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Off-topic: Hydrogen images
by mohamed noor 21 Apr '15

21 Apr '15

Dear all I will be presenting about protein crystallography to a group of PhD-level physicists and need some images from the community. Would anyone have high-quality images of density maps that show hydrogen atoms at 1. high and ultra-high X-ray resolution (say, about 1.2 A to about 0.5 A) 2. low or medium X-ray resolution (where H atoms are not visible) compared with neutron data (with H). Ideally these images should be from the same protein so that I can show the power of complementary beam source for the diffraction. A side question - what is the community's preference to get deuterated samples? Is it crystal soaking or growing E. coli in deuterium? All contributions will be credited. Thanks.

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citation
by Sneha Rangarajan 21 Apr '15

21 Apr '15

Hello, What is the correct way to cite Phenix MRage? Thanks, Sneha

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Standard settings for map generation in phenix.refine
by Tristan Croll 21 Apr '15

21 Apr '15

Hi all, In the phenix.refine GUI, the default options for the maps auto-generated in Coot include the R-free set in the map coefficients. Is this the best choice? It's fairly natural for the user to immediately inspect/correct their structure using the helpfully-provided Coot window - which, as per a recent discussion thread on this list, can easily lead to over-fitting. I suspect I've been looking at such a case over the last week or so - a mid-3A structure refined in Phenix with an amazingly low Rfree (0.234) and Rfree-Rwork (~0.016), despite clear (albeit non-disastrous) errors in a number of loops, and moderate-poor statistics in structural quality metrics. Tellingly, the Rfree goes up quite substantially upon re-refinement after correcting these issues. If maps generated with the Rfree set included should only ever be used for final display, wouldn't it be better to have them excluded by default? Best regards, Tristan Tristan Croll Lecturer Faculty of Health School of Biomedical Sciences Institute of Health and Biomedical Engineering Queensland University of Technology 60 Musk Ave Kelvin Grove QLD 4059 Australia +61 7 3138 6443 This email and its attachments (if any) contain confidential information intended for use by the addressee and may be privileged. We do not waive any confidentiality, privilege or copyright associated with the email or the attachments. If you are not the intended addressee, you must not use, transmit, disclose or copy the email or any attachments. If you receive this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original email.

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on importing CIF structure factors and cutting out density
by Smith Liu 21 Apr '15

21 Apr '15

Dear All, By importing CIF structure factors of the Phenix graphical interface, I converted a CIF file to a mtz file. But when I tried to cutting out the density by Phenix with the converted mtz file, it request the map labels, which the converted mtz file seems does not have. Will you please let me know how to have the issue settles? Smith

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phenix refinement of cryoEM data
by Ali Malay 17 Apr '15

17 Apr '15

Dear all, I am a relative newcomer to Phenix. I have a large multimeric protein structure docked into an electron density map, and I would like to further refine it by rigid-body refinement using Phenix. Is this a realistic strategy? I have made some attempts, first by converting the .mrc map file to .mtz as outlined here: https://www.phenix-online.org/documentation/reference/map_to_structure_fact… <https://www.phenix-online.org/documentation/reference/map_to_structure_fact…> Then I tried to refine using rigid body refinement in Phenix. However, the program quits but doesn’t really tell me why. Here’s the last part of the log file: Number of unique models: 24 Time building chain proxies: 36.85, per 1000 atoms: 0.26 Number of scatterers: 142296 At special positions: 0 Unit cell: (342, 342, 342, 90, 90, 90) Space group: P 1 (No. 1) Number of sites at special positions: 0 Number of scattering types: 4 Type Number sf(0) S 264 16.00 O 27720 8.00 N 25872 7.00 C 88440 6.00 sf(0) = scattering factor at diffraction angle 0. Writing MTZ file: /Users/xxx/Documents/Phenix/TEST/Refine_1/Test_refine_data.mtz Sorry Can anyone give me any ideas as to what went wrong? Also, is there a better way to do this? Thanks very much in advance!! A.M.

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find difference peaks
by Alejandro Virrueta 15 Apr '15

15 Apr '15

Hello, I'm working on a small project, and need some feedback. I am trying to rebuild methionine side-chains by looking at the difference peaks for a given Fo-Fc map. I envision a process as follows: 1. Delete the MET side-chain of a PDB file 2. Refine structure to get Fo-Fc map 3. Get a list of the peak positions relative to the coordinates of the PDB file I used 4. Filter list by keeping peaks near the MET C alpha/beta PDB coordinate. 5. Try to rebuild side-chain after anchoring the sulfur atom (assuming sulfur is located at the highest peak and within some distance to C beta) What functions should I use to achieve step 3? I am also trying to implement this process within the ringer program (phenix/cctbx_project/mmtbx/command_line/ringer.py). If anyone is familiar with this, what commands would work best within this ringer program? i.e. what functions can operate on difference_map (which is sampled by a point using tricubic_interpolation under 'def sample_angle')? I hope this makes some sense to someone. Thanks! Alex

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reflections file editor
by Almudena Ponce Salvatierra 14 Apr '15

14 Apr '15

Dear all, I would like to merge two datasets containing anomalous signal. If have done so earlier for native data within phenix in the reflections editor by selecting the arrays corresponding to FP and SIGFP and then running the program. However when I try to do so for the anomalous datasets it writes FP SIGFP and FP2 SIGFP2 instead or merging them, so it does with the anomalous signal... so I guess I have basically only one file containing two datasets but not a merged dataset. How can I solve it? Would it be possible, on the other hand, to merge a dataset with anomalous signal with a native one? The intention behind is to extend the resolution to the one of the native data. Best, Almudena -- Almudena Ponce-Salvatierra Macromolecular crystallography and Nucleic acid chemistry Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry Am Fassberg 11 37077 Göttingen Germany

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sugar puckering refinement with phenix refine
by Almudena Ponce Salvatierra 13 Apr '15

13 Apr '15

Dear all, does anyone know how phenix.refine deals with the sugar puckering of an RNA or a DNA strand? Does it refine it? Or does it leave it as it was built? Thank you very much in advance. Best wishes, Almudena -- Almudena Ponce-Salvatierra Macromolecular crystallography and Nucleic acid chemistry Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry Am Fassberg 11 37077 Göttingen Germany

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Link NGA and THR
by Cory Brooks 13 Apr '15

13 Apr '15

Hello! I am refining a structure with O-link glycosylation (GalNAc linked to Thr). Phenix seems to remove the link during refinement. Can anyone suggest a solution that will maintain the bond during refinement? Regards, Cory Cory Brooks,Ph.D.

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elbow-readyset
by Tarek DawoD 13 Apr '15

13 Apr '15

Dear All if i have pdb file for CdCl2, how could i generate cif file (to use later in phenix.refine) from that using readyset or elbow or any other tool.i could not find 3 letter could for CdCl2. COMPND UNNAMED AUTHOR GENERATED BY OPEN BABEL 2.3.1 HETATM 1 CD LIG 1 0.994 8.428 20.546 1.00 0.00 Cd HETATM 2 CL1 LIG 1 -0.441 6.507 20.373 1.00 0.00 Cl HETATM 3 CL2 LIG 1 3.190 7.731 21.231 1.00 0.00 Cl END Thank you for Help.regardsTK_DawoD

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Submit your abstract for the ACA Annual meeting in Philadelphia July 25-29, 2015
by Terwilliger, Thomas Charles 13 Apr '15

13 Apr '15

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pdbtools: how to set the occupancy for an atom selection?
by Alejandro Virrueta 13 Apr '15

13 Apr '15

Hello, I was wondering if someone could show me a way to set the occupancy of a specific set of atoms to 0 using phenix.pdbtools. I noticed here <http://www.phenix-online.org/download/documentation/cci_apps/pdbtools.html#…> that there is no option under modify => occupancies to do an 'atom_selection'. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, Alex

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Deposition question
by mohamed noor 13 Apr '15

13 Apr '15

Dear all I solved my structure using SAD from heme to 2 A and then did molecular replacement with a dataset diffracting to 1.2 A. Do I deposit only the mtz and pdb file from the last refinement run and report the corresponding statistics in 'Table 1'? Should I specify the experimental f' and f'' values? Thanks.

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expermiental sigma or SIGFP of the mtz file
by Smith Lee 13 Apr '15

13 Apr '15

Dear All, Will you please let me know what is the expermiental sigma or SIGFP of the mtz file? If a mtz file lacks the expermiental sigma or SIGFP, what does it mean? I am looking forward to getting your reply. Smith

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Reference model restraints in real space refinement?
by Oliver Clarke 12 Apr '15

12 Apr '15

Hi all, Is it possible to use reference model restraints at the moment during real space refinement (in phenix.real_space_refine)? I can’t see it in the documentation. On a related note, would it be possible at some point to allow users to set d_max in the phenix.map_to_structure_factors utility? At the moment it seems like the user can set d_min but not d_max - sometimes it is convenient to restrict the low res to 20 or 50Å, rather than the whole box size of an EM-map, which is the default. Best, Oliver.

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Phenix command to align the PDB sequence and input sequence
by Smith Liu 10 Apr '15

10 Apr '15

Dear All, Will you please tell me the Phenix command to align the PDB sequence and input sequence? I am looking forward to getting your reply. Smith

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Error refining with ramachandran restraints
by Oliver Clarke 10 Apr '15

10 Apr '15

Hi all, When I attempt to run a refinement using phenix.refine from the command line, using the parameter “ramachandran_restraints=true”, in the latest nightly build of phenix (dev-2006), I get the following error: ========================== Anomalous scatterer groups ========================= All atoms refined with f_prime=0 and f_double_prime=0. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/phenix-dev-2006/build/../modules/phenix/phenix/command_line/refine.py", line 11, in <module> command_line.run(command_name="phenix.refine", args=sys.argv[1:]) File "/Applications/phenix-dev-2006/modules/phenix/phenix/refinement/command_line.py", line 96, in run master_params=customized_master_params) File "/Applications/phenix-dev-2006/modules/phenix/phenix/refinement/driver.py", line 272, in __init__ secondary_structure_manager=self.sec_str, AttributeError: refine instance has no attribute 'sec_str' This happens for two different structures, so I don’t think it is a structure-specific thing, and I don’t recall this happening in older builds of phenix. The refinement runs fine if I don’t specify ramachandran restraints. Is there something obvious I am doing wrong? Best, Oliver.

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Autobuild error
by Lau Sze Yi (SIgN) 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

Hi, I did an Autobuild run. The Status panel indicated that the run is finished. In the Model building panel the status of run# 5 still says running (See attached screenshot). Is this normal? And when I click on run #4 to Open in Coot, I get an error message indicating that the directory could not be found (see attachment). What is wrong and how can I fix this? I am using version phenix-1.9-1692 on Mac. Regards, Sze Yi Research Fellow Singapore Immunology Network (SigN) 8A Biomedical Grove, #03-06 Immunos, Singapore 138648 DID: +65 6407 0640 Fax: +65 6407 0640

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on reciprocal space refine of the electronic microscopy map by Phenix
by Smith Liu 07 Apr '15

07 Apr '15

Dear All, Recently there are cryo-electronic microscopy papers which refine the reciprocal space of the electronic mcroscopy map by phenix refine. For the electronic mcroscopy map, what does it mean for the reciprocal space? How to get the reciprocal space map from the electronic mcroscopy map? In order to realize this kind of refine in phenx, we only process the xyz coordinates strategy refine in the graphical interface, right? I am looking forward to getting your reply. Smith

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FINAL REMINDER: Neutrons in Structural Biology
by Meilleur, Flora 06 Apr '15

06 Apr '15

6th Workshop on Neutron Scattering Applications in Structural Biology Oak Ridge, TN. June 1 - June 5, 2015 Application deadline: April 10, 2015 Detailed information can be found on the workshop web page: https://public.ornl.gov/neutrons/conf/gcnb2015. Flora Meilleur, Ph. D Assistant Professor, Molecular and Structural Biochemistry North Carolina State University Neutron Sciences Directorate Oak Ridge National Laboratory Phone: 865-242-5747

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Ensemble refinement
by mohamed noor 03 Apr '15

03 Apr '15

Using the FEM map, I managed to remove more bad waters and add instead ions from the crystallization mix. I tried phenix.ensemble_refinement but the Rfactor increased by 2 % (originally 19/22 % from phenix.refine). Before it crashes at the validation point all the time, it prints out the validation summary with 0.53-3.48 % and 1.87-7.22 % Ramachandran outlier (from 0.3 %, supported by density) and a Molprobity score of 1.57-1.92 and 1.82-2.14 depending on pTLS used (original single model score was 2.08). The clashscore in both settings (pTLS=0.6 and 1) are 0. Do I still go by the Rfactor and decide to not use ensemble refinement at all? Thanks.

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Structure with pseudo-NCS translation
by Mark A Saper 03 Apr '15

03 Apr '15

I know that Phaser takes account of NCS translation in the likelihood statistics ( Read, Adams, McCoy (2013) Intensity statistics in the presence of translational non crystallographic symmetry”). Has this also been incorporated into phenix.refine? I have a structure with pseudo NCS translations because of NCS rotational symmetry. One suggestion that I found in the archives, was to explicitly LS target refinement rather than ML. Any comments? Mark _________________________________ Mark A. Saper, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Biological Chemistry, University of Michigan Ann Arbor MI 48109-1055 U.S.A. saper(a)umich.edu phone (734) 764-3353 fax (734) 764-3323

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refinement
by Almudena Ponce Salvatierra 02 Apr '15

02 Apr '15

Dear all, I am using Phenix.refine after MR and I have a complete model and data to 2.8 Angstrom resolution. However, for some reason, Phenix does not place any water molecules. Is there a setting I could change in order to see whether this situation changes? What could the reason be? Thanks a lot in advance. Best, Almudena -- Almudena Ponce-Salvatierra Macromolecular crystallography and Nucleic acid chemistry Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry Am Fassberg 11 37077 Göttingen Germany

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twinning
by Shun Liu 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

Dear all, Recently I have got a data set that diffracts to 1.7 angstrom. Images look good. During data processing I did not find anything that looks strange. However, when I was doing Phaser-MR, I got a warning: “ Intensity moments suggest significant twinning (>5%). Tests based on possible twin laws will be more definitive.” What does this mean? A twinning data set? I still found a solution and refined the model step by step, using the data (20-1.7 angstrom). It seems that the final model and map are acceptable. But R-factors are 0.24/0.28, very high. Does the twin cause the high R-factors? Is there a solution to detwin? Or are the R-factors acceptable for a twinning data set? Any suggestions are appreciated and thanks in advance! Best, Shun

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a question on henix refine
by Smith Liu 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

Dear All, For the Phenix refine, the default for the Scattering table in "other options" in the graphical interface is n_gaussian, in which situation to use electron is much better? And how much would be the benefit to use electron instead of n_gaussian? Smith

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