.6) LLG+=(3191 & 7008) LLG=7024 TFZ==72.0 LLG=10663 TFZ==90.1 Solution 2: Monomer and dimer in ASU REMARK Log-Likelihood Gain: 2120.965 REMARK RFZ=39.7 TFZ=21.9 PAK=0 LLG=811 TFZ==37.7 LLG=2121 TFZ==43.6 REMARK ENSEMBLE ensemble_1 EULER 204.07 178.91 204.37 FRAC 0.499 Map and model fits well in both the cases with R and R free 26 and 30% respectively. My queries: 1. which one will be the correct solution? Is it possible that the protein B has resulted in the trimeric arrangement? 2. i cannot find any continuous 2Fo-Fc map for proteinB, but there are some continuous density at 0.7 which is very ambiguous. how can i improve the map so that i can model some fragments of my proteinB (protein B is of 73 amino acids and is predicted to be highly flexible and disordered. ((biochemical as well as bioinformatical analysis done )) I already have tried autobuild but it fails to build even a partial fragment of the proteinB. Kindly suggest how to proceed , or how can i prove the presence of protein B in the structure. Regards INTEKHAB ALAM LABORATORY OF STRUCTURAL BIOINFORMATICS KOREA UNIVERSITY, SEOUL

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LigandFit error
by Priit Eek 14 Aug '11

14 Aug '11

Hi, I'm getting this error when trying to run LigandFit from the GUI: The key gui_output_dir is not in var_type_dict…this means the command-line Wizard needs a conversion in the ligandfit.py script under 'Translating inputs' or else in excluded_inputs or else the Wizard SetVars routine needs this variable set Is this a bug? I am using the 64-bit dev-842 version on OS X 10.7 Lion. Best regards, Priit

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Unexpected Occupancy refiniement for ligands...
by Yuri 13 Aug '11

13 Aug '11

Hey, So I am finishing up a model at 1.5 A and I tried to refine my ligands (3) and waters (468) in addition to altloc residues. The residues refine as expected e.g OccA + OccB = 1.0 and all atoms in A have OccA and all the atoms in B have OccB. My ligands on the other are being refined as the following: HETATM 6867 C1 MLA L 3 32.357 -28.612 7.978 0.93 23.77 C C HETATM 6868 O1A MLA L 3 31.209 -28.949 7.502 0.85 24.79 C O HETATM 6869 O1B MLA L 3 32.454 -28.160 9.141 0.70 22.70 C O HETATM 6870 C2 MLA L 3 33.553 -28.727 7.095 1.00 25.46 C C HETATM 6871 C3 MLA L 3 34.774 -28.070 7.627 0.92 28.45 C C HETATM 6872 O3A MLA L 3 34.830 -27.664 8.808 1.00 30.15 C O HETATM 6873 O3B MLA L 3 35.775 -27.948 6.840 1.00 30.23 C O HETATM 6874 HC21 MLA L 3 33.321 -28.281 6.139 1.00 30.56 C H HETATM 6875 HC22 MLA L 3 33.760 -29.776 6.943 1.00 30.56 C H Each atom is getting an individual occupancy assigned, which physically is impossible :) Any light? Could it be my selection syntax? Corrigendum: I think I sent a bug email last night about an error when writing mtz files in refinement. It was an accident. My naming convention was bad, thats why it crashed. Sorry -- Yuri Pompeu

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R/Rfree discrepancy Phenix vs Refmac
by Sabine Schneider 12 Aug '11

12 Aug '11

Hello, I am refining a structure at 2.1A solved by MR. For curiosity I'm testing things like 'shaking' coordinates, simulated annealing, refinement Refmac vs Phenix and so on, to see what influence that has on stats, maps etc. For instance after MR I did a bit of shaking the coordinates with pdbset (noise 0.1), followed by simulated annealing in Phenix. Phenix states after SA: Start R-work = 0.2671, R-free = 0.2992 Final R-work = 0.2312, R-free = 0.2666 When I use the output pdb of phenix directly in Refmac (with same mtz as input for Phenix) Refmac tells me: Initial R factor 0.2392 R free 0.2887 So I am quite puzzled about the discrepancy. Or can someone tell me if I made an error in reasoning somewhere? Thanks a lot for the help! Sabine

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getting the crystal form
by Bradley Hintze 11 Aug '11

11 Aug '11

I was wondering if there was a easy way to grab the crystal form for a given PDB code? -- Bradley J. Hintze Duke University Graduate Student Department of Biochemistry

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phenix.grow_density documentation
by Joern Krausze 11 Aug '11

11 Aug '11

Dear all, could anybody please provide me with a documentation for phenix.grow_density? I did'nt find one on the Phenix homepage or elsewhere in the depths of the internet. Thanks in advance, Joern ****************************************** Address: Joern Krausze Molecular Structural Biology Helmholtz Centre for Infection Research Inhoffenstrasse 7 38124 Braunschweig Germany Email: joern.krausze(a)helmholtz-hzi.de Phone: +49 (0)531 6181 7023 (office) +49 (0)531 6181 7020 (lab) ****************************************** Helmholtz-Zentrum für Infektionsforschung GmbH | Inhoffenstraße 7 | 38124 Braunschweig | www.helmholtz-hzi.de Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrates: MinDir’in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe, Bundesministerium für Bildung und Forschung Stellvertreter: MinDirig Heiko Gevers, Niedersächsisches Ministerium für Wissenschaft und Kultur Geschäftsführung: Prof. Dr. Dirk Heinz; Ulf Richter, MBA Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung (GmbH) Sitz der Gesellschaft: Braunschweig Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Braunschweig, HRB 477

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Large size display system
by jens j birktoft 11 Aug '11

11 Aug '11

Sorry if this topic is bit off-list We are looking for some advice regarding a presentation system that permit the display in high definition of interactive molecular graphic sessions (incl. PHENIX,COOT, PyMOL. CHIMERA etc ) to our research group (10-12 people). Ideally we would like a 32"-36" LCD monitor coupled to a computer equipped with the proper graphics card for the large display as well as 24" monitor . Any suggestions would be appreciated Cheers Jens *+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++* * * *Jens J. Birktoft, Department of Chemistry, New York University e-mail: birktoft(a)nyu.edu <jens.knold(a)gmail.com> slow-mail: 350 Central Park West, Suite 9F, New York, NY 10025 Phone: 212-749-5057* *+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++* * * *Jens J. Birktoft e-mail: jens.knold(a)gmail.com slow-mail: 350 Central Park West, Suite 9F, New York, NY 10025 Phone: 212-749-5057 *

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Re: [phenixbb] rosetta fragment files -- corrected command
by Thomas C. Terwilliger 11 Aug '11

11 Aug '11

Hi again David, Sorry, corrected command below. Can you try the version of the script I put in phenix: phenix.adjust_robetta_resid fragments_in fragments_adjusted <start_resno> Let me know if that doesn't do it! All the best, Tom T >> Hi, >> >> I'm also trying to use rosetta with a protein that has more than 650 aminoacids. I have found the answer on last June to the similar question about the fragment files but I couldn't make the script to change the aminoacids numbers work so far >> http://www.phenix-online.org/pipermail/phenixbb/2011-June/017268.html >> >> However I think the script got out of format and I can't make it work. I have python installed however I'm a total beginner on python. >> >> Is it possible that I could have the scrip file so I don't lose the proper format? >> Also, should I replace something inside (like put the file name somewhere) so it works? >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> David Neves >> Institut de Biologie Structurale >> Grenoble France >> >>

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rosetta fragment files
by David NEVES 11 Aug '11

11 Aug '11

Hi, I'm also trying to use rosetta with a protein that has more than 650 aminoacids. I have found the answer on last June to the similar question about the fragment files but I couldn't make the script to change the aminoacids numbers work so far http://www.phenix-online.org/pipermail/phenixbb/2011-June/017268.html However I think the script got out of format and I can't make it work. I have python installed however I'm a total beginner on python. Is it possible that I could have the scrip file so I don't lose the proper format? Also, should I replace something inside (like put the file name somewhere) so it works? Thanks in advance David Neves Institut de Biologie Structurale Grenoble France

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autobuild mtz file
by intekhab alam 08 Aug '11

08 Aug '11

Hi there i run autobuild in phenix and have my model and mtz file. when i open my mtz file in coot using the option open mtz, a window pops " column label assignment" How can i convert this mtz file that can open in coot which has both 2fo-fc as well as fo-fc maps. -- INTEKHAB ALAM LABORATORY OF STRUCTURAL BIOINFORMATICS KOREA UNIVERSITY, SEOUL

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Intensity-Weighted Reciprocal Lattice
by Michael Thompson 05 Aug '11

05 Aug '11

Hello ccp4 & phenix BB members, I would like to view the intensity-weighted reciprocal lattice for several data sets that I have collected. (The data have been indexed, integrated and scaled with Denzo and Scalepack.) I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice on what might be the best and/or most practical way to do this? I know that there are several programs out there that can generate sections (i.e. 0,k,l) of the reciprocal lattice, such as LABELIT and xrayplot. Are there any other options for doing this, perhaps within ccp4 and/or phenix? I once saw someone give a presentation and they had a little video that showed a three dimensional section of the reciprocal lattice rocking back and forth, which was really cool. I liked this because I felt like it gave a much more holistic representation as opposed to viewing a bunch of individual sections. I don't know if there is an easy way to do this, or if this person somehow managed to create this 3D depiction from a series of sections. Any tips or recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike -- Michael C. Thompson Graduate Student Biochemistry & Molecular Biology Division Department of Chemistry & Biochemistry University of California, Los Angeles miket(a)chem.ucla.edu

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adding hydrogens -> increasing clash score
by Tatyana Sysoeva 05 Aug '11

05 Aug '11

Hi! I have probably a very naive question - when one includes hydrogens into a refinement of a model build with data at ~3.6A clash score should not go up? I mean I am including hydrogens for a reason of improving the model quality when I cannot fit the sidechains into some density, etc. Can it be true that using default 3 macrocycles on a changed (reduced) model is not enough to minimize it? Thanks, Tanya

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Alternate occupancies
by Yuri 04 Aug '11

04 Aug '11

Dear all, If tell phenix.refine to do occupancy refinement on resname HOH, will it still perform the default refinement for residues with alternate conformers? -- Yuri Pompeu

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how to apply phi/psi helical restraints
by Daqi Tu 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

Hi, I was trying to restrain a relatively mobile region of my structure to be helical using Phenix secondary structure restraints. The result is very bad. It forces the N-O distance to be about 3A, but the phi/psi angles are all ugly. What is the way in Phenix I can apply phi/psi restraints just like in the old CNS, which had always worked nicely? Thank you. Daqi Tu

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phenix.mr_rosetta
by Andreas Förster 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

Dear all, I've made the frightening plunge into the cold waters of Rosetta (3.3 this time) again, with an eye on using it with Phenix, and am sharing the joy. Things work, but: - Download rosetta_source and rosetta_database separately. The bundle doesn't contain all the files. - Compilation fails on RHEL 6.1 (gcc 4.5 issue) but sails on RHEL 5.5. - $PHENIX_ROSETTA_PATH must point to the Rosetta installation directory (where rosetta_source and rosetta_database sit). Don't be misled by the phenix.mr_rosetta documentation into setting $PHENIX_ROSETTTA_PATH (triple T). - all directories in the Rosetta installation must be made accessible to users find $PHENIX_ROSETTA_PATH -type d -exec chmod 755 '{}' \; Hope that helps someone. Andreas -- Andreas Förster, Research Associate Paul Freemont & Xiaodong Zhang Labs Department of Biochemistry, Imperial College London http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk

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new optimize weight
by daqi tu 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

Hi, With Phenix dev-836, when optimize_xyz_weight and optimize_adp_weight are set to true, where can I find the optimal weights so I can directly put into the next run to save time (i.e. without optimizing any more). Previously it is a scale factor I can use for fix_wxc for example. But right now I can only see a weight factor. Thanks. Daqi

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Re: [phenixbb] Third issue of Computation Crystallography Newsletter - Volume 2, Number 2
by Frank von Delft 01 Aug '11

01 Aug '11

Hi, just scanned through the article on automatic weight adjustment. If I had to summarise figures 1 and 2, I'd have to conclude that the latest weight optimization only occasionally produces better results than not doing it (fig 2); and that therefore the old optimization was considerably worse than doing nothing at all. Or have I misinterpreted it? Cheers phx On 28/07/2011 19:59, Nigel Moriarty wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I am pleased to announce the publication of the third issue of the > Computational Crystallography Newsletter: > > http://www.phenix-online.org/newsletter/ > > A listing of the articles and short communications is given below. > Please note that the newsletter accepts articles of a general nature > of interest to all crystallographers. Please send any articles to me > at > NWMoriarty(a)lbl.gov noting that there is a Word Template on the website > to streamline production. > > Articles > -------- > > Improved target weight optimization in phenix.refine > Mite-y lysozyme crystal and structure > > > Short communications > -------------------- > > A lightweight, versatile framework for visualizing reciprocal-space data > An extremely fast spotfinder for real-time beamline applications > Hints for running phenix.mr_rosetta > > > Cheers > Nigel >

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Re: [phenixbb] problem in rosetta rebuilding
by intekhab alam 01 Aug '11

01 Aug '11

Hi, Tom sorry for the delayed response. I was abale to fix by running one model. rosetta is working fine now. thanks again Intekhab Alam On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Thomas C. Terwilliger < terwilliger(a)lanl.gov> wrote: > Hi Intekhab, > > I'm glad the test works at least. How about trying this: > > Run just the job that hangs, but instead of running 100 models...just run > one single model. Does that work? > > All the best, > Tom > > > >> Hi Tom > >> i tried the commnad line and it works well. we also have increased the > >> memory to 3GB (earlier it was 2GB) > >> but still the system hangs with no response overnight. > >> the specifications of my system is as: > >> Ubuntu 9.04 > >> GCC 4.2 > >> RAM 3GB > >> Rosetta 3.2 > >> Phenix 1.7.1 > >> the command line test using > >> "phenix_regression.wizards.test_command_line_rosetta_quick_tests > >> test_rosetta_rebuild" works well . > >> > >> regards > >> intekhab alam > >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Thomas C. Terwilliger < > >> terwilliger(a)lanl.gov> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Intekhab, > >>> > >>> I'm not sure about the part about the machine shutting down...but here > >>> is > >>> a little test you can run to make sure that rosetta and phenix are > >>> working > >>> properly together in rebuilding a model: > >>> > >>> phenix_regression.wizards.test_command_line_rosetta_quick_tests > >>> test_rosetta_rebuild > >>> > >>> or a more complete set of tests: > >>> > >>> phenix_regression.wizards.test_command_line_rosetta_quick_tests > >>> > >>> All the best, > >>> Tom T > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> On 07/19/2011 04:49 PM, intekhab alam wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Hi > >>> >>> i tried to run rosetta on a unix machine (ubuntu 9.04) for my data. > >>> Upto > >>> >>> MR step everything goes fine , but during the rebuilding step after > >>> 20 > >>> >>> cycles the computer shuts down. > >>> >> > >>> >> Interesting behavior for a Linux machine. > >>> >> > >>> >> Once the machine has rebooted, reading the output > >>> >> of the dmesg command and looking at events prior to the last boot > >>> >> may give you some information on why the computer hung. > >>> >> > >>> >> My guess is that you went out of memory while using mr_rosetta. > >>> >> > >>> >>> i have attached the log file for the autobuilding run of rosetta. i > >>> am > >>> >>> using phenix 1.7.1-743 version. > >>> >>> i will be grateful if some one helps me out > >>> >>> -- > >>> >>> INTEKHAB ALAM > >>> >>> LABORATORY OF STRUCTURAL BIOINFORMATICS > >>> >>> KOREA UNIVERSITY, SEOUL > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> >>> phenixbb mailing list > >>> >>> phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org > >>> >>> http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> phenixbb mailing list > >>> >> phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org > >>> >> http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb > >>> >> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> phenixbb mailing list > >>> phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org > >>> http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> INTEKHAB ALAM > >> LABORATORY OF STRUCTURAL BIOINFORMATICS > >> KOREA UNIVERSITY, SEOUL > >> > > -- INTEKHAB ALAM LABORATORY OF STRUCTURAL BIOINFORMATICS KOREA UNIVERSITY, SEOUL

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