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autosol import failed
by Jan Abendroth 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Hi all, I am trying to run Phenix AutoSol on a SAD data set. Sadly enough, it fails on me during reading in the mtz file with the error message below. The same happens with both intensities or amplitudes. phenix version 1.5-2 run through the gui where I read in the mtz file and specified I+, I-, ... Any ideas? Thanks Jan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ error message: ImportRawData_output_files ImportRawData Run 3 Tue Oct 13 18:14:37 2009 NOTE: Input labels currently restricted to: I(+),SIGI(+),I(-),SIGI(-) Note also: a group of labels needs to be enclosed with quotes Skipping labels I(+) SIGI(+) I(-) SIGI(-) which do not match requested labels **************************************** AutoSol Input failed -- Jan Abendroth deCODE biostructures Seattle / Bainbridge Island WA, USA work: JAbendroth_at_decode.is home: Jan.Abendroth_at_gmail.com

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New GUI, MTZ, multiple data sets
by Graeme Winter 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Hi Folks, I just tried reading an MTZ file full of MAD data (from xia2) with the new GUI, and it seems like you can't read more than one data set from a given file - is this the case? It did correctly find all of the columns that were in there. Reading in scalepack format files, one per wavelength, seemed to work fine. Browse then selecting the same file again didn't seem to work, couldn't find the "add another dataset" button... it of course works just fine from the command-line with the .eff file. Thanks, Graeme

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Re: [phenixbb] Does PHENIX exclude Rfree reflections in maps?
by Thomas C. Terwilliger 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Hi Pavel and Joe, I carried out a test to see if (1) excluding a super-free set completely from automated structure solution affects the results and (2) if the super-free R that results is different from the standard free R obtained with all data and excluding the free set only from refinement. Here are the results: A = structure B, C and D are for the run with a super-free set excluded from all calculations. B and C are work and free R for the reflections included in the calculation. D is the R for the super-free set. E and F are work and free R for the same datasets, run in the same way, but without any super-free set. A B C D E F ---super-free-run---- --standard run-- structure work free super-free work free 1029B 0.31 0.38 0.41 0.29 0.36 1038B 0.22 0.26 0.26 0.24 0.28 1071B 0.28 0.33 0.35 0.26 0.30 rab3a-sad 0.31 0.35 0.38 0.29 0.34 rnase-p 0.28 0.32 0.31 0.28 0.29 calmodulin 0.26 0.27 0.27 0.27 0.29 cobd-sad 0.24 0.26 0.26 0.24 0.28 insulin 0.27 0.30 0.29 0.25 0.26 nsf-n 0.23 0.26 0.26 0.21 0.24 ut-synthase 0.24 0.29 0.28 0.24 0.28 mean 0.26 0.30 0.31 0.26 0.29 Conclusions: (1) super-free is very nearly the same as free in the matched set. (2) leaving out super-free data does not make a lot of difference in these actual cases. (Perhaps it might in worse data sets) (3) so it would be ok to take out super-free set, but it is not necessary. All the best, Tom T >> Hi Pavel and Joe, >> >> I'm glad you put that option in, Pavel. However for model-building it is >> not so straightforward. Normally we are building into density-modified >> maps. Density modification works poorly when a significant set of >> reflections is excluded, so this becomes impractical. We could exclude >> those reflections in the map only, but they will have been used in density >> modification so they are no longer truly free. I don't have a good >> solution for that. >> >> I am guessing that for model-building, the free R is hardly affected, >> compared to refinement against the map, though I haven't tested this. >> >> All the best, >> Tom T >> >>>> Hi Joe, hi Tom, >>>> >>>> until recently, all reflections (work and test) were used in map >>>> calculation. When I added a real-space refinement option to >>>> phenix.refine I spent a day thinking hard about why Rfree was almost >>>> always equal to Rwork after real-space refinement, until I realized >>>> that >>>> I have to exclude test reflections from map calculation, and that fixed >>>> the problem. >>>> >>>> I think it depends on the task: >>>> >>>> - for things like real-space refinement (where the map is heavily used) >>>> or automated model building, the test reflections have to be excluded >>>> from map calculation; >>>> >>>> - for catching a tiny detail (looking at weak ligand density = slight >>>> map use) or fixing a few side chains, all reflections should be used, >>>> since 10% of data put aside may sometime significantly affect map >>>> quality. >>>> >>>> Pavel. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/30/09 11:51 AM, Tom Terwilliger wrote: >>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>> In PHENIX R-free reflections are included in your maps. >>>>> All the best, >>>>> Tom T >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Joe Krahn wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Does PHENIX exclude R-free reflections when computing maps? IMHO, it >>>>>> is >>>>>> bad to use test reflections in maps, or anywhere else other than >>>>>> computing R-free, but opinions vary. If some people still want test >>>>>> reflections in maps, maybe it could be an option. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Joe Krahn >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> phenixbb mailing list >>>> phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org >>>> http://www.phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb >>>> >> >>

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Re: [phenixbb] FreeR set reduced by half in twin crystal refinement?
by lauren 08 Oct '09

08 Oct '09

Hi all Thanks for all your reply, really helpful Joe wrote, >My first guess is that the R-free set generated in CCP4 is not set to follow twin laws, so you have work and free reflections associated by twinning. However, I would expect PHENIX >to check this. >As for the reduced size, that probably comes from the way the twinned test set is calculated. Maybe it is a bug. Are you using anomalous data? No anomalous >What is the PHENIX version? Peter wrote, >- you have at least n% of free flags, but not more then 2000+epsilon >(typically) >- it follows any possible twin law (not user specified, it follows symmetry of the lattice) After I change the setting "xray_data.r_free_flags.max_free ", and set it up to 5000. xray_data.r_free_flags.fraction=0.05, the results look normal. Final: r_work = 0.1782 r_free = 0.2285 bonds = 0.007 angles = 1.186 REMARK 3 FIT TO DATA USED IN REFINEMENT. REMARK 3 R VALUE (WORKING + TEST SET) : 0.1807 REMARK 3 R VALUE (WORKING SET) : 0.1782 REMARK 3 FREE R VALUE : 0.2285 REMARK 3 FREE R VALUE TEST SET SIZE (%) : 5.07 REMARK 3 FREE R VALUE TEST SET COUNT : 2776 Best Regards Lauren

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parallel phaser?
by Francis E Reyes 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

Did phaser get OpenMP/parallelized or was I just having a dream? If so, how's it work? Thanks FR --------------------------------------------- Francis Reyes M.Sc. 215 UCB University of Colorado at Boulder gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 67BA8D5D 8AE2 F2F4 90F7 9640 28BC 686F 78FD 6669 67BA 8D5D

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FreeR set reduced by half in twin crystal refinement?
by lauren 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

Hi everyone, I have a P31 twin crystal, resolution 2.0, and with twin fraction 0.451. I use phenix.refine to refine the structure and with freeR set to 8%. % phenix.refine data.sca model.pdb twin_law="h,-h-k,-l" xray_data.r_free_flags.generate=True xray_data.r_free_flags.fraction=0.08 Result: Final: r_work = 0.1793 r_free = 0.2258 bonds = 0.011 angles = 1.557 REMARK 3 FREE R VALUE : 0.2258 REMARK 3 FREE R VALUE TEST SET SIZE (%) : 3.67 REMARK 3 FREE R VALUE TEST SET COUNT : 2013 After the refinement, it seems like my freeR set size reduced by half (3.67%). Is it due to the twin effect, or something is wrong with my refinement? And if I use ccp4 program "scalpeak2mtz " to convert the .sca to .mtz and with freeR fraction set to 8%. Then refine it with phenix. % phenix.refine data.mtz model.pdb twin_law="h,-h-k,-l" Final: r_work = 0.1669 r_free = 0.1970 bonds = 0.010 angles = 1.406 REMARK 3 FREE R VALUE : 0.2022 REMARK 3 FREE R VALUE TEST SET SIZE (%) : 7.80 REMARK 3 FREE R VALUE TEST SET COUNT : 4326 It turns out, my test set is still 8%, and R/Rfree looks even better than the first one. So I am wondering which one is the correct one and why? Thanks! Lauren

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difference map peaks
by RAVINDRA D MAKDE 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

Hi everyone, I would like to have commnets from experts on the following issues. I am refining DNA-protein complex at 3 A resolution and my current Rfree is 21.5 % (phenix.refine). 1. I am getting difference map peaks (in Coot) of magnitude less than -5 sigmas (0.24 e/A3) (~10 or more peaks) and equal number of positive peaks of same magnitudes.The positive peaks hardly have 2fo-fc of more than 1.0 sigma level. I presumed this well could be due to bulk solvent or improper mask. Therefore I optimized the mask parameters (by giving option under "General refinement parameters" in phenix.refine GUI). I could get my R free lower as expected but I still got these peaks back. Although I am not absolutely sure, but positive peaks are more in polar pocket of protein and negative peaks are more in non-polar and aromatic pockets. I have PEG, Na acetate in my crystal soup. What these negative peaks represent for? 2. During addition of atoms like Na+, Cl- in map, do one need to careful about of the its coordination valency in surrounding pocket. ? I will be highly thankful to you for the same. Ravi Ravindra D. Makde, PhD Postdoctoral fellow, Tan lab, The Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, The Pennsylvania State University, University Park, PA 16802 USA

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prime_and_switch, error in input mtz label assignment
by Tatyana Sysoeva 06 Oct '09

06 Oct '09

Dear all, I have a question to your kindest attention. We were trying to run today phenix on distant cluster (phenix-1.3) with next command line *phenix.autobuild data=data.mtz solvent_fraction=0.6 ps_in_rebuild=True \ input_pdb_file=model.pdb maps_only=True* Autobuild failed with these last lines in the Autobuild_run_1_1.log Failed to carry out AutoBuild_multiple_models: *Sorry, subprocess failed...message is: ******************************************************************************** phenix.autobuild \ write_run_directory_to_file=/home/btn1/tn_phenix/refine/final_loops/with_ncs_H/no_wateradd_noH/prime_switch/AutoBuild_run_1_/TEMP0/INFO_FILE_1 Reading effective parameters from /home/btn1/tn_phenix/refine/final_loops/with_ncs_H/no_wateradd_noH/prime_switch/AutoBuild_run_1_/TEMP0/PARAMS_1.eff Sending output to AutoBuild_run_1_/AutoBuild_run_1_1.log ******************************************************************************** Failed to carry out AutoBuild_build_cycle: failure ******************************************************************************** * in Autobuild_run_1_/TEMP0/Autobuild_run_1_/Autobuold_run_1_1.log the failure message is next: *Columns of data in AutoBuild_run_1_/TEMP0/TEMP.mtz: H K L FMODEL PHIFMODEL FP SIGFP 2FOFCWT PH2FOFCWT child process stderr output: command: 'AutoBuild_run_1_/TEMP0/temporary.com' resolve_giant: Error in label assignments Failed to run resolve ---------------------------------- TRIED resolve_giant ...but not OK ******************************************************************************** Failed to carry out AutoBuild_build_cycle: failure ******************************************************************************** * There are temporary.com and temporary.com.bak in the folder and there is only difference, except that in temporary.com there is "labin FP=FP FC=FMODEL PHIC=PH2FOFCWT FWT=2FOFCWT" in temporary.com.bak there is "labin FP=FP FC=FMODEL PHIC=PHI2FOFCWT FWT=2FOFCWT" Prime_and_switch.log file ends with *Reading SG information from TEMP.mtz Space group name: P21212 Point group: 222 Space group number : 18 Symmetry operators: 4 Number of columns: 9 H K L FMODEL PHIFMODEL FP SIGFP 2FOFCWT PH2FOFCWT *** Warning From LRASSN : User input label PHI2FOFCWT does not match any file label  resolve_giant: Error in label assignments </pre>   </html> * I checked created TEMP.mtz, it looks like: * Column Labels : H K L FMODEL PHIFMODEL FP SIGFP 2FOFCWT PH2FOFCWT So the question is next: Why is prime_and_switch process looking for the "right" labels (PH2FOFCWT), which are present in previously created TEMP.mtz file, but sees them wrong (PHI2FOFCWT)? Is this possible that we have somewhat wrong inputs or is there problem with the set of commands? Sincerely, Tanya * *

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log file
by Young-Jin Cho 06 Oct '09

06 Oct '09

Hi, While I refining I found the following is included in the .log file. I am using different pdb files. When I looked up residue number 175, it looked ok to me. Do you guys have any idea how to deal with this? Conformer: "C" Number of residues, atoms: 175, 1321 Classifications: {'peptide': 175} Link IDs: {'PTRANS': 14, 'TRANS': 159, 'PCIS': 1} Chain breaks: 24 Unresolved chain link angles: 14 Unresolved chain link dihedrals: 28 Unresolved chain link planarities: 14 Unresolved non-hydrogen bonds: 50 Unresolved non-hydrogen angles: 60 Unresolved non-hydrogen dihedrals: 26 Unresolved non-hydrogen chiralities: 8 Planarities with less than four sites: {'GLU:plan': 1, 'ARG:plan': 1} Unresolved non-hydrogen planarities: 9 bond proxies already assigned to first conformer: 1313 Thanks in advance, Young-Jin

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PHENIX 1.5 and exploding residues
by Antony Oliver 06 Oct '09

06 Oct '09

Dear all, I am currently refining a structure using PHENIX 1.5-3 and have encountered some problems with "exploding residues". I have attached a image (small PNG file) highlighting the problem. Has anyone had a similar experience? Or know the solution to the problem? Change weighting in favour of geometry ? Many thanks, Tony Oliver . The Institute of Cancer Research: Royal Cancer Hospital, a charitable Company Limited by Guarantee, Registered in England under Company No. 534147 with its Registered Office at 123 Old Brompton Road, London SW7 3RP. This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer and network.

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question about constrain ncs
by crystallogrphy 06 Oct '09

06 Oct '09

Hi, I am refining a 3.6A data set. There are 5 monomers per asymetric unit. I am considering to use constrained NCS to increase the ratio of reflection/parameter. Does phenix.refine has a script to put contrained ncs or I just use simple_ncs_from_pdb to determine the best NCS?

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Latest phenix from command line
by Graeme Winter 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

Hi Folks, I'm one of those people who use the command-line for everything, and I just found my "phenix mad spell" phenix.autosol sites=8 atom_type=Se infl.data=TS03_12287_free.mtz \ infl.f_prime=-9.9 infl.f_double_prime=3.9 low.data=TS03_12287_free.mtz \ low.f_prime=-3.3 low.f_double_prime=0.5 \ infl.labels='F_INFL SIGF_INFL DANO_INFL SIGDANO_INFL' \ low.labels='F_LREM SIGF_LREM DANO_LREM SIGDANO_LREM' no longer appears to work: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/dls_sw/apps/phenix/1.5-2c/phenix-1.5-2/phenix/phenix/command_line/autosol.py", line 585, in <module> run_autosol=run_autosol(args=sys.argv[1:]) File "/dls_sw/apps/phenix/1.5-2c/phenix-1.5-2/phenix/phenix/autosol/wizard_command_line.py", line 300, in __init__ self.Sorry(line) File "/dls_sw/apps/phenix/1.5-2c/phenix-1.5-2/phenix/phenix/autosol/wizard_command_line.py", line 1238, in Sorry raise AssertionError,e AssertionError: Sorry, unknown file or keyword: infl.data=TS03_12287_free.mtz Possibilities... (use 'phenix.autosol --help all' to get full help): general.data_quality=TS03_12287_free.mtz data=TS03_12287_free.mtz Looked at the doc and saw: MAD dataset The inputs for a MAD dataset need to specify f_prime and f_double_prime for each wavelength. You can use a parameters file "mad.eff" to input MAD data. You run it with "phenix.autosol mad.eff". Here is an example of a parameters file for a MAD dataset. You can set many additional parameters as well (see the list at the end of this document). autosol { seq_file = seq.dat sites = 2 atom_type = Se wavelength { data = peak.sca lambda = .9798 f_prime = -8.0 f_double_prime = 4.5 } wavelength { data = inf.sca lambda = .9792 f_prime = -9.0 f_double_prime = 1.5 } So I make mad.eff from information above, then -bash-3.2$ phenix.autosol mad.eff Traceback (most recent call last): File "/dls_sw/apps/phenix/1.5-2c/phenix-1.5-2/phenix/phenix/command_line/autosol.py", line 585, in <module> run_autosol=run_autosol(args=sys.argv[1:]) File "/dls_sw/apps/phenix/1.5-2c/phenix-1.5-2/phenix/phenix/autosol/wizard_command_line.py", line 155, in __init__ self.process_wizard_params(args) File "/dls_sw/apps/phenix/1.5-2c/phenix-1.5-2/phenix/phenix/command_line/autosol.py", line 562, in process_wizard_params self.Sorry("Unrecognized file or keyword: "+str(arg)) File "/dls_sw/apps/phenix/1.5-2c/phenix-1.5-2/phenix/phenix/autosol/wizard_command_line.py", line 1238, in Sorry raise AssertionError,e AssertionError: Unrecognized file or keyword: mad.eff As listed in the instructions. Any clues, anyone? Many thanks in advance, Graeme

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PHENIX parallel computing?
by Joe Krahn 03 Oct '09

03 Oct '09

A parallel version of PHENIX was discussed before. I know that parallelization of refinement is difficult, and probably not worth the effort when there is still a lot of function/methods work. However, running parallel independent tasks could pay off without a lot of work. For example, optimization of WXU and WXC can spawn multiple tasks with different test weights. Annealing tasks could also run multiple jobs, and pick the best result, or even merge results based on real-space fit analysis. Joe Krahn

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Does PHENIX exclude Rfree reflections in maps?
by Joe Krahn 02 Oct '09

02 Oct '09

Does PHENIX exclude R-free reflections when computing maps? IMHO, it is bad to use test reflections in maps, or anywhere else other than computing R-free, but opinions vary. If some people still want test reflections in maps, maybe it could be an option. Thanks, Joe Krahn

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installing phenix 1.5-2
by Tirumala Kumar Chowdary 02 Oct '09

02 Oct '09

Hi, My 1.5-2 build installation is failing with this error 'installing binary components making directory build-binary/intel-linux-2.6-x86_64/beryl/tmp/binary gzip: /nfs/home/chowdary/Download/phenix-installer-1.5-2/bundles/bundle-1.5-2-intel-linux-2.6-x86_64.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated finding installed versions finding binary versions cat: build/intel-linux-2.6-x86_64/version: No such file or directory no pre-existing binary components detected installing new binary package configuring PHENIX components Error configuring: see /nfs/home/chowdary/Download/phenix-installer-1.5-2/build-binary/intel-linux-2.6-x86_64/beryl/log/binary.log for details' and the log file shows this error. /bin/tar: Unexpected EOF in archive /bin/tar: Unexpected EOF in archive /bin/tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now /nfs/home/chowdary/Download/phenix-installer-1.5-2/bin/install-from-binary: line 349: /nfs/home/chowdary/phenix/phenix-1.5-2/build/intel-linux-2.6-x86_64/base/bin/python: No such file or directory. Earlier builds (1.4.175) are installing and running fine on the same machine. Help please.. Tirumal

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RESOLVE question
by Peter Grey 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

Hello, We use iterative cycles of manual building (coot) - refinement (phenix) - density modification to improve maps for the next building step (RESOLVE). Should we use FMODEL,PHIFMODEL from phenix or FCALC,PHIFCALC in the input to RESOLVE. MODEL structure factors are closer to experimental ones but are they better for density modification purposes ? I think that if the program uses , as in DM, only Fobs and phases to calculate the maps then PHIFCALC is better (no contribution of solvent) but if the programs calculates 2Fo-Fc maps then FMODEL,PHIFMODEL is better since it was shown that these maps are beter when bulk solvent correction is used. Could you please comment whether this reasoning is correct and give information as to which is the case in resolve. Thanks, -- Peter

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Re: [phenixbb] refining sugars
by Jose M Casasnovas 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

Dear Ralf. I just solved the problem with the sugar refinement. Somehow the way the BETA1-4 cif defines the link is in the reverse order to the NAG-ASN cif link (at least to way I was used to do it). In the NAG-ASN cif, residue_selection_1 in the phenix.refine input must be the NAG and residue_selection_2 the ASN, such as I was used to do in CNS. However, the BETA1-4 cifs follows the opposite way: residue_selection_1 must be the first sugar residue (linked through O4) and residue_selection_2 the second sugar (linked through the C1), which is the most distant residue to the Asn. Thanks so much for your help and to all who sent comments and suggestions. Jose M Casasnovas -- Centro Nacional de Biotecnología (lab. B16) CSIC, Campus UAM Darwin 3 28049 Madrid Spain Ph. 34 915854917(8) Fax. 34 915854506 email: jcasasnovas(a)cnb.csic.es

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Re: [phenixbb] refining sugars
by Engin Ozkan 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

I just answered Jose's question on this yesterday. The reason you are having trouble is that there is no NAG-NAG link. It is a BETA1-4. Read the post to see what data_link names are allowed, and use them for your sugars. Below is a copy-paste of my post from yesterday: >That's because there is no such data link as NAG-NAG-B-D. Instead, you >should use a BETA1-4 link. This is similar to what CNS used, if you are >familiar with that (I think it was B14 in CNS). >If you want to know where all the phenix link definitions are, type > >phenix.where_mon_lib_list_cif > >and read the file that's listed. > >It is good to read this to know which residue selection is selection_1 >and which is selection_2. In it you'll see this or something like this. > >data_link_BETA1-4 ># >loop_ >_chem_link_bond.link_id >_chem_link_bond.atom_1_comp_id >_chem_link_bond.atom_id_1 >_chem_link_bond.atom_2_comp_id >_chem_link_bond.atom_id_2 >_chem_link_bond.type >_chem_link_bond.value_dist >_chem_link_bond.value_dist_esd > BETA1-4 1 O4 2 C1 single 1.439 0.020 >loop_ >_chem_link_angle.link_id >_chem_link_angle.atom_1_comp_id >_chem_link_angle.atom_id_1 >_chem_link_angle.atom_2_comp_id >_chem_link_angle.atom_id_2 >_chem_link_angle.atom_3_comp_id >_chem_link_angle.atom_id_3 >_chem_link_angle.value_angle >_chem_link_angle.value_angle_esd > BETA1-4 1 C4 1 O4 2 C1 108.700 3.000 > BETA1-4 1 O4 2 C1 2 O5 112.300 3.000 > BETA1-4 1 O4 2 C1 2 C2 109.470 3.000 > BETA1-4 1 O4 2 C1 2 H1 109.470 3.000 >loop_ >_chem_link_tor.link_id >_chem_link_tor.id >_chem_link_tor.atom_1_comp_id >_chem_link_tor.atom_id_1 >_chem_link_tor.atom_2_comp_id >_chem_link_tor.atom_id_2 >_chem_link_tor.atom_3_comp_id >_chem_link_tor.atom_id_3 >_chem_link_tor.atom_4_comp_id >_chem_link_tor.atom_id_4 >_chem_link_tor.value_angle >_chem_link_tor.value_angle_esd >_chem_link_tor.period > BETA1-4 BETA_1 1 O4 2 C1 2 C2 2 C3 0.00 20.0 1 > BETA1-4 BETA_2 1 C4 1 O4 2 C1 2 C2 0.00 20.0 1 > BETA1-4 BETA_3 1 C3 1 C4 1 O4 2 C1 0.00 20.0 1 >loop_ >_chem_link_chir.link_id >_chem_link_chir.atom_centre_comp_id >_chem_link_chir.atom_id_centre >_chem_link_chir.atom_1_comp_id >_chem_link_chir.atom_id_1 >_chem_link_chir.atom_2_comp_id >_chem_link_chir.atom_id_2 >_chem_link_chir.atom_3_comp_id >_chem_link_chir.atom_id_3 >_chem_link_chir.volume_sign > BETA1-4 2 C1 1 O4 2 O5 2 C2 positiv > >Engin On 9/30/09 10:56 AM, Tirumala Kumar Chowdary wrote: > Thanks for the reply, > > here is part of the log file, which shows the parameter input for nag > refinement > > > Monomer Library directory: > "/usr/local/phenix/phenix-1.4-125/chem_data/mon_lib" > Total number of atoms: 6260 > apply_cif_link: > data_link: NAG-ASN > mod_id_1: DEL-O1 > mod_id_2: DEL-HD22 > residue_selection_1: chain C and resname NAG and resid 1670 > residue_selection_2: chain A and resname ASN and resid 670 > apply_cif_link: > data_link: NAG-ASN > mod_id_1: DEL-O1 > mod_id_2: DEL-HD22 > residue_selection_1: chain C and resname NAG and resid 1784 > residue_selection_2: chain A and resname ASN and resid 784 > apply_cif_link: > data_link: NAG-NAG > residue_selection_1: chain C and resname NAG and resid 1784 > residue_selection_2: chain C and resname NAG and resid 1785 > Number of models: 1 > Model: "" > Number of chains: 3 > Chain: "A" > Number of atoms: 5125 > Number of conformers: 1 > Conformer: "" > Number of residues, atoms: 681, 5125 > > I am presuming that it read what ever it needs to make the ASN-NAG > bonds and NAG-NAG bonds. > > what am I missing here ? > > Tirumal > > > Quoting Engin Ozkan<eozkan(a)stanford.edu>: > >> You don't need to create cif files; phenix has them. NAG is definitely >> there, and you can have two NAGs linked by any biologically-relevant >> glycosidic bond you want. You need to define the links, however. I think >> posting the cif_link.params may get you more help. >> >> Engin >> >> On 9/30/09 8:49 AM, Tirumala Kumar Chowdary wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> My question is related to the 'refining sugars in phenix' questions >>> that have been appearing on the bb for the last two days. >>> >>> I am trying to refine my NAGs and somehow phenix is ignoring the sugars >>> in my structure. Neither it is making a bond between my ASN and NAG nor >>> NAG-NAG bond. My nag-nag.cif and cif_link.params are read properly, >>> though. >>> >>> I am using in version 1.4.125 still. Is this the problem ? Does >>> upgrading to any of the later build will help ? >>> >>> >>> Tirumal >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> phenixbb mailing list >>> phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org >>> http://www.phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb >>> >> >> >> -- >> Engin Özkan >> Post-doctoral Scholar >> Howard Hughes Medical Institute >> Dept of Molecular and Cellular Physiology >> 279 Campus Drive, Beckman Center B173 >> Stanford School of Medicine >> Stanford, CA 94305 >> ph: (650)-498-7111 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> phenixbb mailing list >> phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org >> http://www.phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb >> > > > -- Engin Özkan Post-doctoral Scholar Howard Hughes Medical Institute Dept of Molecular and Cellular Physiology 279 Campus Drive, Beckman Center B173 Stanford School of Medicine Stanford, CA 94305 ph: (650)-498-7111

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GUI fonts
by Frank von Delft 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

Hi, I've just been poking around the new GUIs - neat!! But the font is absolutely enormous, which is terrifically annoying. Where do I change it? (I didn't see it in the preferences.) Cheers phx

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refining sugars
by Tirumala Kumar Chowdary 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

Hi, My question is related to the 'refining sugars in phenix' questions that have been appearing on the bb for the last two days. I am trying to refine my NAGs and somehow phenix is ignoring the sugars in my structure. Neither it is making a bond between my ASN and NAG nor NAG-NAG bond. My nag-nag.cif and cif_link.params are read properly, though. I am using in version 1.4.125 still. Is this the problem ? Does upgrading to any of the later build will help ? Tirumal

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N-linked glycans in phenix.refine
by Jose Casasnovas 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

Dear Phenix users. I am trying to refine N-linked glycans in phenix. The Asn-NAG link appears to be recognize by the program, but the NAG-NAG link is not. I guess the cif_link must be missing. Monomer Library directory: "/home/soft/phenix/phenix-1.4-3/ext_ref_files/mon_lib" Total number of atoms: 8947 apply_cif_link: data_link: NAG-ASN mod_id_1: DEL-O1 mod_id_2: DEL-HD22 residue_selection_1: chain N and resname NAG and resid 5161 residue_selection_2: chain E and resname ASN and resid 516 apply_cif_link: data_link: NAG-NAG-B-D Sorry: Missing CIF link: data_link_NAG-NAG-B-D Please check for spelling errors or specify the file name with the link as an additional argument. How can I get the required cif_link file and where to place it?? Any suggestion. Thanks. Jose

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Phenix version 1.5 Released
by Paul Adams 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

The Phenix developers are pleased to announce that version 1.5 of Phenix is now available. Binary installers for Linux, and Mac OSX platforms are available at the download site: http://phenix-online.org/download/ Just some of the new features in this version (1.5-2) are: - A new Graphical User Interface (accessed by typing phenix at the command line) - Two-way communication with Coot - The latest version of Phaser (2.2) - A development version of torsion angle dynamics available in phenix.refine - Real space refinement in phenix.refine - New GUIs for Autosol, AutoBuild and LigandFit wizards - A number of MolProbity and other validation tools now available - Fast loop building with phenix.fit_loops - Improved ligand geometry generation with phenix.elbow - Inclusion of Nicholas Sauter's LABELIT system for autoindexing and more For a full list of changes see: http://www.phenix-online.org/documentation/CHANGES Full documentation is available here: http://www.phenix-online.org/documentation/ There is a Phenix bulletin board: http://www.phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb/ Please consult the installer README file or online documentation for installation instructions. Direct questions and problem reports to the bulletin board or: help(a)phenix-online.org and bugs(a)phenix-online.org Commercial users interested in obtaining access to Phenix should visit the Phenix website for information about the Phenix Industrial Consortium. The development of Phenix is principally funded by the National Institute of General Medical Sciences (NIH) under grant P01-GM063210. We also acknowledge the generous support of the members of the Phenix Industrial Consortium. -- Paul Adams Acting Division Director, Physical Biosciences Division, Lawrence Berkeley Lab Adjunct Professor, Department of Bioengineering, U.C. Berkeley Vice President for Technology, the Joint BioEnergy Institute Head, Berkeley Center for Structural Biology Building 64, Room 248 Tel: 1-510-486-4225, Fax: 1-510-486-5909 http://cci.lbl.gov/paul Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory 1 Cyclotron Road BLDG 64R0121 Berkeley, CA 94720, USA. Executive Assistant: Patty Jimenez [ PAJimenez(a)lbl.gov ] [ 1-510-486-7963 ] --

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anomalous difference map demonstration in pymol
by crystallogrphy 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

Hi, I have used anomalous data to do refinement. The crystal diffracts to 3.5A. The resulting mtz file shows good anomalous density around the heavy atoms. Now I want to demonstrate the density in Pymol. Does anyone know how to generate the map use the map file in MTZ format in Pymol? Thanks!

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transfering R-free flags
by Tirumala Kumar Chowdary 28 Sep '09

28 Sep '09

Hi, I am trying to refine my model against a higher resolution file. I want to transfer my R-free flags generated by phenix.refine from the lower resolution mtz to the higher resolution file. Is there a way to transfer the R-free flags in Phenix ? If not, where can I find the mtz file from my earlier refinement with R-free flags generated ? Does phenix.refine generate this file and save it for me somewhere ? Thanks Tirumal

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NCS restraints with TLS
by Joe Krahn 28 Sep '09

28 Sep '09

I am using NCS restraints with TLS. It seems that the NCS B-factor restraints are applied to the overall B-factor, rather than just the non-TLS part. Is this correct? In my structure, the disorder varies quite a bit among equivalent molecules, and I don't get good results unless the b_factor_weight is about 1e-3 or less. I am experimenting with NCS restraints in CNS, where each pair of coordinates allows an LSQ fit of B-factor scale and offset to be excluded from the B restraints. It would probably work even better with TLS, which CNS does not have. I don't know if anyone has tried this, but I think that overall molecular B-factor differences are fairly common. Joe Krahn

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