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Re: phenixbb Digest, Vol 232, Issue 13 (out of office)
by Elisabeth Laurent 13 Apr '25

13 Apr '25

Thank you for your e-mail. I am out of office until April 23rd, 2025. I will respond to your e-mail as soon as possible upon my return. For urgent matters please contact: bmca(a)boku.ac.at Thank you for your understanding. With kind regards, Elisabeth Laurent >>> <phenixbb-request(a)phenix-online.org> 13.4.25 20:51 >>> Send phenixbb mailing list submissions to phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to phenixbb-request(a)phenix-online.org You can reach the person managing the list at phenixbb-owner(a)phenix-online.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of phenixbb digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Question about geometry outliers in RealSpaceRefine (Pavel Afonine) 2. Re: DEN restraints and ECHT disorder models (Tom Burnley - STFC UKRI) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 11:47:11 -0700 From: Pavel Afonine <pafonine(a)lbl.gov> Subject: [phenixbb] Re: Question about geometry outliers in RealSpaceRefine To: Kevin M Jude <kjude(a)stanford.edu>, "phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org" <phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org> Message-ID: <7968370b-7470-4fe4-aaf1-052661202ef9(a)lbl.gov> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------YozFq5Oyt0xmhpmEfOqMdIo0" Hi Kevin, could you please send me the file (off list)? Thanks! Pavel On 4/11/25 09:34, Kevin M Jude wrote: > > After a recent RealSpaceRefine run, the Geometry Restraints tab in the > gui reports that I have two bond angle outliers > 4 sigma, but only > lists one of them: > > D 180 MET N, D 180 MET CA, D 180 MET CB 114.170 109.342 4.2 > > So I check the logfile for the job and see: > > Bond angle restraints: 12582 > > Sorted by residual: > > angle pdb=" N MET D 180 " > > pdb=" CA MET D 180 " > > pdb=" CB MET D 180 " > > ideal model delta sigma weight residual > > 114.17 109.34 4.83 1.14e+00 7.69e-01 1.79e+01 > > angle pdb=" CA LEU B 79 " > > pdb=" CB LEU B 79 " > > pdb=" CG LEU B 79 " > > ideal model delta sigma weight residual > > 116.30 127.81 -11.51 3.50e+00 8.16e-02 1.08e+01 > > angle pdb=" C ASP B 333 " > > pdb=" N SER B 334 " > > pdb=" CA SER B 334 " > > ideal model delta sigma weight residual > > 122.74 127.19 -4.45 1.44e+00 4.82e-01 9.54e+00 > > angle pdb=" C GLN D 167 " > > pdb=" N ARG D 168 " > > pdb=" CA ARG D 168 " > > ideal model delta sigma weight residual > > 121.48 126.80 -5.32 2.04e+00 2.40e-01 6.80e+00 > > angle pdb=" C ASP B 163 " > > pdb=" N THR B 164 " > > pdb=" CA THR B 164 " > > ideal model delta sigma weight residual > > 123.47 127.30 -3.83 1.53e+00 4.27e-01 6.27e+00 > > ValidationCryoEM returns identical results except the gui says only > one > 4-sigma outlier (at //D/Met180/). PDB Validation reports only > the outlier at //B/Leu79/, which does have the largest sigma in the > above log. > > My questions are: > > 1. Why does the gui report two 4-sigma outliers but only show one? > 2. Why do the sigmas in the log file not correspond to the sigmas in > the gui? > > Best wishes > > Kevin > > -- > > Kevin Jude, PhD > > Structural Biology Research Specialist, Garcia Lab > > Howard Hughes Medical Institute > > Stanford University School of Medicine > > Beckman B177, 279 Campus Drive, Stanford CA 94305 > > > _______________________________________________ > phenixbb mailing list --phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org > To unsubscribe send an email tophenixbb-leave(a)phenix-online.org > Unsubscribe: phenixbb-leave@%(host_name)s

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DEN restraints and ECHT disorder models
by Roberto Battistutta 13 Apr '25

13 Apr '25

Dear all, From which version of Phenix are the DEN restraints and ECHT disorder models implemented in the ensemble refinement (as described in Ploscariu, N., Burnley, T., Gros, P. & Pearce, N. M. (2021). Improving sampling of crystallographic disorder in ensemble refinement. Acta Cryst. D77, 1357-1364)? Thank you very much, Roberto. Roberto Battistutta Associate Professor Department of Chemical Sciences University of Padua via Marzolo 1, 35131 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.827.5262 fax. +39.049.827.5829 roberto.battistutta(a)unipd.it

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Question about geometry outliers in RealSpaceRefine
by Kevin M Jude 11 Apr '25

11 Apr '25

After a recent RealSpaceRefine run, the Geometry Restraints tab in the gui reports that I have two bond angle outliers > 4 sigma, but only lists one of them: D 180 MET N, D 180 MET CA, D 180 MET CB 114.170 109.342 4.2 So I check the logfile for the job and see: Bond angle restraints: 12582 Sorted by residual: angle pdb=" N MET D 180 " pdb=" CA MET D 180 " pdb=" CB MET D 180 " ideal model delta sigma weight residual 114.17 109.34 4.83 1.14e+00 7.69e-01 1.79e+01 angle pdb=" CA LEU B 79 " pdb=" CB LEU B 79 " pdb=" CG LEU B 79 " ideal model delta sigma weight residual 116.30 127.81 -11.51 3.50e+00 8.16e-02 1.08e+01 angle pdb=" C ASP B 333 " pdb=" N SER B 334 " pdb=" CA SER B 334 " ideal model delta sigma weight residual 122.74 127.19 -4.45 1.44e+00 4.82e-01 9.54e+00 angle pdb=" C GLN D 167 " pdb=" N ARG D 168 " pdb=" CA ARG D 168 " ideal model delta sigma weight residual 121.48 126.80 -5.32 2.04e+00 2.40e-01 6.80e+00 angle pdb=" C ASP B 163 " pdb=" N THR B 164 " pdb=" CA THR B 164 " ideal model delta sigma weight residual 123.47 127.30 -3.83 1.53e+00 4.27e-01 6.27e+00 ValidationCryoEM returns identical results except the gui says only one > 4-sigma outlier (at //D/Met180/). PDB Validation reports only the outlier at //B/Leu79/, which does have the largest sigma in the above log. My questions are: 1. Why does the gui report two 4-sigma outliers but only show one? 2. Why do the sigmas in the log file not correspond to the sigmas in the gui? Best wishes Kevin -- Kevin Jude, PhD Structural Biology Research Specialist, Garcia Lab Howard Hughes Medical Institute Stanford University School of Medicine Beckman B177, 279 Campus Drive, Stanford CA 94305

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Simulate map from model
by Ricardo Righetto 09 Apr '25

09 Apr '25

Hi, Apologies if I'm missing something obvious, but I was not able to find this in the documentation: is there a PHENIX tool for simulating Coulomb potential maps (aka "cryo-EM maps") from atomic models? I'm looking for something like the molmap <https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/molmap.html> command in ChimeraX, but more accurate. One such alternative is the simulate program from cisTEM, but I figured PHENIX might also have something? Thank you! -- Ricardo Diogo Righetto

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Differential density peaks and hydrophobic residues
by Lucas Souza 04 Apr '25

04 Apr '25

Hi everyone, I am refining a ~3A structure using phenix 1.21.2-5419. I am at the final stages of the refinement but I am seeing some positive density on some hydrophobic residues (mainly Ile and Leu) together with a negative density around those residues (image attached). At first, I guessed that might be related to solvent mask, so I turned on optimize_mask. That did not solve the issue, although slightly decreased R values. Diffraction data was processed with autoproc+staraniso and does not seem to be twinned (normal intensity stats + map deteriorates if twinning refinement is applied). Does anyone have a guess about that? Best, Lucas -- Lucas Souza dos Santos Laboratório de Biologia Estrutural Aplicada (LBEA) Departamento de Microbiologia Instituto de Ciências Biomédicas II - USP Cidade Universitária - São Paulo - SP CEP 05508-000

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CBMS Structural Biology Workbench - May 27 through 30, 2025 - registration deadline approaching
by Stojanoff, Vivian 03 Apr '25

03 Apr '25

Dear Colleagues, The CBMS Structural Biology Workbench will take place May 27 through 30, 2025. The first two days, May 27 and 28, are dedicated to MX and the following days May 29 and 30 to Solution Scattering and X-ray Footprintig. This is an IN-PERSON workshop. DEADLINE to REGISTER APRIL 15 https://www.bnl.gov/cbmsworkbench/ PROGRAM Macromolecular Crystallography May 27 - MX data collection on participants samples and pre-analysis May 28 - Phenix workshop "The Phenix workshop will focus on crystallographic refinement using phenix.refine. The first lecture will introduce major features and best practices of reciprocal space refinement, followed by a basic tutorial demonstrating how to run phenix.refine with default options. The second lecture will cover strategies for low-resolution refinement, including the use of secondary structure restraints and reference models. Participants who so desire will have the opportunity to work on their own data with Phenix developers available to answer questions—on phenix.refine or any other Phenix tools in the afternoon. Solution Scattering - SAXS & Xray Footprinting - XFP May 29 - Introduction to SAXS & LIX; Data collection on participants samples May 30 morning - SAXS data analysis software May 30 afternoon - Introduction to XFP and hands-on tutorial Questions can be directed to Vivian Stojanoff (stojanof(a)bnl.gov).

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for autobuild full sequence?
by James Holton 03 Apr '25

03 Apr '25

Hey all, Don't worry, nothing is funny today. I have a real question: Is there a way to force phenix.autobuild to build in the entire sequence? As in: the full length of the actual molecule that is in the crystal, such as what is supposed to go into SEQRES, regardless of "visible" density? I am trying to come up with a pipeline for prepping MD simulations of protein crystals. It seems proper to me that the molecule being simulated should be the actual molecular species, disordered bits an all. However, we don't seem to have good technology for building protein chains into "nothingness". Yes, I know Alphafold is a thing, but it is rubbish at clashes in the context of a crystal. I mean, I could write something, but does this tool already exist? Cheers, and happy Tuesday, -James Holton MAD Scientist

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CloudFlare and Spain
by Billy Poon 31 Mar '25

31 Mar '25

Hi everyone, Does anyone in Spain have issues reaching the Phenix website ( https://phenix-online.org)? Our website is behind CloudFlare and it looks like, periodically, some CloudFlare IP addresses are blocked in Spain due to some piracy issues. Thanks! -- Billy K. Poon Research Scientist, Molecular Biophysics and Integrated Bioimaging Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 1 Cyclotron Road, M/S 33R0345 Berkeley, CA 94720 Fax: (510) 486-5909 Web: https://phenix-online.org

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IBA2025 - May 5&6 2025 - Cambridge MA
by Chip Lesburg 30 Mar '25

30 Mar '25

The Industrial Biostructures America conference will take place on May 5 & 6, 2025 at the MassBioHub in Cambridge MA. The conference was launched in 2018 to bring the industry-based structural biology community together for two days of presentations and networking. This is a great place for industrial structural biologists, as well as those who are industry-curious. The conference will feature keynote presentations by: * Dr. Stephen K. Burley, Director RCSB Protein Data Bank and Rutgers University Professor * Dr. James Fraser, Professor and Chair Department of Bioengineering and Therapeutics Sciences at UCSF * Dr. Stephen Harrison, Professor Harvard Medical School/Investigator Howard Hughes Medical Institute * Dr. Mark Murcko, Founding CSO/Board Member at Dewpoint Therapeutics and Relay Therapeutics Conference information is available at https://industrialbiostructuresamerica.org along with guidelines for submitting abstracts for scientific presentations during the conference. Scientific sessions will cover the following topics: * Structural Biology of Targeted Protein Degradation: Glues, TCs & DUBs * Developing Fragments to Drugs: Challenges & Victories * Molecular Dynamics and Allostery - Bridging Experimental and Computational Drug Discovery * Membrane Protein Structure Guided Design * CryoEM Synergies with Molecular Modeling and Computational Models * Biologics (Antibody Design & ADCs) * AI/ML in Structural Biology and Drug Discovery * Hot Topics (SBDD, Kinases, RNA) The abstract deadline is April 1. Space is limited so if you're interested, please register soon. Contact us at iba(a)proteros.com<mailto:[email protected]> for information regarding Exhibitor and Sponsor opportunities [cid:logo_c70edd4a-e7f0-4d54-be6f-d03f53f0c961.png] Charles Lesburg Vice President, Structural Biology odysseytx.com<https://protect.checkpoint.com/v2/___https:/odysseytx.com/___.YzJ1Om9keXNzZ…> This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. ODYSSEY THERAPEUTICS, INC. ("ODYSSEY THERAPEUTICS") reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. ODYSSEY THERAPEUTICS cannot be committed by this e-mail or warrant the accuracy or validity of any information presented. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender.

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can not launch phenix gui
by lzhlizehou＠outlook.com 29 Mar '25

29 Mar '25

Dears, I am using Ubuntu 24.04 and have successfully installed phenix-1.21.2-5419. However, when I attempt to launch the GUI by running the phenix command, it fails with the following error: Error in sys.excepthook: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/phenix-1.21.2-5419/modules/phenix/wxGUI2/App.py", line 961, in _excepthook Error.show_exception_dialog(type, value, traceback) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.21.2-5419/modules/phenix/wxGUI2/Error.py", line 76, in show_exception_dialog if (app.bug_timer.IsRunning() is False): AttributeError: 'PhenixApp' object has no attribute 'bug_timer' Original exception was: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/phenix-1.21.2-5419/build/../modules/phenix/wxGUI2/command_line/main.py", line 34, in <module> run(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.21.2-5419/build/../modules/phenix/wxGUI2/command_line/main.py", line 28, in run wxapp = App.PhenixApp(args) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.21.2-5419/modules/phenix/wxGUI2/App.py", line 84, in __init__ wx.App.__init__(self, 0) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.21.2-5419/conda_base/lib/python2.7/site-packages/wx-3.0-gtk2/wx/_core.py", line 8628, in __init__ self._BootstrapApp() File "/usr/local/phenix-1.21.2-5419/conda_base/lib/python2.7/site-packages/wx-3.0-gtk2/wx/_core.py", line 8196, in _BootstrapApp return _core_.PyApp__BootstrapApp(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.21.2-5419/modules/phenix/wxGUI2/App.py", line 118, in OnInit show_splash_screen(timeout=2000) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.21.2-5419/modules/phenix/wxGUI2/App.py", line 1015, in show_splash_screen dlg,-1,citations.format_citation(citations.citations_db.get("phenix"))) File "/usr/local/phenix-1.21.2-5419/conda_base/lib/python2.7/site-packages/wx-3.0-gtk2/wx/_controls.py", line 997, in __init__ _controls_.StaticText_swiginit(self,_controls_.new_StaticText(*args, **kwargs)) UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 40: ordinal not in range(128) Could you kindly advise on how to resolve this issue? I would greatly appreciate your assistance. Looking forward to your reply. Best regards Li

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Call for Abstracts - Combining experimental data with predicted models - Session at the ACA Meeting, July 18-23, 2025
by Christopher Williams 24 Mar '25

24 Mar '25

Dear All, Rakhi Rajan and I are co-chairing the session "Combining experimental data with predicted models for structure determination" session at the 75th American Crystallographic Association Meeting in Lombard, IL (near Chicago) from July 18–23, 2025. It's a great meeting, and we encourage both general attendance and submissions for our session. We welcome abstract submissions for both talks and posters. If you're interested, please submit your abstract at https://www.acameeting2025.com/. Deadlines are fast approaching: March 31 – Deadline for oral abstracts & travel grant applications April 30 – Deadline for poster abstracts We invite contributions of novel methods and pipelines for combining prediction and experiment. We also invite stories of working with predictions and data. Have you gotten into the weeds with AlphaFold? Has structure prediction let you better design an experiment? Or has experimental data revealed an important detail missing from prediction? We want to hear about it! If you're interested in sponsoring our session, please reach out as well. -Christopher Williams ---Richardson Lab, Duke University -Rakhi Rajan ---University of Oklahoma

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Issues with zero B-factor and ADP refinement
by sylee00＠snu.ac.kr 23 Mar '25

23 Mar '25

Dear all, I am encountering issues related to B-factors and ADP refinement in Phenix and would appreciate any insights or suggestions. I am currently working on my first PDB file, but I've noticed that many atoms in the PDB file have a B-factor of 0. As far as I understand, B-factor values are calculated by ADP refinement in Phenix real-space refinement, but even after running real-space refinement (with ADP on in refinement settings), the B-factor remains 0 for many atoms. I am currently using Phenix 1.20 on Windows (Newest version available on window). I also attempted to run Phenix 1.21 on a Linux in other computer, but when ADP refinement is enabled, the process starts normally but halts during the ADP refinement step. So I couldn't test whether the issue is fixed in the newest version. Aside from the B-factor issue, I am also experiencing an inssue related to ADP refinement: When I run real-space refinement with ADP refinement enabled, the process starts normally but halts during the ADP refinement step. According to the log file, other refinement steps proceed without issues, but it fails to progress at the ADP refinement stage. Additionally, when I try to pause the process, I receive a "NoSuchProcess" error, so ADP refinement process may have unexpectedly terminated. At first, I thought it's the issue related to system performance or hardware differences, because adp refinement with this pdb file and identical parameters works on some computer but fails on others (the same version of Phenix). Still it's weird because this issue has occurred unexpectedly, as ADP refinement previously worked in my computer under the same conditions without any problems and also other PDB files run without any problems in my computer. I would appreciate any insights or suggestions on how to resolve this. Thanks

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phenix low resolution refinement strategies
by a131943017＠163.com 20 Mar '25

20 Mar '25

Hi, how do I set the optimization parameters to make free R lower for 3.2Å x-ray crystallography data, or in other words, how do I go about determining whether the optimization strategy is appropriate or not? Questions from a Phenix Beginner.

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seeking help for phenix - coot model building
by tim smith 20 Mar '25

20 Mar '25

Hi everyone, I’m currently working on building a model and have encountered some difficulties with the map-model process. I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could assist me in either helping to build the model or teaching me how to do it. I’m happy to offer a suitable reward for your time and help. Thank you in advance for considering! Regards, Stim

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CSD changes conformation to planar during phenix.refine
by Andrea Smith 20 Mar '25

20 Mar '25

Hi all, I have a structure where I clearly see that one of the cysteines is oxidised. I have modelled CSD instead of CYS and when I do real space refine in Coot, the CSD sits nicely in the density. When I submit the phenix.refine job, I can see that the geometry changes and now the SOOH is planar. I tried to add the CSD.cif from PDB into phenix.refine as restraints, but it doesn't help and during the automatic refinement the geometry is changed to planar again. Anyone experienced same thing? What do I do? Thank you, Andrea

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Trouble with GTP/GDP refinement.
by DIEGO ORTIZ DE ELGUEA LOPEZ DE DICASTILLO 18 Mar '25

18 Mar '25

Dear phenixbb: I'm working with a GTP binding protein and have had some problems running phenix_refine. In my unit cell there are two molecules one with GDP and one with GTP, which I added in Coot(0.9.8). When refining the following error message pops-up : "Fatal problems interpreting model file: Number of atoms with unknown nonbonded energy type symbols:4 Please edit the model file to resolve the problems and/or supply a CIF file with matching restraint definitions, along with apply_cif_modifications and apply_cif_link parameter definitions if necessary". Checking the log file I found that the problem seems to be hydrogen atoms from these ligands Number of atoms with unknown nonbonded energy type symbols: 4 "HETATM 6499 H5' GTP A 501 .*. H " "HETATM 6502 H5'' GTP A 501 .*. H " "HETATM12939 H5' GDP B 501 .*. H " "HETATM12940 H5'' GDP B 501 .*. H " Including the corresponding .CIF files (dowloaded from PDB) did not solve the problem and the same error popped. Since I'm in the initial stages of the refinement I'm running phenix with bindividuals. Could anybody save my day giving me some light into this issue? Cheers, Diego

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.cif file has 'UNK' auth_asym_id
by Kevin M Jude 14 Mar '25

14 Mar '25

I’ve finished refining a structure with three protein chains A, B, C. The pdb file looks ‘normal’ to me, but when I inspect the .cif file written by phenix, the auth_asym_id for chains B and C is ‘UNK’. label_asym_id is correct for all chains. I’m not really sure what the difference is between the auth_ and label_ fields. When I try to perform actions on the .cif file, I get duplicate atom label errors. Here’s a few example lines from the .pdb and .cif files, where auth_asym_id is field 6 and label_asym_id is field 16 ATOM 460 OXT PRO A 59 5.272 55.689 31.481 1.00 52.63 O ANISOU 460 OXT PRO A 59 6541 6212 7244 1448 1260 96 O TER ATOM 461 N ALA B 2 39.292 61.974 39.403 1.00 67.81 N ANISOU 461 N ALA B 2 7118 8729 9916 -1711 -388 2066 N ATOM 460 OXT . PRO A 59 ? 5.27169 55.68852 31.48123 1.000 52.63052 O ? A ? 58 1 ATOM 461 N . ALA UNK 2 ? 39.29207 61.97430 39.40271 1.000 67.80544 N ? B ? 1 1 I’m able to convert the pdb file to a usable cif file using gemmi but wanted to report this weird behavior with phenix 1.21.2_5419. -- Kevin Jude, PhD Structural Biology Research Specialist, Garcia Lab Howard Hughes Medical Institute Stanford University School of Medicine Beckman B177, 279 Campus Drive, Stanford CA 94305

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Pdb validation report via phenix
by Stachowski, Tim 12 Mar '25

12 Mar '25

I’ve always found the phenix.get_pdb_validation tool to be super helpful to gauge where my refinements are relative to the PDB, especially since I work mainly through the command line. But sometime around late last year, the R-free metric stopped being calculated (probably related to “EDS: FAILED”). Is there a way to bring this part of the tool back – or does anyone have a work around they can share? I’m running the command like: phenix.get_pdb_validation_report final-coot-3_refine_001.reflections.cif final-coot-3_refine_001.cif with version: phenix-2.0rc1-5599 Thanks Tim -- Tim Stachowski, PhD St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital ________________________________ Email Disclaimer: www.stjude.org/emaildisclaimer Consultation Disclaimer: www.stjude.org/consultationdisclaimer

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Refining the structure of Ribosome and the system crash
by Rajnandani Kashyap 12 Mar '25

12 Mar '25

Hello Everyone I am trying to run jobs in phenix (real space refinement alignment with the other modelling jobs), but the system always crashes, and refinement doesn't complete. This is the structure of ribosome, and I am wondering what to do to get through the refinement. Is there any specific parameters I should be using. I tried to change the processors to 15 for a 20-processor computer. Let me know. Thanks in advance. FYI: There is no error message in the log. Best, Rajnandani ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rajnandani Kashyap, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology Saint Louis University, Antony Lab 1205 Carr Lane, DRC 451 St. Louis, MO 63104 https://orcid.org/0000-0002-9141-1168 -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Ion placement (anomalous) + occupancy refinement
by miha.pavsic＠fkkt.uni-lj.si 06 Mar '25

06 Mar '25

Hi everyone, I have a dataset from a protein that contains 2 Ca2+ binding sites. The Ca2+ loaded protein was crystallized in the presence of Tb3+ which at one site mostly replaced Ca2+, however at the other site the Tb3+/Ca2+ ratio appears to be much lower (judging from anomalous map; data collected at 1.3 Å wavelength, MR for phasing). The occupancy sum of Tb3+ and Ca2+ at each of the two sites is strongly believed to be 1. While I am aware of the ion placement option in phenix.refine, I am not so sure how to refine the partial occupancies using anomalous data, if possible. Many thanks for any hints, Miha

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AKM in Phenix
by lucas.santosouza＠outlook.com 06 Mar '25

06 Mar '25

Hi everyone, Is there still support for the generation of Average Kick Maps in Phenix? I am using both versions 1.21.2-5419 and the nightly build 2.0rc1-5555. I added kicked=True to the maps.params, but phenix.maps gives me "Unused parameter definitions: maps.map_coefficients.kicked (file "maps.params", line 53)". I also cannot see the "Kicked map" check box in the Create Maps GUI. Cheers, Lucas

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Refine partially occupied ligand in active site containing chloride ions
by Stephen.carr＠rc-harwell.ac.uk 06 Mar '25

06 Mar '25

Dear phenix bb, I am trying to refine a ligand in the active site of my protein where the ligand occupancy is ~50%. The empty active site contains two chloride ions and the residual density from these ions is very prominent when the model is refined with the ligand alone. I would like to refine the model with both the ligand and chloride ions present and have been trying to do this with altLoc flags but so far with no luck. I'm assuming that since the Cl ions more-or-less directly overlay atoms from the ligand positional refinement keeps pushing them out of the density. I'm sure there is a simple way to get around this and I would be grateful for any suggestions. Best wishes, Steve Dr Stephen Carr Research Complex at Harwell (RCaH) Rutherford Appleton Laboratory Harwell Oxford Didcot Oxon OX11 0FA United Kingdom Email stephen.carr(a)rc-harwell.ac.uk tel 01235 567717 This email and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee or an authorized recipient of the addressee, please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to this email. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Research Complex at Harwell. There is no guarantee that this email or any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the message. We use an electronic filing system. Please send electronic versions of documents, unless paper is specifically requested. This email may have a protective marking, for an explanation, please see: http://www.mrc.ac.uk/About/informationandstandards/documentmarking/index.htm.

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Program crash
by F.Xavier Gomis-Rüth 05 Mar '25

05 Mar '25

Dear all, I recently upgraded my MacOS to Sequoia 15.3.1 and found that previous phenix jobs that ran without problem suddenly crashed with the installation (phenix-1-21.2-5419) I had since August 2024. So I installed the latest on-built (phenix-2.0rc-5617) but it nonetheless crashed with the message below. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best, Xavier XGRMAC:cyc3 > Could not import the compiled Python-sander interface.Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/command_line/real_space_refine.py", line 8, in <module> run_program(real_space_refine.Program) File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/iotbx/cli_parser.py", line 980, in run_program task.run() File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/programs/real_space_refine.py", line 206, in run self.rsr_result = rsr_wrappers.run_real_space_refine( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/refinement/rsr/wrappers.py", line 52, in __init__ self._refined = macro_cycle_real_space.run( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/refinement/macro_cycle_real_space.py", line 306, in __init__ self.caller(self.refine_xyz) File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/refinement/macro_cycle_real_space.py", line 321, in caller func() File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/refinement/macro_cycle_real_space.py", line 704, in refine_xyz self.minimization_ncs() File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/refinement/macro_cycle_real_space.py", line 794, in minimization_ncs weight = real_space_weight.run( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/real_space/weight.py", line 84, in __init__ ro.refine( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/real_space/individual_sites.py", line 394, in refine real_space_result = refinery( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/real_space/individual_sites.py", line 233, in __init__ refiner.refine( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/real_space/individual_sites.py", line 126, in refine minimized = mmtbx.refinement.minimization_ncs_constraints.lbfgs( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/minimization_ncs_constraints.py", line 424, in __init__ minimizer = scitbx.lbfgs.run( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/scitbx/lbfgs/__init__.py", line 270, in run return run_c_plus_plus( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/scitbx/lbfgs/__init__.py", line 131, in run_c_plus_plus f, g = target_evaluator.compute_functional_and_gradients() File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/minimization_ncs_constraints.py", line 456, in compute_functional_and_gradients t,g = self.target_and_grads_object.target_and_gradients( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/minimization_ncs_constraints.py", line 242, in target_and_gradients t_restraints, g_restraints = restraints_target_and_grads( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/minimization_ncs_constraints.py", line 110, in restraints_target_and_grads ef = restraints_manager.energies_sites( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/cctbx/geometry_restraints/manager.py", line 1524, in energies_sites pair_proxies = self.pair_proxies( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/cctbx/geometry_restraints/manager.py", line 1427, in pair_proxies check_bonded_distance_cutoff(sites_frac=sites_frac) File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/cctbx/geometry_restraints/manager.py", line 1308, in check_bonded_distance_cutoff raise RuntimeError(msg) RuntimeError: Bond distance > max_reasonable_bond_distance: 59.7151 > 50: distance: 0 - 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Cryo_fit installation
by omar.debei＠unipr.it 28 Feb '25

28 Feb '25

Hi everyone, I was wondering if you could help me with installing cryo_fit on an Ubuntu machine. I followed the instructions here for the cryo_fit installation. Then, I tried to follow this guide to install gromacs_cryo_fit. However, I got stuck at the "Install using a provided script" step. Do I need to install GROMACS separately before proceeding? Any tips would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks, Omar

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Register by Feb. 28th for the West Coast Structural Biology Workshop
by Michael Thompson 21 Feb '25

21 Feb '25

The registration and abstract submission deadlines for the 26th West Coast Structural Biology Workshop are just one week away... Register today, and be a part of this iconic meeting with over 50 years of tradition!! See below for a message about the conference: Dear Colleagues, The registration and abstract submission deadlines for the upcoming West Coast Structural Biology Workshop have been extended! The UPDATED deadlines for registration and abstract submission are Feb. 28, 2025. The meeting is scheduled for March 23-26, 2025 at its traditional location, the Asilomar Conference Center in Pacific Grove, CA. The conference website can be found at: https://wcsbw2025.macromolecules.xyz/. The WCSBW is a bi-annual meeting that showcases the latest methods, developments, and discoveries in structural biology, including X-ray Crystallography, Cryo-EM, NMR, and other methods. We strongly encourage anyone interested in method development and solutions to technical challenges in structural analysis to attend, even if you're not from the west coast. Importantly, the WCSBW aims to highlight the work of trainees, so all oral presentations (except keynotes) will be given by students and postdocs. The 26th edition of this meeting will include: * Opportunities to connect with leaders in the field, exchange practical advice, and stay at the forefront of structural biology advancements. * Exciting oral research presentations and engaging poster sessions. * Inspiring keynote presentations, featuring Prof. Bil Clemons from Caltech, and Dr. Junko Yano from Lawrence Berkeley National Lab. * A 2-hour workshop hosted by the Phenix developers, detailing the use of new tools for structure determination and analysis. * A networking session with scientists from west coast biotech companies for students and postdocs who are entering the job market. * Good company and beautiful views of the pacific ocean! Some details about the conference are included below, and more information is available at our website (see link above). We hope to see you at Asilomar in March! -Mike Thompson (UC Merced) and Alec Follmer (UC Davis) P.S. We ask for your help in sharing this announcement with any students, postdocs, staff, colleagues, collaborators, or friends that might be interested. Thanks! Conference Details: March 23-26, 2025 at Asilomar Conference Center in Pacific Grove, CA Visit the conference website at: https://wcsbw2025.macromolecules.xyz/ Registration: https://book.passkey.com/event/50870517/owner/10793795/home Registration fee is $200, plus lodging fees (meals included). Attendees need to book their lodging accommodations at Asilomar when registering for the conference. Both single and double occupancy rooms are available. If you do not have a roommate and would like us to pair you with one to lower costs, or if you would like to register for the conference and arrange your own accommodations offsite, please contact us at wcsbw2025(a)gmail.com<mailto:[email protected]>. Abstract Submission: https://wcsbw2025.macromolecules.xyz/registration/ All oral presentations at the WCSBW, except for the keynotes, will be given by trainees. Students (undergraduate or graduate) and Postdocs are welcome to submit abstracts for oral presentations. We welcome abstracts for poster presentations from attendees at any career stage. The deadline for submitting abstracts is February 28, 2025, and attendees must be registered for the meeting in order for their abstracts to be considered. Abstracts that are submitted for oral presentations and not selected will be automatically considered as poster abstracts. --- Michael C. Thompson, Ph.D. (he/him) Assistant Professor Dept. of Chemistry and Biochemistry University of California, Merced https://thompsonlab.science<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://thompsonlab.science__;!!LQC6Cpwp!-fv-nQ…>

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