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Autobuiold from polyalanine model
by Chieh Yin 07 Jul '14

07 Jul '14

Dear Phenix Users, I am doing the molecular replacement to solve a membrane protein structure(transmembrane and soluble domain). The structure of the soluble domain is known, 200AAs. And there is a homology structure of transmembrane domain, 350AAs. I used the polyalanine model of the homologous model of transmembrane domain to do the first search. I got a solution with TFZ 16. Then used the partial solution to do the second search with the soluble domain as the model.I also got a solution with TFZ about 15. The density map showed I got the right solution. And the simple rigid body refinement yielded a Rfactor/Rfree 0.29/0.32. Then I used the polyalanine model and the soluble domain as the starting model to do the phenix autobuild. But it seemed that Autobuild didn't replace the alanine with the real sequence AAs. I tried to set the rebuild in place to false but I still got the same result. The Autobuild even didn't change any amino aside reside from the starting model. I hope you could figure out the problem for me. Thank you in advance! Best regards, Jie

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distinguish between metals
by Aleksandar Bijelic 01 Jul '14

01 Jul '14

Dear phenix developers and users, I wanted to ask if there is a possibility to considerably distinguish betwenn two/three metals. I crystallized an iron-binding protein (transferrin in apo form) with a Ru- and Ga-compound. I see density in the metal-binding site which should come from the Ru/Ga metal since crystallization was done with the apo-form, but nevertheless I need to prove this. The wavelength of the X-ray was 1.02 Angstrom and the respective f''and f' values for the metals are +1.66e/+0.30e (Fe), +1.62/-0.5 (Ru) and +2.95/-0.76 (Ga). Is it possible to distinguish between Ru/Ga and Fe and thus to prove that Fe was not bound? The resolution is moderate with 3.1 angstrom and all metals are able to exhibit the same coordination geometry, thus you cannot distinguish according to the geometry. Unfortunately, I was also not able to measure the crystal with multiple wavelenghts because the crystals were very fragile. I hope you can help me and give me some advice. Thank you in advance. Best Regards, Aleks -- Aleksandar Bijelic, MSc. Institut für Biophysikalische Chemie Universität Wien Althanstrasse 14 1090 Wien Tel: +43 1 4277 52536 e-Mail:[email protected]

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mailing list
by Aleksandar Bijelic 01 Jul '14

01 Jul '14

aleksandar.bijeli(a)univie.ac.at -- Aleksandar Bijelic, MSc. Institut für Biophysikalische Chemie Universität Wien Althanstrasse 14 1090 Wien Tel: +43 1 4277 52536 e-Mail:[email protected]

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select sphere syntax
by Tanner, John J. 28 Jun '14

28 Jun '14

Is there a way to select a sphere of residues in the phenix.superpose_pdbs command, analogous to the "around" syntax in cns? I tried "within" and "around" in phenix.superpose_pdbs but got "Atom selection syntax error". Thanks. Jack Tanner John J. Tanner Professor of Biochemistry and Chemistry University of Missouri-Columbia 125 Chemistry Building Columbia, MO 65211 email: tannerjj(a)missouri.edu<mailto:[email protected]> phone: 573-884-1280 fax: 573-882-2754 http://faculty.missouri.edu/~tannerjj/tannergroup/tanner.html

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Coot DNA names
by Bradley Hintze 27 Jun '14

27 Jun '14

Hey Folks, Does anybody know a quick way to convert DNA atom names back to PDB standard after coot modifies them to match the ccp4 dictionary? Thanks -- Bradley J. Hintze Duke University PhD Candidate Department of Biochemistry

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quick R-value calculation
by Patrick Loll 27 Jun '14

27 Jun '14

I have a structure pulled from the PDB that contains a gnarly, complex ligand, for which I don't have a library. I just want to do a quick R-value calculation +/- ligand, and I don't want to go to the trouble of building and testing a library just for this purpose. Is there some way to induce phenix.refine or phenix.model_vs_data to do the R-value calculation even if it doesn't recognize the nonbonded energy type symbols? Thanks for any tips. Pat --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick J. Loll, Ph. D. Professor of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology Director, Biochemistry Graduate Program Drexel University College of Medicine Room 10-102 New College Building 245 N. 15th St., Mailstop 497 Philadelphia, PA 19102-1192 USA (215) 762-7706 pat.loll(a)drexelmed.edu

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seeking help about running SCALEPACK2mtz
by chen c 26 Jun '14

26 Jun '14

Dear PHENIXBBers: I'e got a problem about data processing when running SCALEPACK2mtz. Hope you can give me some advice on that. Here's my problem: I have an .sca file processed by HKL2000 about 4 years ago, I just ran the Scalepack2mtz program in order to transform it into .mtz file. However, the program keeps running. To ensure that the Scalepack2mtz program is ok, I use another .sca file for verification and it turns out that this file for verification is successfully transformed into .mtz file within seconds. I checked the .log file, the program keeps running when there are the following messeages: "Mean acentric moments I from input data: <I^2>/^2 = 2.360 (Expected = 2.000, Perfect Twin = 1.500) <I^3>/^3 = 9.187 (Expected value = 6.000, Perfect Twin = 3.000) <I^4>/^4 = 52.348 (Expected value = 24.000, Perfect Twin = 7.500) Mean acentric moments I from anisotropically corrected data: <I^2>/^2 = 3.121 (Expected = 2.000, Perfect Twin = 1.500) <I^3>/^3 = 12.788 (Expected value = 6.000, Perfect Twin = 3.000) <I^4>/^4 = 57.952 (Expected value = 24.000, Perfect Twin = 7.500) " does this means that the .sca file isn't processed properly? I also checked the scale.log file, and there are the following messages: " Shell Summary of observation redundancies: Lower Upper % of reflections with given No. of observations limit limit 0 1 2 3 4 5-6 7-8 9-12 13-19 >19 total 50.00 5.60 5.9 6.1 18.0 15.1 26.9 19.7 8.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 94.1 5.60 4.45 7.9 9.4 13.0 12.9 23.2 27.5 6.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 92.1 4.45 3.88 19.2 5.6 13.3 13.5 20.4 21.9 6.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 80.8 3.88 3.53 31.9 6.5 11.6 11.3 14.9 17.9 5.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 68.1 3.53 3.28 2.4 4.7 11.3 15.3 23.5 34.1 8.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 97.6 3.28 3.08 0.2 3.6 7.0 15.4 23.7 40.1 9.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 99.8 3.08 2.93 0.4 4.4 8.7 16.8 21.1 41.3 7.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 99.6 2.93 2.80 4.2 8.0 12.7 15.2 20.3 33.7 6.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 95.8 2.80 2.69 15.4 9.1 14.0 13.8 19.2 25.2 3.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 84.6 2.69 2.60 31.6 16.2 11.7 14.2 13.7 10.6 2.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 68.4 All hkl 11.8 7.3 12.2 14.4 20.8 27.1 6.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 88.2 " This clearly indicates an ice ring problem in the data-collection process. However, the ice ring problem shouldn't have caused the error during the .sca to .mtz process. In fact, I have use it for structure-solvement, and currently the two R factor is around 30%. However, the large deviation of <I^3>/^3 or <I^4>/^4 do means something wrong. Would you tell me what exact mistakes did I make? Can I use this .sca file for subsequent structure solving and refinement? Great thanks for your help! best regards chen

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Anisotropic B-factor restraints
by Elke De Zitter 26 Jun '14

26 Jun '14

Dear All I'm refining a protein structure with a resolution of 1.25 A, using Phenix GUI version 1.9. I am refining the B-factors for the protein atoms anisotropic and those for the water molecules isotropic. How can I restrain the anisotropic B-factors so that bonded atoms have similar ellipsoids (like the SIMU and DELU commands in Shelx making the atoms moving similarly in direction and amount)? Thanks Elke Elke De Zitter PhD student, KU Leuven Biochemistry, Molecular and Structural Biology Celestijnenlaan 200f - bus 2404, 3001 Leuven Room 00.84, +32 16 3 26530

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Combining phases?
by Yuri 26 Jun '14

26 Jun '14

Dear All, Im struggling with a structure. I have a good native data set with resolution 2.1A and a data set with ok stats collect at low energy trying to extract some anomalous signal from intrinsic sulphur atoms (6/ASU/400aa). Using a model of one of the domains I got a MolRep solution that has somewhat convincing features in the electron density maps some portions of the structure but not in others. I also ran HySS and obtained some coordinates for the 6 sulphur atoms but the map here is uninterpretable. Xtriage suggests the anomalous is only good until about 8A so I am not that surprised. Is there any way I can try to combine my putative MolRep model and phases with the sulphur anomlaous signal and maybe get better maps to build into? If so, how would I do that using PHENIX? thanks for the help -- Yuri Pompeu, Ph.D.

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GRC/GRS Diffraction Methods
by Anastassis Perrakis 25 Jun '14

25 Jun '14

Dear all, I am sorry to send one more post to the already overloaded bb, but please let me remind you for the last time that the deadline for applications for the GRC and the GRS is approaching, and is only three days from now. http://www.grc.org/programs.aspx?id=11654 We are all looking forward to welcome you at Bates College in a month from now, and we do hope for a few more last minute participations: we need all of you to make it as exciting and fun as possible! Best regards, Tassos

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Multiple Metal Sites in Autosol
by Ryan Henry Gumpper 24 Jun '14

24 Jun '14

??Hello All, ?I have a question regarding the metal assignments when using Autosol to process SAD datasets. I am new to field and I want to make sure that I am doing things correctly. My enzyme should contain 2 metal sites, one with Cu and one with Fe. We collected data at the Fe-edge, the Cu-PreEdge, and the Cu-Edge for a comparison. When I tell Autosol to search for 1 Cu site, using the Cu-Edge data, and another heavy atom Fe, it finds 33 sites all Cu with 2 being Fe. Likewise, using the same dataset, when I include S as an additional anomalous scattering moiety, it will find 1 Cu in the correct position and 32 S atoms--my protein does not contain 32 S atoms. Finally, when I include every possibility that was in my crystallization buffer, this includes a fairly high concentration of MgCl2, and I tell it to search for 1 Cu site with the additional heavy atoms being Fe, S, Mg, and Cl, it seems that it is able to assign the Cu correctly, however it now gives Mg coordinated with Cu instead of H2O molecules, and this is not possible. Should I include Mg and Cl in the search? And S? Also, why would it not be finding the Fe? Furthermore, and most importantly, why is it assigning so many heavy atom sites? I am having similar problems with the other two data sets as well. Thank you very much in advance! Regards, Ryan Gumpper

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Re: [phenixbb] Iron (FE2) metalloprotein
by Nathaniel Echols 24 Jun '14

24 Jun '14

On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Egor Tchesnokov < etchesnokov(a)chemistry.otago.ac.nz> wrote: > Thank you for the comment. > The model I use for Phaser is coming from Sculptor, so it does not have > heteroatoms. > I introduce heteroatom (Fe) only after Phaser. I use Phaser-EP to find it, > eventhough it is obvious from the density. Then I merge Fe and Phaser.pdb > in Coot after which I feed it to ReadySet. So the pdb that I give to Refine > either have Fe with occupancy of 1, <1 or >1 (I tried both). I use PDB > editor to add charge, but the outcome is still the same. After refinement > Fe occupancy is either 1 or very close. > My apologies, I misinterpreted your message. Is this just a case of "name that blob?" If so, I suggest posting images of the density around the iron to the list (and probably ccp4bb as well) asking for suggestions. It's very likely that someone will have encountered similar density before. -Nat

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Iron (FE2) metalloprotein
by Egor Tchesnokov 24 Jun '14

24 Jun '14

Hello, Active site contains iron (FE2) coordinated by three histidines. After Phaser the active site does not contain un-explained green density. After Refinement blobs of various shapes appear in the vicinity and upto 3-4A of active site iron. Refinement is done using occupancy and anomalous of iron options. Buffers do not contain molecules that could fit in those blobs. Any suggestions? Thank you Egor

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Geometry problems
by Yarrow Madrona 23 Jun '14

23 Jun '14

Hello, I have a ligand bound to a heme and I have supplied a CIF for phenix in refinement. I did not include all atoms just, those close to the iron. Unfortunately, I am getting very large reported bond deviations for other atoms. For example I get: bond pdb="FE HEM A 410 " pdb=" N3 CPZ A 500 " ideal model delta sigma weight residual 2.100 4.054 -1.954 2.00e-01 2.50e+01 9.54e+01 N3 and FE are not bonded and not expected to be close to one another. it is not supported by the structure. I suspect that this is causing my overall bonds deviations to be ~0.03 even if I greatly reduce the weight of wxc. Is it necessary to enter all of these outliers into the .cif file or is there an easier way? Thank you.

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Sulfate at 3-fold axis
by Zhou, Tongqing (NIH/VRC) [E] 23 Jun '14

23 Jun '14

Dear Colleagues, I am refining a structure and there is a SO4 on the 3-fold axis. What I did was to put atom S and O1 on the 3-fold with occ=0.33, and O2 with occ=1, and no O3 and O4 in the pdb (O3 and O4 will be the symmetry of O2). But when I refine it, Phenix complains close non-bounded distances for both S and O1. Is there a way to refine this sulfate? Thanks! Best regards, Tongqing Tongqing Zhou, Ph.D. Staff Scientist Structural Biology Section Vaccine Research Center, NIAID/NIH Building 40, Room 4609B 40 Convent Drive, MSC3027 Bethesda, MD 20892 (301) 594-8710 (Tel) (301) 793-0794 (Cell) (301) 480-2658 (Fax) ****************************************************************************** The information in this e-mail and any of its attachments is confidential and may contain sensitive information. It should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any other storage devices. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases shall not accept liability for any statements made that are sender's own and not expressly made on behalf of the NIAID by one of its representatives. ******************************************************************

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after updating my system 1.9 1692
by Afshan Begum 23 Jun '14

23 Jun '14

Dear Developers, I am wondering why my system is getting too much slow after update the phenix new version??? before that its take few mints to finish my job but now its take more than 7 hour just finish one job .could you help me regarding this. Many thanks Best Regards AFSHAN

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Update waters and chain ID
by Scott Lovell 19 Jun '14

19 Jun '14

Hi All, I'm refining a structure (dev-1726) that contains 24 protein subunits which are assigned to chains A-X in the PDB file. Chains Y and Z are assigned to a couple of ligands and the ordered solvent molecules are chain w (lower case). I decided to give the "Update waters" option a try during refinement but it seems that the chain ID of the ordered solvent is changed to chain S by default. Since I already have a protein subunit assigned to chain S, the following error is obtained when I try to open the model in Coot (ERROR 39 READ: Duplicate sequence number and insertion code.). To enable visualization of the model in Coot, I can of course manually change the chain ID for the ordered solvent in the output PDB file using a text editor. However, is there a way to override the ordered solvent default chain ID in Phenix to prevent duplication? Thanks, Scott __________________________________ Scott Lovell Ph.D., Director Protein Structure Laboratory University of Kansas Del Shankel Structural Biology Center

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More problems with HEM.cif?
by Yarrow Madrona 19 Jun '14

19 Jun '14

Hello, The HEM.cif in $Phenix/chem_data/mon_lib has ideal angles of 1.337 for single bonds on the vinyl groups. HEM CAC CBC coval 1.337 0.02 HEM CAB CBB coval 1.337 0.02 As far as I know these are single bonds and the ideal bond angles should be around 1.5. -Yarrow

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Rigid ligand placement into density map
by Phan, Jason 19 Jun '14

19 Jun '14

Hi All, Is there an option or flag in Phenix LigandFit to place the ligand rigidly with pre-generated conformations without torsional adjustments? Would setting "conformers = 1" and "refine_ligand = false" work? Coot Find Ligand with the "flexible" option unchecked seems to work but it won't tell you which original conformer (SD file) the "fitted ligand" comes from since all the conformers have the same residue name and number. Coot doesn't write out SD format either so any ID associated with the original conformer is lost. Jason

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molprobity coot TODO python script
by wtempel 19 Jun '14

19 Jun '14

Hello, I noticed the following when loading a phenix-created python TODO script using the 4730 and 5100 Linux-x86_64-ubuntu-12.04.3-python-gtk2 coot builds. A "MolProbity to-do list" window opens. GUI functions such as "Show Probe dots" and "Overlap only" are working as expected. Clicking anywhere within the "C-beta outliers" or "Severe clashes" areas of the window moves the display center to problem areas of the structure. But: no text is visible in any of the columns ("Chain", "Residue", "Name", etc. of the "C-beta outliers area"; "Atom 1", Atom 2", "Overlap" of the "Severe clashes"). As a result, I cannot select a specific problem spot for centering. Any ideas? Another molprobity related question: us there a phenix script that produces a list of NQH flip candidates? Thank you, Wolfram Tempel Attached image: Clicking in the white areas on the window in the attached screen grab will move the center of the coot display, but labels for the problem areas are not shown in the window's columns.

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GUI program to calculate effective resolution of a data set
by Alexandre OURJOUMTSEV 19 Jun '14

19 Jun '14

Dear All, Recently, there was a ccp4bb conversation concerning the definition of a ‘real’ (effective) resolution of (incomplete) diffraction data sets. I am happy to announce that a corresponding GUI program EFRESOL is available now and you may download it from the Web site: http://www-ibmc.u-strasbg.fr/arn/Site_UPR9002/efresol/Efresol.html http://www-ibmc.u-strasbg.fr/arn/Site_UPR9002/Sites.html The method is described in L.Urzhumtseva, B.P.Klaholz, A.Urzhumtsev (2013) Acta Cryst., D69, 1921-1934. We would like to thank Joel Bard, Tom Peat, Rajan Prabu and especially Boaz Shaanan for testing the original version of the program. With best wishes, Sacha Urzhumtsev

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Re: [phenixbb] special positions
by Yarrow Madrona 18 Jun '14

18 Jun '14

Hi Pavel, It turns out I do have some special positions. Waters sit near a 2 fold axis. I have given them 0.5 occupancy. No error comes up but they simply get kicked out of the electron density. Maybe I should turn off rigid body refinement since I don't need it? Below is a link to a screen shot. https://www.dropbox.com/s/lt3hqzjmygin9l8/special_position.png On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Pavel Afonine <pafonine(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > Hi Yarrow, > > oh good! I'm glad you solved the problem -:) > > All the best, > Pavel > > > On 6/18/14, 8:02 AM, Yarrow Madrona wrote: > > Hi Pavel, > > Thanks for your quick response. It turns out that after I reprocessed a > data set in a higher symetry space group I forgot to use a reference mtz so > the orientation was completely off. I just re-ran phaser and everything > worked fine. I didn't run rigid body refinement after phaser. > > The original error message didn't list the atoms and I am not sure how > it could have any atoms on special positions with the solution being > completely wrong. Probably nothing to worry about. > > -Yarrow > > On Tuesday, June 17, 2014, Pavel Afonine <pafonine(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > >> Hi Yarrow, >> >> ok, I wish that error message (that I put a while ago, in 2009 to be >> precise) lists those atoms... Can you send me the file so I can tell you >> what these atoms are? >> >> In general, if at rigid-body refinement stage you have atoms at special >> positions it is unlikely to be right. >> >> Pavel >> >> On 6/17/14, 12:56 PM, Yarrow Madrona wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am trying to do rigid body refinement, however I get an error in >>> phenix telling me that there are atoms at special positions. >>> >>> I am not sure how to determine which atoms are at special positions so >>> that I can exclude them from rigid body refinement. Can someone help me >>> with this? Thank you. >>> >>> -Yarrow >>> >> >> >

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Calculate F (model) + Calculate Map Correlation
by George Devaniranjan 18 Jun '14

18 Jun '14

Hi, I am trying to use phenix and I was trying to do the following: Take a PDB, generate a MTZ file using Calculate F (model) and lets call it native.mtz then change a few phi and psi values of the pdb (so its slightly different from the native), run Calculate F (model) model.mtz Now I tried to calculate the CC of the two MTZ using Calculate Map Correlation. I get the following: "Missing at least one map file or label" What am I doing wrong? Thank you, George

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Calculation of RSR for a fragment of PDB
by George Devaniranjan 18 Jun '14

18 Jun '14

Hi everyone, I apologize at the beginning itself as I am new to using PHENIX/X-ray crystallography so this question might not make the most sense but I will try and explain it well. I cut out a part of a map for a PDB fragment using phenix map cut out density resulting in a MTZ file. Now I changed the fragment (changed its phi and psi externally) and want to calculate the RSR [real-space R -factor] for the model based on the old density (to check if I have made things worse or not). how can I go about this? I tried using phenix.refine couldn't get it to work. I have attached the MTZ fragment, the original PDB fragment and the modified PDB fragment. native: nativeFragment.pdb model: modelledFragment.pdb MTZ: cut_out_density.MTZ (I can see mine is worse but I want to quantify that "badness") Thank you, George

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Re: [phenixbb] special positions
by Yarrow Madrona 18 Jun '14

18 Jun '14

Hi Pavel, It turns out I do have some special positions. Waters sit near a 2 fold axis. I have given them 0.5 occupancy. No error comes up but they simply get kicked out of the electron density. Maybe I should turn off rigid body refinement since I don't need it? Below is a link to a screen shot. https://www.dropbox.com/s/lt3hqzjmygin9l8/special_position.png -Yarrow On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Pavel Afonine <pafonine(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > Hi Yarrow, > > oh good! I'm glad you solved the problem -:) > > All the best, > Pavel > > > On 6/18/14, 8:02 AM, Yarrow Madrona wrote: > > Hi Pavel, > > Thanks for your quick response. It turns out that after I reprocessed a > data set in a higher symetry space group I forgot to use a reference mtz so > the orientation was completely off. I just re-ran phaser and everything > worked fine. I didn't run rigid body refinement after phaser. > > The original error message didn't list the atoms and I am not sure how > it could have any atoms on special positions with the solution being > completely wrong. Probably nothing to worry about. > > -Yarrow > > On Tuesday, June 17, 2014, Pavel Afonine <pafonine(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > >> Hi Yarrow, >> >> ok, I wish that error message (that I put a while ago, in 2009 to be >> precise) lists those atoms... Can you send me the file so I can tell you >> what these atoms are? >> >> In general, if at rigid-body refinement stage you have atoms at special >> positions it is unlikely to be right. >> >> Pavel >> >> On 6/17/14, 12:56 PM, Yarrow Madrona wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am trying to do rigid body refinement, however I get an error in >>> phenix telling me that there are atoms at special positions. >>> >>> I am not sure how to determine which atoms are at special positions so >>> that I can exclude them from rigid body refinement. Can someone help me >>> with this? Thank you. >>> >>> -Yarrow >>> >> >> >

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