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Important change in phenix.refine output: MTZ file with data and map coefficients
by Pavel Afonine 04 Mar '11

04 Mar '11

Hi Everyone, starting development version dev-686: http://www.phenix-online.org/download/nightly_builds.cgi phenix.refine does not output *map_coeffs.mtz file. Instead, it creates prefix_serial.mtz file (example: lysozime_001.mtz) containing four sections: - section 1: Original input data (Iobs or Fobs, and HL coefficients if provided) and flags (as supplied in input); - section 2: Experimental data used in refinement (labels: F-obs-filtered, SIGF-obs-filtered). This can be different from "Original data" due to Iobs->Fobs conversion (if input data are intensities) and outliers filtering; - section 3: Contains total model structure factors (labels: F-model, PHIF-model) used everywhere in refinement (for the formula, see: http://www.phenix-online.org/documentation/fmodel.htm). In the future, this section might be extended to explicitly list all contributions to Fmodel, such as Fcalc (corresponding to atomic model), Fbulk (bulk solvent contribution), and so on. - section 4: Fourier map coefficients (exactly the same as used to be in *map_coeffs.mtz file). This change is meant to reduce the confusion when people tended to use *map_coeffs.mtz file for refinement and PDB deposition, and facilitates the reproduction of refinement statistics (R-factors, for example). Also, thanks to Jeff Headd, by default phenix.refine now converts input intensities (Iobs) to amplitudes (Fobs) using French & Wilson method (Acta Cryst A34, 517, 1978), so no need to run a specific program (Truncate, for example) to do this. To see the content of a MTZ file use phenix.mtz.dump command: phenix.mtz.dump data.mtz Pavel.

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Geometry problem with sugars refined in phenix
by Tirumala Kumar Chowdary 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

Hi, I have refined a structure with NAGs linked to ASNs at 3 places in my structure. I used the right link definitions and the NAG definitions are from Phenix library. Phenix refined all the sugars right and made the right links between the NAGs. However, while submitting, PDB found problem with the geometry of NAGs linked to the ASN at two places. This is the issue -the atoms around C1 atom of the sugar molecule NAG A #810 and NAG A #1670 are on a plane and the C1 atom center is far off to be tetrahedral. Please, verify the chirality of C1 and provide the correct coordinates if necessary.- Any ideas on how to fix the geometry of these sugars will be of great help. Regularization and real space refine in Coot is not working or I don't know how to do it. I am looking for alternative ways to fix this problem. Thank You Tirumal

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Re: [phenixbb] number of cycles
by Maia Cherney 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Hi, I am using now the latest phenix version and I am curious how to understand these lines: Flipped N/Q/H residues before refinement: A 28 HIS A 72 HIS A 141 GLN A 202 GLN A 296 ASN ** A 335 ASN ** both conformations clash, **PLEASE CHECK MANUALLY** ** A 347 GLN ** both conformations clash, **PLEASE CHECK MANUALLY** A 353 ASN A 388 HIS Maia

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[Fwd: Re: number of cycles]
by Maia Cherney 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [phenixbb] number of cycles Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:50:57 -0700 From: Maia Cherney <chern(a)ualberta.ca> To: Jeff Headd <jjheadd(a)lbl.gov> References: <40FBFA09-3C52-460A-A6A1-7D08F6496AD2(a)umich.edu> <AANLkTin=8_ddvihNSDyLp9k1iSpV9fVj6A2ndvoUTJ6O(a)mail.gmail.com> <0171D39299ABC14AAAA75ABABDD0BBB63868BF23AA(a)NIHMLBX12.nih.gov> <A8FA87FE-7DF1-48BE-AA44-E19BB7D0E6E0(a)crystal.harvard.edu> <4CAC89B8.9090909(a)lbl.gov> <4D12B58C.1030604(a)ualberta.ca> <4D12E866.9070602(a)lbl.gov> <4D138B20.5050001(a)ualberta.ca> <4D14E51F.2040305(a)lbl.gov> <4D164065.3050709(a)ualberta.ca> <4D165AE5.8090905(a)lbl.gov> <4D6C0DB1.5040003(a)ualberta.ca> <4D6C9271.6000301(a)lbl.gov> <4D6DA14C.6060806(a)ualberta.ca> <AANLkTi=GXvoGWsB+3+NNBNFvVtzc0Q0ag1Ln_U6FqHqO(a)mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Jeff. Though I don't see any clashes for any orientations. But this feature is really great. Jeff Headd wrote: > Hi Maia, > > Phenix.refine analyzes Asn, Gln, and His residues at each macrocycle > and determines which orientation is likely correct given the local > environment of the sidechain. The best orientation will have no steric > clashes and satisfy local H-bond donors/acceptors. In cases where > there are other model errors in the region of the sidechain and both > orientations clash significantly, you'll see the **PLEASE CHECK > MANUALLY** warning which indicates that there are likely multiple > misfit sidechains that need to be corrected, and refinement alone is > not powerful enough to escape the false minimum. > > If you want to turn this feature off, you can add main.nqh_flips=False > to your refinement call or > > main { > nqh_flips=False > } > > to your param file. However, we highly recommend leaving this option > on as it is an excellent diagnostic of model errors. > > If you have any further questions please let me know. > > Thanks, > Jeff > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Maia Cherney <chern(a)ualberta.ca> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am using now the latest phenix version and I am curious how to understand >> these lines: >> >> >> Flipped N/Q/H residues before refinement: >> A 28 HIS >> A 72 HIS >> A 141 GLN >> A 202 GLN >> A 296 ASN >> ** A 335 ASN ** both conformations clash, **PLEASE CHECK MANUALLY** >> ** A 347 GLN ** both conformations clash, **PLEASE CHECK MANUALLY** >> A 353 ASN >> A 388 HIS >> >> Maia >> _______________________________________________ >> phenixbb mailing list >> phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org >> http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb >> >> > > >

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Glycan Links/Restraints
by Damian Ekiert 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Sorry to bring up an old topic again but I can't find any documentation of glycan refinement on the Phenix website and previous threads don't seem to answer my question. I am refining a structure with N-linked glycans. I have inserted several "apply_cif_link" records to my .eff file to define the glycan topologies (see below) and fed in a cif file for BMA. After fiddling for quite some time now, I have managed to get around all the error messages people have described previously to disappear. Yet, 1) none of my linkages appear to be enforced and 2) even the restraints on the individual sugars appear to be unenforced (or at least, insufficiently so). For example, some rings are rendered almost flat, or flipped into boat or otherwise distorted conformations, and glycosidic bonds stretch to >2 A. No obvious signs of trouble in the log file, running the latest version (1.7, also tried 1.6.4), but my glycans look terrible (despite some of the best density I have ever seen! :-) ) Any suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks, Damian Ekiert >From my .eff file: apply_cif_link { data_link = NAG-ASN residue_selection_1 = chain X and resname NAG and resid 401 residue_selection_2 = chain A and resname ASN and resid 91 } apply_cif_link { data_link = NAG-ASN residue_selection_1 = chain Y and resname NAG and resid 401 residue_selection_2 = chain C and resname ASN and resid 91 } apply_cif_link { data_link = NAG-ASN residue_selection_1 = chain Z and resname NAG and resid 401 residue_selection_2 = chain E and resname ASN and resid 91 } apply_cif_link { data_link = BETA1-4 residue_selection_1 = chain X and resname NAG and resid 402 residue_selection_2 = chain X and resname NAG and resid 401 } apply_cif_link { data_link = BETA1-4 residue_selection_1 = chain Y and resname NAG and resid 402 residue_selection_2 = chain Y and resname NAG and resid 401 } apply_cif_link { data_link = BETA1-4 residue_selection_1 = chain Z and resname NAG and resid 402 residue_selection_2 = chain Z and resname NAG and resid 401 } apply_cif_link { data_link = BETA1-4 residue_selection_1 = chain Y and resname BMA and resid 403 residue_selection_2 = chain Y and resname NAG and resid 402 } apply_cif_link { data_link = ALPHA1-3 residue_selection_1 = chain Y and resname MAN and resid 404 residue_selection_2 = chain Y and resname BMA and resid 403 }

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Implementation of French & Wilson data correction?
by Joseph Noel 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Hi All, Any pointers on implementing the new option in the latest build for French & Wilson correction? Does scala output negative intensities so that a proper scaling with this new option can be used? Also, what column labels should be used particularly for proper treatment of anomalous data? Can one use the labels output by scala? Joe ___________________________________________________________ Joseph P. Noel, Ph.D. Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute Professor, The Jack H. Skirball Center for Chemical Biology and Proteomics The Salk Institute for Biological Studies 10010 North Torrey Pines Road La Jolla, CA 92037 USA Phone: (858) 453-4100 extension 1442 Cell: (858) 349-4700 Fax: (858) 597-0855 E-mail: noel(a)salk.edu Web Site (Salk): http://www.salk.edu/faculty/faculty_details.php?id=37 Web Site (HHMI): http://hhmi.org/research/investigators/noel.html ___________________________________________________________

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Bay Area and Beyond Phenix User Meeting
by Paul Adams 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Dear Colleagues, On Thursday March 17th, a Bay Area and Beyond Phenix User Meeting will be held at Lawrence Berkeley Lab. During the workshop, the Phenix developers will give lectures on the latest developments and Phenix usage. Half of the user meeting will be in the form of informal hands on sessions, allowing participants to work with the developers. Participants are encouraged to bring their own (reduced) data to be used during hands on sessions, but tutorial data will also be available. Due to the highly interactive format of the meeting there will be space for approximately 20 participants. If I have missed any of your colleagues on this invitation please feel free to pass on the message. To apply, researchers should send a email to NEchols(a)lbl.gov and PDAdams(a)lbl.gov by Monday March 7th. Unfortunately we are unable to provide any funds to support student travel to the meeting. Cheers, Paul -- Paul Adams Deputy Division Director, Physical Biosciences Division, Lawrence Berkeley Lab Adjunct Professor, Department of Bioengineering, U.C. Berkeley Vice President for Technology, the Joint BioEnergy Institute Head, Berkeley Center for Structural Biology Building 64, Room 248 Tel: 1-510-486-4225, Fax: 1-510-486-5909 http://cci.lbl.gov/paul Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory 1 Cyclotron Road BLDG 64R0121 Berkeley, CA 94720, USA. Executive Assistant: Kathleen Moody [ KLMoody(a)lbl.gov ][ 1-510-495-2506 ] --

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how to cut off side chain from a model
by crystallogrphy 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Hi, I am refining a low resolution data (4.7A). I want to cut off all side chains from my model because they cannot be seen from the density. Phenix pdbtools can only keep the backbone, but cannot keep the Cbeta atom. What program I can use to cut off all the side chain, but keep the Cbeta atoms? Thanks!

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ICSG 2011 early registration and abstracts submission open until March 4
by Tom Terwilliger 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Dear Colleagues, We hope that you are planning to attend the International Conference on Structural Genomics 2011, which will be held in Toronto, Canada on May 10-14, 2011. Due to technical difficulties with the registration page, we have extended both the early registration and abstract submission deadlines. Abstract submission and early bird registration will now end Friday March 4th at 11:59pm EST. Please visit http://www.icsg2011.org for ICSG 2011 meeting and workshop registration details and to submit your abstract. We hope to see you there! Best regards, Cheryl Arrowsmith ICSG 2011 Organizer Ted Baker Stephen Burley Dino Moras Joel Sussman Shigeyuki Yokoyama Tom Terwilliger ISGO Executive Committee Thomas C. Terwilliger Mail Stop M888 Los Alamos National Laboratory Los Alamos, NM 87545 Tel: 505-667-0072 email: terwilliger(a)LANL.gov Fax: 505-665-3024 SOLVE web site: http://solve.lanl.gov PHENIX web site: http:www.phenix-online.org ISFI Integrated Center for Structure and Function Innovation web site: http://techcenter.mbi.ucla.edu TB Structural Genomics Consortium web site: http://www.doe-mbi.ucla.edu/TB CBSS Center for Bio-Security Science web site: http://www.lanl.gov/cbss

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Question about Adding Hydrogens
by Louis Lazar 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

All, I was curious if there is a way to add hydrogens to an individual residue. For example, rather than running the command: phenix.ready_set model.pdb, run something like: phenix.ready_set model.pdb resid=X or phenix.ready_set=resid 10 model.pdb Any thoughts/recommendations on the subject are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Louis

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ICSG 2011 Early Registration Deadline Feb 28, 2011
by Thomas C. Terwilliger 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

ICSG 2011 Abstract and Early Registration Deadline Feb 28, 2011 Dear Colleagues, We hope that you are planning to attend the International Conference on Structural Genomics 2011, which will be held in Toronto, Canada on May 10-14, 2011. The meeting is designed to serve as a forum to discuss the most recent developments in structural genomics, structural/chemical biology, and their impact on research in biology, medicine and disease. There are many speaking slots still open that will be chosen from submitted poster abstracts. We invite you to submit your abstract by February 28, 2011. Please also note that early registration will end on February 28, 2011, so we invite you to register now in order to take advantage of the reduced registration fee. In addition to the main ICSG meeting, there will be a whole day of free concurrent satellite workshops (May 10, 2011), including: Small Molecule Screening Workshop- This hands-on workshop will allow participants to screen a protein of their choice for binding of selected compounds, using thermal shift assays. Eukaryotic Gene Expression Systems Workshop - This workshop will provide participants with a detailed understanding of the state-of-the-art for production of eukaryotic proteins destined for biochemical, biophysical, and structural analyses. iSee: Interactive 3D Documents for the Dissemination of Structural Biology - This hands-on workshop will familiarize participants with the iSEE 3D graphical software which allows interactive viewing of 3 dimensional molecular structures and is currently used by journals such as Nature Structural & Molecular Biology and PLoS Biology and PLoS ONE. Workshop on NMR Methods for Structural Biology- This workshop will survey technologies for structure/function investigations of proteins, developed in (or in collaboration with) structural genomics projects, that are ready for widespread use by the wider biological community. Phenix Crystallography Software Workshop - This workshop will introduce the PHENIX software for macromolecular structure determination and the core algorithms that it uses. It will provide hands-on tutorials for crystallographers of all levels. Please visit http://www.icsg2011.org for ICSG 2011 meeting and workshop registration details and to submit your abstract. We hope to see you there! Best regards, Cheryl Arrowsmith ICSG 2011 Organizer Ted Baker Stephen Burley Dino Moras Joel Sussman Shigeyuki Yokoyama Tom Terwilliger ISGO Executive Committee

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composite omit map problem
by Morgan Thompson 23 Feb '11

23 Feb '11

Hi, I am having trouble generating a composite omit map using the AutoBuild GUI. I am using Phenix version 1.7-650 on Ubuntu and I am able to run AutoBuild to make a simulated annealing composite omit map using my experimental data .mtz file and a reasonably refined model (R/R-free of 24/29% at 3.3 Angstrom). However, when I load the map - resolve_composite_map.mtz - into Coot (version 0.6.1) along with the starting model it looks terrible. There is quite a bit of density between each molecule within the ASU but very little density surrounding the model itself. However, I am able to open any of the .mtz_OMIT_REGION_XX files and they look really good. Any suggestions? Thanks, Morgan Biochemistry Department Dartmouth College

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questions on refinement
by Hena Dutta 23 Feb '11

23 Feb '11

Hello, I have a question on refinement of macromolecules. I like to apply 180 degree rotation to the side chain of a particular residue about a particular bond and see, which one (before or after applying rotation) agrees well with the observed x-ray data (based on R factors and electron density map). Can someone advise, what could be the best way to do this? I like to do the same operation on multiple structures which are already refined. Regards, hena

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phenix find tls groups
by Kendall Nettles 23 Feb '11

23 Feb '11

is there a command line interface to have phenix find TLS groups ? Best regards, Kendall Nettles

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Deadline March 1, 2011: Travel Fellowships for XXII IUCr Congress, Madrid, August 22-31, 2011
by Gloria Borgstahl 21 Feb '11

21 Feb '11

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adding ligands to model
by Geoffrey Feld 21 Feb '11

21 Feb '11

Greetings, I have a few structures I am trying to refine that have density for ligands, and I'm having trouble getting phenix to refine them properly. There are two unique scenarios, so I'll go in order of difficulty. 1) There are non-water solvent molecules (i.e. probably PEGs) that are here and there in the structure. I used phenix.elbow with SMILES notation to build the requested ligands and placed / real space refined them into the density using COOT. Now I cannot get phenix to refine the structure, every time I get the message "Number of atoms with unknown nonbonded energy type symbols: XX Please edit the PDB file to resolve the problems and/or supply a CIF file with matching restraint definitions, along with apply_cif_modification and apply_cif_link parameter definitions if necessary. Also note that phenix.ready_set and phenix.elbow are available for creating restraint definitions (CIF files). where XX can be any variation of a number, depending on how I set up the phenix.refine run. This is what I've tried: a) adding the .cif files into my .def file I'm using for refinement parameters b) adding the .cif files on the command line c) running phenix.ready_set to generate .cif files for the unknown ligands and then inputing the .cif files from that on the command line d) running phenix.elbow with --add_all and the pdb to generate .cif files for unknown ligands, then doing as in (c) from the command line None of these seem to get phenix.refine to skip the error mentioned above and start refining. There are 3 different ligands, one of which is repeated 4x, but each has its own chain number in the same chain (I've even tried them each with their own unique chain). Any advice on getting these ligand restraints into phenix so it will happily refine? 2) I have an intramolecular crosslink in another structure, basically I crosslinked two cysteines with 1,3-dichloroacetone, giving a Cys-S-CH2C(=O)CH2-S-Cys linkage. How can I get restraints for this crosslink so it will refine as one covalent chain? So far, I've placed the acetone in between the two Cysteines, but it would be nice for it to be a part of the chain so I can refine it in real space, the density is not so good since the crosslink adds flexibility to the bond as apposed to just a disulfide. Any ideas here? I thought maybe the best way to do it is to just modify one of the cys to contain the extra atoms and call it a new residue, then add bond restraints for the 2nd link, however, then I'm still stuck with the extra hydrogen. Thanks! Geoff -- Geoffrey K. Feld Department of Chemistry 492 Stanley Hall University of California, Berkeley "Vigilia pretium libertatis"

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automating setting up parallel refinement jobs
by Kendall Nettles 19 Feb '11

19 Feb '11

Dear PHENIX developers, I'm writing to ask if it would be possible to automate the following: What we do now is a series of parallel throw away refinements to test for different parameters. So I will set up 12 folders with the same data and different parameter files (and all the same file names). On top of individual sites and adp I would add: 1=nothing (control) 2=ncs=True 3=fix_rotamers = True 4=flip_peptides = True 5=nqh_flips = True 6=individual_sites_real_space 7=tls with 3 groups per monomer 8=tls with 6 groups per monomer 9=tls with 9 groups per monomer 10=tls 1 with 12 groups per monomer 11=tls 1 with 15 groups per monomer 12=tls 2 with 20 groups per monomer I then launch all of them with a script that sends it to a cluster. After reviewing results, we combine parameters for one job that we keep. So here is my feature request: I would love to have a GUI interface to generate the folders and parameter files, where you would select a list of common parameters, and a list of parameters to populate 1/ job, instead of having to set up each one as a separate job. I think this would really speed things up for your industrial users. I'm working on 20 structures of the same protein with different ligands, and expect to spend maybe 8 hours generating TLS groups and editing the 240 parameter files. A GUI interface would make it 10 or 20 minutes! I don't see a way to select different TLS groups. I really prefer to test different ones myself for comparison, at least to convince myself that the auto selection is superior. We see big differences from optimizing TLS group number. Right now I am asking TLSMD to generate all these tls files, copying them to my desktop, copying to parameter files. Help! All the best, Kendall

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isomorphous difference map
by Jason 19 Feb '11

19 Feb '11

Hello everyone, I have two data sets, one for apo form and the other is co-crystalized with ligandl. Both data sets has P1211 space group; resolution is about ~3.5Angstrom. Unit cell: Apo: 105.22, 266.26, 110.63 90.00, 108.12, 90.00 Ligand: 104.60, 264.74, 109.98, 90.00, 106.33, 90.00 When I try to create an isomorphous difference map using phenix GUI, an error message pops up: crystal symmetry mismatch between different files. Anyone could tell me what's the problem and how to solve it? ====================== Jason Structural Biology Department University of Pittsburgh ======================

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ReadySet
by riya doreen 19 Feb '11

19 Feb '11

Hi Everyone, I am having trouble refining a structure that has 2*-deoxy-thymidine-5*-triphosphate (three letter id is TTP). My PDB file has exactly the same number and names for the atoms as described in the cif file (TTP.cif). ReadySet recognizes TTP but crashes with a warning that it could match only 21 out of a total of 29 atoms. What am I missing here ? I can overcome the problem by renaming TTP to some random name and generating a new cif file with phenix.elbow but why can't I use the standard TTP.cif file ? Thanks

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X-ray facility Scientist at MRC LMB, Cambridge, UK
by A Leslie 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

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AutoMR error
by Erik R. Kish-Trier 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

Hi, I am getting the following error from AutoMR, which I am fairly certain is due to the deficiencies of my machine: Python(2624) malloc: *** mmap(size=1665024000) failed (error code=12) *** error: can't allocate region *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug While using the prior release of phenix, I was able to get a similar job to complete, which makes me curious. I am running phenix 1.7-650 (GUI) on an Intel Mac with 4GB of RAM and OS 10.6.6. Any suggestions? Thanks! Erik On Feb 17, 2011, at 11:29 AM, <phenixbb-request(a)phenix-online.org<mailto:[email protected]>> <phenixbb-request(a)phenix-online.org<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Send phenixbb mailing list submissions to phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org<mailto:[email protected]> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to phenixbb-request(a)phenix-online.org<mailto:[email protected]> You can reach the person managing the list at phenixbb-owner(a)phenix-online.org<mailto:[email protected]> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of phenixbb digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: At what percentage of saturated peaks is acceptable? (Mischa Machius) 2. Re: At what percentage of saturated peaks is acceptable? (Ed Pozharski) 3. Unrealistic number of waters found by phenix? (Ina Lindemann) 4. Re: Unrealistic number of waters found by phenix? (Folmer Fredslund) 5. Re: Unrealistic number of waters found by phenix? (Felix Frolow) 6. EMBO 2011 Practical Course - Exploiting Anomalous Scattering - ESRF - 6 - 10 June 2011 (Daniele de Sanctis) 7. IUCr Travel Fellowships Available (Gloria Borgstahl) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:42:55 -0500 From: "Mischa Machius" <machius(a)med.unc.edu<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "PHENIX user mailing list" <phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [phenixbb] At what percentage of saturated peaks is acceptable? Message-ID: <91F63968-BF15-47B4-A15E-FB73279AD18C(a)med.unc.edu<mailto:[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I would recommend taking two passes; a low-resolution pass with short exposures and a high-resolution pass with longer exposures. Then merge the two, and you've got a complete dataset. If applicable, take three or more passes. MM On Feb 16, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Jason wrote: Hi, I have a technical question that is not related to phenix, but I hope some expertise around may help me out. I am intending to increase the exposure time to gain some resolution. At the same time I do not want too many over exposed peak. The question comes to at what percentage of the saturated peaks is acceptable? Many thanks. ====================== Jason Structural Biology Department University of Pittsburgh ====================== _______________________________________________ phenixbb mailing list phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org<mailto:[email protected]> http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:45:47 -0500 From: Ed Pozharski <epozh001(a)umaryland.edu<mailto:[email protected]>> To: PHENIX user mailing list <phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [phenixbb] At what percentage of saturated peaks is acceptable? Message-ID: <1297907147.30587.17.camel@thunderclap> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" If you start losing completeness at low resolution, just collect a low resolution pass (i.e. exactly the same frames but with short exposures). Be mindful of radiation damage though. On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 20:39 -0500, Jason wrote: Hi, I have a technical question that is not related to phenix, but I hope some expertise around may help me out. I am intending to increase the exposure time to gain some resolution. At the same time I do not want too many over exposed peak. The question comes to at what percentage of the saturated peaks is acceptable? Many thanks. ====================== Jason Structural Biology Department University of Pittsburgh ====================== _______________________________________________ phenixbb mailing list phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org<mailto:[email protected]> http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:52:26 +0100 From: Ina Lindemann <lindema2(a)staff.uni-marburg.de<mailto:[email protected]>> To: phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: heinea(a)mailer.uni-marburg.de<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [phenixbb] Unrealistic number of waters found by phenix? Message-ID: <20110217085226.106944rzydtyujeo(a)home.staff.uni-marburg.de<mailto:[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Hi, I am refining a crystal structure of a protein with 198 amino acids at 1.59 A resolution. I have used the function Update waters in phenix. After visual inspection of the found water molecules I deleted some of them, but there are still 334 water molecules left which show reasonable electron density. Many of them interacts just with other water molecules and not with the protein. I calculated the average B of water molecules = 26.3 and protein = 12.6. Now I am wondering if the number of water molecules and their average B value is to high with respect to the protein and would be very pleased about your answers. With best regards, Ina Ina Lindemann Philipps-Universit?t Marburg Pharmazeutische Chemie AG Klebe Marbacher Weg 6 35032 Marburg Tel.: 06421/2825908 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:14:41 +0100 From: Folmer Fredslund <folmerf(a)gmail.com<mailto:[email protected]>> To: PHENIX user mailing list <phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [phenixbb] Unrealistic number of waters found by phenix? Message-ID: <AANLkTimXZUDZQMxf70jRSMPxi+=9dFKHB6OAoVV6wGuw(a)mail.gmail.com<mailto:[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Ina Have a look here (from the CCP4BB) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg19631.html Best regards, Folmer Fredslund 2011/2/17 Ina Lindemann <lindema2(a)staff.uni-marburg.de>: Hi, I am refining a crystal structure of a protein with 198 amino acids at 1.59 A resolution. I have used the function Update waters in phenix. After visual inspection of the found water molecules I deleted some of them, but there are still 334 water molecules left which show reasonable electron density. Many of them interacts just with other water molecules and not with the protein. I calculated the average B of water molecules = 26.3 and protein = 12.6. Now I am wondering if the number of water molecules and their average B value is to high with respect to the protein and would be very pleased about your answers. With best regards, Ina Ina Lindemann Philipps-Universit?t Marburg Pharmazeutische Chemie AG Klebe Marbacher Weg 6 35032 Marburg Tel.: 06421/2825908 _______________________________________________ phenixbb mailing list phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:23:58 +0200 From: Felix Frolow <mbfrolow(a)post.tau.ac.il> To: PHENIX user mailing list <phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org> Cc: heinea(a)mailer.uni-marburg.de Subject: Re: [phenixbb] Unrealistic number of waters found by phenix? Message-ID: <D3ACED80-CB0C-4043-BB4A-CF8E8A936195(a)post.tau.ac.il> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear Ina Lindemann These are problems of the rich people... Be happy and why not, after all your resolution is ~1.6 A I would say that you have not enough water molecules. In such resolution and such molecular size I would expect about 2 or even 3 water molecules per residue. So you are missing 198*2-334=62 water molecules. As a frequent reviewer I would not let a paper describing such structure to pass! ;-) ;-) Dr Felix Frolow Professor of Structural Biology and Biotechnology Department of Molecular Microbiology and Biotechnology Tel Aviv University 69978, Israel Acta Crystallographica F, co-editor e-mail: mbfrolow(a)post.tau.ac.il Tel: ++972-3640-8723 Fax: ++972-3640-9407 Cellular: 0547 459 608 On Feb 17, 2011, at 09:52 , Ina Lindemann wrote: Hi, I am refining a crystal structure of a protein with 198 amino acids at 1.59 A resolution. I have used the function Update waters in phenix. After visual inspection of the found water molecules I deleted some of them, but there are still 334 water molecules left which show reasonable electron density. Many of them interacts just with other water molecules and not with the protein. I calculated the average B of water molecules = 26.3 and protein = 12.6. Now I am wondering if the number of water molecules and their average B value is to high with respect to the protein and would be very pleased about your answers. With best regards, Ina Ina Lindemann Philipps-Universit?t Marburg Pharmazeutische Chemie AG Klebe Marbacher Weg 6 35032 Marburg Tel.: 06421/2825908 _______________________________________________ phenixbb mailing list phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:23:16 +0100 From: Daniele de Sanctis <de.sanctisd(a)gmail.com> To: phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org Subject: [phenixbb] EMBO 2011 Practical Course - Exploiting Anomalous Scattering - ESRF - 6 - 10 June 2011 Message-ID: <AANLkTikigUeBYgzF9wuJg7z5jTkZcKO0sh8j+AGUWDf6(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Deadline in 10 days!! DEADLINE TO APPLY FEBRUARY 28th COURSE ANNOUCEMENT EMBO 2011 Practical Course - Exploiting Anomalous Scattering in Macromolecular Structure Determination ESRF-EMBL, Grenoble, France, 6 - 10 June 2011 The EMBO 2011 Practical Course on Exploiting Anomalous Scattering in Macromolecular Structure Determination will be hosted by the ESRF in Grenoble, France from 6 to 10, June 2011. The course aims to impart the theoretical and practical basis for the 3-dimensional structure determination of bio-macromolecules using Anomalous Dispersion techniques (SAD & MAD) to young scientists who intend to apply these methods in macromolecular crystallography. Through a series of lectures, software demonstrations, practicals on the ESRF beamlines and tutorials, participants will get insights into all aspects of the structure determination process including beamline instrumentation, data collection and processing, heavy atom substructure determination, phasing and model building. There will also be sessions focusing on automated structure solution procedures and newer methods. Additional sessions will include presentations of distinguished structures solved with these techniques. Confirmed invited speakers include: G. Bunkoczi, A. Cameron, D. Chirgadze, Z. Dauter, P. Evans, M. Grininger, T. Gruene, W. Kabsch, S. Panjikar, N. Pannu, A. Popov, H. Powell, L. Sazanov, G. Sheldrick, T. Terwilliger, C. Vonrhein The number of participants is limited to 20 and the deadline for application is February 28th, 2011. Additional information, course programme and instructions to apply to the course can be found in the course webpages: http://cwp.embo.org/pc11-03/ -- ????? --------------------------------------- Daniele de Sanctis, PhD Structural Biology Group ESRF, Grenoble, France Tel 33 (0)4 76 88 2869 ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:42:00 -0600 From: Gloria Borgstahl <gborgstahl(a)gmail.com> To: phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org Subject: [phenixbb] IUCr Travel Fellowships Available Message-ID: <AANLkTik3EecaF_MB8avPPs5jZbVWjoA+s__6k067mDAD(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Please see the attachment The deadline is 15 days away. ************************************************************************ Gloria Borgstahl Eppley Institute for Cancer Research and Allied Diseases 987696 Nebraska Medical Center 10732A Lied Transplant Center Omaha, NE 68198-7696 http://sbl.unmc.edu Office (402) 559-8578 FAX (402) 559-3739 Professor Hobbies: ?Protein Crystallography, Cancer, Biochemistry, DNA Metabolism, Modulated Crystals, ?Crystal Perfection Interests: ?Manga, Led Zeppelin, Cold Play, piano, BRAN, RAGBRAI, golf and lately superspace groups ************************************************************************

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Autosol question
by Laurie Betts 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

Dear Phenix developers, I am SO impressed with what AutoSol (thank you TT) did with some old heavy atom data sets I collected on tetragonal lysozyme some years ago; one was a single-site uranium derivative and the other a pretty dodgy mercury derivative and just the sequence. Neither had any separation of anomalous pairs, so it was totally MIR. In an hour and a half, there was a gorgeous map (not perfect mind you, CC = 0.85, but our students will not realize how much more work this would have been 20 years ago or even 10). I was just curious which statistic in the log file could be compared with the old fashioned "phasing power"? THanks Laurie Betts UNC Chapel Hill

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Unrealistic number of waters found by phenix?
by Ina Lindemann 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

Hi, I am refining a crystal structure of a protein with 198 amino acids at 1.59 A resolution. I have used the function Update waters in phenix. After visual inspection of the found water molecules I deleted some of them, but there are still 334 water molecules left which show reasonable electron density. Many of them interacts just with other water molecules and not with the protein. I calculated the average B of water molecules = 26.3 and protein = 12.6. Now I am wondering if the number of water molecules and their average B value is to high with respect to the protein and would be very pleased about your answers. With best regards, Ina Ina Lindemann Philipps-Universität Marburg Pharmazeutische Chemie AG Klebe Marbacher Weg 6 35032 Marburg Tel.: 06421/2825908

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IUCr Travel Fellowships Available
by Gloria Borgstahl 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

Please see the attachment The deadline is 15 days away. ************************************************************************ Gloria Borgstahl Eppley Institute for Cancer Research and Allied Diseases 987696 Nebraska Medical Center 10732A Lied Transplant Center Omaha, NE 68198-7696 http://sbl.unmc.edu Office (402) 559-8578 FAX (402) 559-3739 Professor Hobbies: Protein Crystallography, Cancer, Biochemistry, DNA Metabolism, Modulated Crystals, Crystal Perfection Interests: Manga, Led Zeppelin, Cold Play, piano, BRAN, RAGBRAI, golf and lately superspace groups ************************************************************************

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EMBO 2011 Practical Course - Exploiting Anomalous Scattering - ESRF - 6 - 10 June 2011
by Daniele de Sanctis 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

Deadline in 10 days!! DEADLINE TO APPLY FEBRUARY 28th COURSE ANNOUCEMENT EMBO 2011 Practical Course - Exploiting Anomalous Scattering in Macromolecular Structure Determination ESRF-EMBL, Grenoble, France, 6 - 10 June 2011 The EMBO 2011 Practical Course on Exploiting Anomalous Scattering in Macromolecular Structure Determination will be hosted by the ESRF in Grenoble, France from 6 to 10, June 2011. The course aims to impart the theoretical and practical basis for the 3-dimensional structure determination of bio-macromolecules using Anomalous Dispersion techniques (SAD & MAD) to young scientists who intend to apply these methods in macromolecular crystallography. Through a series of lectures, software demonstrations, practicals on the ESRF beamlines and tutorials, participants will get insights into all aspects of the structure determination process including beamline instrumentation, data collection and processing, heavy atom substructure determination, phasing and model building. There will also be sessions focusing on automated structure solution procedures and newer methods. Additional sessions will include presentations of distinguished structures solved with these techniques. Confirmed invited speakers include: G. Bunkoczi, A. Cameron, D. Chirgadze, Z. Dauter, P. Evans, M. Grininger, T. Gruene, W. Kabsch, S. Panjikar, N. Pannu, A. Popov, H. Powell, L. Sazanov, G. Sheldrick, T. Terwilliger, C. Vonrhein The number of participants is limited to 20 and the deadline for application is February 28th, 2011. Additional information, course programme and instructions to apply to the course can be found in the course webpages: http://cwp.embo.org/pc11-03/ -- ἀρετή --------------------------------------- Daniele de Sanctis, PhD Structural Biology Group ESRF, Grenoble, France Tel 33 (0)4 76 88 2869

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