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unit cell discrepancies
by Michael Hothorn 22 Apr '11

22 Apr '11

Dear all, I am sure there is a simple explanation for this, but I cannot find a solution. I am reading in an .mtz file in phenix.refine. mtzdump reports the following unit cell constants on the file test.mtz itself: 175.0930 67.2510 119.0500 90.0000 121.5500 90.0000 The refined .pdb file and .maps report however a slightly different unit cell, as does the logfile >snip Miller array info: test.mtz:FP,SIGFP Observation type: xray.amplitude Type of data: double, size=39702 Type of sigmas: double, size=39702 Number of Miller indices: 39702 Anomalous flag: False Unit cell: (175.17, 67.236, 119.246, 90, 121.416, 90) What am I missing? Thanks! Michael

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Installation issue
by Simon Kolstoe 22 Apr '11

22 Apr '11

Hi, I've just installed the latest stable version of phenix on a new macbook pro using phenix-installer-1.7-650-mac-intel-osx.tar However, as I like running phenix.refine on the command line, I normally source the script phenix_env.sh which on my other computer is in the directory /Applications/PHENIX-1.7-650/Contents/phenix-1.7-650/ However the latest install doesn't seem to have the final phenix-1.7-650 directory! Has phenix_env.sh moved somewhere else and if so where? Thanks, Simon

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Out of Memory Errors
by Heather Condurso 21 Apr '11

21 Apr '11

Hello all, I am currently running the Phenix GUI version 1.7-650 on an iMac with an 3.2Ghz Intel Core i3 processor, 8GB of memory operating under OS 10.6. During many of my runs (mostly AutoMR runs but sometimes refine) I get out of memory errors. I have my system booted in 64 bit mode and I watch the activity monitor and find that phenix doesn't use much more than 2GB of memory. My search model is very large. My unit cell contains 4 trimers (each monomer is 48kDa). I hadn't encountered this issue until I began to increase my search model from one trimer to four. Do you have any suggestions as to how I could avoid this error without minimizing my search model? Often my AutoMR runs get the out of memory error at the start of refinement, but just now the memory was exhausted during the fast rotation function. During this run I used all default parameters with a max res of 4.0 and RMSD of 1.0. Any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated! Heather

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R free test set size
by Yuri 21 Apr '11

21 Apr '11

hello everyone, I just noticed that the latest model I am working on has only 2% of reflections marked as free R after refinement! I usually give the GUI the .sca files out of HKL2000 that do not have an Rfree array pre-defined. The GUI lets you know about the lack of it and asks me if I want generate a test set of 10%. I say yes. However the pdb header shows the only 2.14% are chosen for free R. I see that some of my other models (lower resolution) have test arrays of around 7-10% as I would expect. How can I explicitly define the size I want? Thanks -- Yuri Pompeu

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optimizing weights
by Alexandra Deaconescu 21 Apr '11

21 Apr '11

Dear all: I would like to optimize my weights during Phenix refinement. I am running Phenix 1.6.4-486 using the gui, and I have checked the "optimize weights", but I cannot see the results of the optimization in the output, so I do not know the relationship between Rfree/geometry and wc and wxc_scale (I might not want to pick the automatically selected wxc_scale for the lowest Rfree, but would like to find a reasonable values to give me good geometry). Some earlier posts indicated that this is not output in the log file, but I am running a more recent version... Also, in case I wanted to adjust the weights manually, do I have set wxc_scale AND check the fix wc at the same time in the gui? Or just one of them? What would be typical values to start with at 2.8A (even if the answer depends on the particular data)? Same question for the ADP refinement.... I am working at 2.8A and my B factors are high (higher I think than what one would expect at this resolution). Thanks for your help, Alex -- Alexandra M. Deaconescu, Ph.D. Research Associate, HHMI c/o Grigorieff Laboratory Rosenstiel Center MS029 Brandeis University 415 South St. Waltham, MA 02454 phone: 781-736-2498 For FEDEX Brandeis University Kalman Receiving Dock 415 South St. Waltham, MA 02454

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obtaining f'/f'' from solved structures and comparison to a fluorescence scan
by Francis E Reyes 21 Apr '11

21 Apr '11

Hi phenixer's I'm in need of reliable f'/f'' for my heavy atom (that isn't Sasaki tables which I believe is for free, unbound atoms). I've used group_anomalous in phenix.refine before so I'm sure a phenix utility is capable of extracting it. I wanted to if it's possible to extract it from several solved structures (I have the DANO/SIGDANO, F(+)/F(-), or if needed the original I(+)/I(-)) I'm curious to see if there's wide variation and whether it'd be as reliable (or even better) than actually taking a fluorescence scan (and of course use the values for my current phasing challenge as a starting point). F --------------------------------------------- Francis E. Reyes M.Sc. 215 UCB University of Colorado at Boulder

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AutoSol
by Nora Cronin 18 Apr '11

18 Apr '11

Is have 2 difference anomalous datasets with two different heavy atoms. I can input 2 SAD datasets in AutoSol using the Wavelength and Group = keywords. How do I input 2 different crystal_info keywords since this keyword does not accept the Group= option? cheers Nora Dr N B Cronin X-Ray Laboratory Manager Tel. (+44) 020 7153 5445 Section of Structural Biology Fax. (+44) 020 7153 5457 Chester Beatty Laboratories mobile: (+44) 07787554059 The Institute of Cancer Research 237 Fulham Road London SW3 6JB The Institute of Cancer Research: Royal Cancer Hospital, a charitable Company Limited by Guarantee, Registered in England under Company No. 534147 with its Registered Office at 123 Old Brompton Road, London SW7 3RP. This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer and network.

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unusual maps and Rfree for 1.75 structure
by Yuri 18 Apr '11

18 Apr '11

>>you did not mention the resolution... From your email I guess it is 1.9A, is it correct? It is 1.75A. But like I said the maps right now do not look like those of 1.75 resolution. my 1.9 maps looked way better... The P1 strategy is valid. I will also try processing without the screw axis P 4 2 2, or maybe even P 4 21 2. It looks like the other systematic absences are ok (they are pretty weak reflections). -- Yuri Pompeu

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unusual maps and Rfree for 1.75 structure
by Yuri 17 Apr '11

17 Apr '11

I am solving a structure of an enzyme that I have solved many times before, the only difference is a single mutation in the active site. The crystal grew in basically exact conditions (macroscopically speaking they look different) as the other mutants I had. I scaled the data P 43 21 2 Rsym 0.068. Like all the other data sets I had before. This time however, the initial model has Rfree of about 0.27 and the maps look more like those of a 2.5 - 2.8 structure. My experinence with this enzyme is that I should be looking at around 0.22 or lower Rfree, and pretty clear maps as I saw for my 1.9 structure. Xtriage does not detect any pathologies. I rececked my scaling log file, and it lists the systematic absences for the data. I see some that are not that "weak" for instance : h k l I/sigma 0 0 1 6.0 0 0 2 5.8 0 0 13 7.8 So I am inclined to reprocess my data in P 4 2 2. Are these "symptoms" of a possible wrong space group assignment? Is there something else obvious I am overlooking? Thank you -- Yuri Pompeu

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Re: [phenixbb] Autobuild error -- merging results of nearly-finished OMIT and autobuild runs
by Thomas C. Terwilliger 16 Apr '11

16 Apr '11

Dear Nick, I'm sorry for the error ("[Errno 5] Input/output error") that you are getting with your i7-based PC's with Fedora 14. I have not seen this error before, but we can try to debug it with "debug=true" and also I have a work-around for combining the files that you already have created so you don't need to rerun your whole jobs. Can you possibly run this quick test job to try and get it to fail: phenix.autobuild $PHENIX/phenix_regression/wizards/perfect.mtz \ input_labels="FP SIGFP" \ map_file=$PHENIX/phenix_regression/wizards/perfect.mtz \ input_map_labels="FP PHIC FOM" \ seq_file=$PHENIX/phenix_regression/wizards/seq.dat \ resolution=3.0 \ solvent_fraction=.6 \ model=$PHENIX/phenix_regression/wizards/coords.pdb \ rebuild_in_place=True \ n_cycle_rebuild_min=1 \ n_cycle_rebuild_max=1 \ multiple_models=True \ multiple_models_number=1 \ multiple_models_group_number=2 \ highest_resno=200 \ debug=true This takes about 5 minutes. If it fails, can you send me (terwilliger(a)lanl.gov, not the list) the end out the output where it gives a traceback of where the error occurred? Combining files from a nearly-complete autobuild run with rebuild-in-place=true You can combine models with autobuild, providing all models have exactly the same set of atoms (aside from any solvent) by editing this script (basically you run a dummy autobuild run to create a directory and database entries, then you copy your files there, then you run autobuild and tell it to carry on and do the combine step): -------------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/csh -f #COMBINE_MODELS SCRIPT if (-d PDS || -d AutoBuild_run_1_) then echo "Please run in a directory without PDS or AutoBuild_run_1_" exit 1 endif echo "Setting up combine models with a dummy run. NOTE: multiple_models_group_number must be correct" phenix.autobuild fobs.mtz multiple_models=true seq_file=seq.dat combine_only=true multiple_models_group_number=2 multiple_models_number=1>& dummy_autobuild.log echo "Copying files to AutoBuild_run_1_/MULTIPLE_MODELS" mkdir AutoBuild_run_1_/MULTIPLE_MODELS cp coords1.pdb AutoBuild_run_1_/MULTIPLE_MODELS/initial_model.pdb_1_1 cp coords2.pdb AutoBuild_run_1_/MULTIPLE_MODELS/initial_model.pdb_1_2 cp map_coeffs_1.mtz AutoBuild_run_1_/MULTIPLE_MODELS/initial_model.mtz_1_1 cp map_coeffs_2.mtz AutoBuild_run_1_/MULTIPLE_MODELS/initial_model.mtz_1_2 ls AutoBuild_run_1_/MULTIPLE_MODELS/ echo "Running autobuild to combine files in AutoBuild_run_1_/MULTIPLE_MODELS" phenix.autobuild combine_only=true seq_file=seq.dat carry_on=true run=1 > autobuild_combine.log # END OF COMBINE_MODELS SCRIPT ------------------------------------------------------- Combining OMIT runs that have been run on separate computers or that come from a nearly-completed omit run: You can do this by copying all the individual mtz files with map coefficients for omit regions to a single directory and running a script like this one: (NOTE: you need to ensure that the OMIT regions are defined the same in the runs where you got your overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_1 etc files and this run. You ensure that with the n_xyz command that sets the grid. You can copy this from one of your resolve log files created when you ran your omit (i.e., AutoBuild_run_1_/TEMP0/AutoBuild_run_1_/TEMP0/resolve.log will have a line "nu nv nw: 32 32 32 " and you copy those numbers). ------------------------------------ #!/bin/csh -f # COMBINE OMIT SCRIPT phenix.resolve<<EOD hklin exptl_fobs_phases_freeR_flags.mtz labin FP=FP SIGFP=SIGFP n_xyz 32 32 32 # YOU MUST SET THIS BASED ON THE nu nv nw in a resolve log file. solvent_content 0.85 no_build ha_file NONE combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_1 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_2 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_3 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_4 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_5 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_6 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_7 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_8 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_9 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_10 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_11 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_12 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_13 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_14 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_15 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_16 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_17 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_18 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_19 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_20 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_21 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_22 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_23 combine_map overall_best_denmod_map_coeffs.mtz_OMIT_REGION_24 omit EOD # END OF COMBINE OMIT SCRIPT All the best, Tom T >> Dear Phenix Developers, >> >> I have been experiencing problems with autobuild whenever I try to rebuild >> an MR model or calculate a composite OMIT map. These tasks always end the >> same way: with "[Errno 5] Input/output error". The failure always happens >> when the run is basically finished and trying to combine the output from >> multiple tasks. My first thought was that my hard drive was full or fixing >> to crash, but these problems happen across several machines and have persisted through multiple official and nightly Phenix releases (currently >> running 1.7-634). The computers that cannot run autobuild successfully are >> both core i7-based PCs running Fedora 14 (though these problems also occurred running earlier Fedora versions). My older xeon-based PC runs autobuild without any trouble, which makes me think this a core i7-related >> problem. I have searched the PhenixBB archive and have not turned up any >> similar problems - have any other users experienced trouble with Phenix and core i7? Is there a work-around I ca >> n use to manually combine the various outputs? The core i7 machines are >> so much faster, I would really like to solve this problem so that I can stop relying on my aging xeon PC for these long calculations. I have included the end of two log files for reference. Also, autosol runs fine >> on the core i7 computers and successfully builds wonderful models from my >> SeMet SAD data. Thank you for Phenix and for any advice you can give. >> >> Best wishes, >> Nick Silvaggi >> >> P.S. I apologize if this message appears twice - I sent it once from an address that was not registered with the BB and decided to re-send from a >> registered address. >> >> Autobuild after MR: >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Standard build in parallel starting with refine.pdb_1 >> This is the first try at building this model >> Try: 1 building 1 model >> Try: 2 building 1 model >> Try: 3 building 1 model >> Running up to 3 jobs in parallel... with total of 3 jobs >> >> Splitting work into 3 jobs and running with 3 processors using sh background=True in >> /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_2_/TEMP0 >> >> Starting job 1...Log will be: >> /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_2_/TEMP0/RUN_FILE_1.log Starting job 2...Log will be: >> /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_2_/TEMP0/RUN_FILE_2.log Starting job 3...Log will be: >> /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_2_/TEMP0/RUN_FILE_3.log Collecting all runs now >> *************ERROR ENDING ******************* >> >> ******************************************************************************** Failed to carry out AutoBuild_build_cycle: >> >> [Errno 5] Input/output error >> ******************************************************************************** >> >> *************ERROR ENDING ******************* >> >> >> Calculating SA composite omit map: >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Starting job 34...Log will be: >> /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_3_/TEMP0/RUN_FILE_34.log Starting job 35...Log will be: >> /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_3_/TEMP0/RUN_FILE_35.log Starting job 36...Log will be: >> /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_3_/TEMP0/RUN_FILE_36.log Collecting all runs now >> *************ERROR ENDING ******************* >> >> ******************************************************************************** Failed to carry out AutoBuild_parallel_omit: >> >> [Errno 5] Input/output error >> ******************************************************************************** >> >> *************ERROR ENDING ******************* >> >> Nicholas R Silvaggi, Ph.D. >> University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee >> Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry >> 3210 North Cramer St >> Milwaukee, WI 53211 >> >> Office: Chemistry 272B >> Phone: 414-229-2647 >> silvaggi(a)uwm.edu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> phenixbb mailing list >> phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org >> http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb >>

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Autobuild error
by Nicholas R Silvaggi 15 Apr '11

15 Apr '11

Dear Phenix Developers, I have been experiencing problems with autobuild whenever I try to rebuild an MR model or calculate a composite OMIT map. These tasks always end the same way: with "[Errno 5] Input/output error". The failure always happens when the run is basically finished and trying to combine the output from multiple tasks. My first thought was that my hard drive was full or fixing to crash, but these problems happen across several machines and have persisted through multiple official and nightly Phenix releases (currently running 1.7-634). The computers that cannot run autobuild successfully are both core i7-based PCs running Fedora 14 (though these problems also occurred running earlier Fedora versions). My older xeon-based PC runs autobuild without any trouble, which makes me think this a core i7-related problem. I have searched the PhenixBB archive and have not turned up any similar problems - have any other users experienced trouble with Phenix and core i7? Is there a work-around I can use to manually combine the various outputs? The core i7 machines are so much faster, I would really like to solve this problem so that I can stop relying on my aging xeon PC for these long calculations. I have included the end of two log files for reference. Also, autosol runs fine on the core i7 computers and successfully builds wonderful models from my SeMet SAD data. Thank you for Phenix and for any advice you can give. Best wishes, Nick Silvaggi P.S. I apologize if this message appears twice - I sent it once from an address that was not registered with the BB and decided to re-send from a registered address. Autobuild after MR: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Standard build in parallel starting with refine.pdb_1 This is the first try at building this model Try: 1 building 1 model Try: 2 building 1 model Try: 3 building 1 model Running up to 3 jobs in parallel... with total of 3 jobs Splitting work into 3 jobs and running with 3 processors using sh background=True in /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_2_/TEMP0 Starting job 1...Log will be: /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_2_/TEMP0/RUN_FILE_1.log Starting job 2...Log will be: /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_2_/TEMP0/RUN_FILE_2.log Starting job 3...Log will be: /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_2_/TEMP0/RUN_FILE_3.log Collecting all runs now *************ERROR ENDING ******************* ******************************************************************************** Failed to carry out AutoBuild_build_cycle: [Errno 5] Input/output error ******************************************************************************** *************ERROR ENDING ******************* Calculating SA composite omit map: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Starting job 34...Log will be: /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_3_/TEMP0/RUN_FILE_34.log Starting job 35...Log will be: /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_3_/TEMP0/RUN_FILE_35.log Starting job 36...Log will be: /home/nicks/projects/r51/phenix_mr/AutoBuild_run_3_/TEMP0/RUN_FILE_36.log Collecting all runs now *************ERROR ENDING ******************* ******************************************************************************** Failed to carry out AutoBuild_parallel_omit: [Errno 5] Input/output error ******************************************************************************** *************ERROR ENDING ******************* Nicholas R Silvaggi, Ph.D. University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry 3210 North Cramer St Milwaukee, WI 53211 Office: Chemistry 272B Phone: 414-229-2647 silvaggi(a)uwm.edu

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parallel structure comparison
by Kendall Nettles 15 Apr '11

15 Apr '11

Dear PHENIX developers, In this weeks build, when I launch coot from the structure comparison results, no models or maps are loaded. It works in the last major release. Also, in the major release version the ligands are stripped out. Is this a bug? If not, I would like to request that the ligands be left in the structures. Thanks so much Kendall

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The individual site refinement for Low resolution data (~3.8A)
by Zhang yu 15 Apr '11

15 Apr '11

Dear phenixer, Phenix suggested "Individual site" refinement is only suitable for high or midi resolution data (<3.5A). What is the alternate strategy to refine the atom coordinates of low resolution data? Yu

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occupancy refinement when alternate conformers clash
by Kendall Nettles 14 Apr '11

14 Apr '11

Hi, I am refining an RNA structure where on set of base pairs has alternate conformers, and the B alternates from the paired bases clash. That is, the structure should be viewed as A alternate in one base paired with B alternate in the other base. The refinement blew both B alts out of the density to prevent their clash. How can I fix this? Thanks for your help, Kendall Nettles

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O-linked glycosylation refinement in Phenix
by Qiang Chen 13 Apr '11

13 Apr '11

Dear all, I'm refining a structure which has both N-linked and O-linked glycosylation. I use Phenix to do the refinement. It works well for the N-linked NAG. I defined the link as the following: apply_cif_link { data_link = "NAG-ASN" residue_selection_1 = "chain A and resname NAG and resid 701" residue_selection_2 = "chain A and resname ASN and resid 518" } But it doesn't work when I defined the fucose-threonine link as the similar way: apply_cif_link { data_link = "FUC-THR" residue_selection_1 = "chain A and resname FUC and resid 801" residue_selection_2 = "chain A and resname THR and resid 596" } The error message is "missing CIF link: data_link_FUC-THR". Does anyone have the cif link file of FUC-THR? Thanks a lot! Qiang The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.

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(Anisotropic ADP vs. isotropic ADP) coupling with occupancy refinement
by Young-Jin Cho 12 Apr '11

12 Apr '11

Dear phenix developer and users, I am just wondering while I was taking a small molecule X-ray course. I used to run refinement with anisotropic ADP when it is high resolution about better than 1.5 or 1.6 A. My question is when you do this with occupancy refinement, does phenix.refine take care the alternative conformations with aniostropic ADP (I guess so) even at low occupancy? Due to lack of electrons (scattering factor), I experienced that small molecule refinement applies Anisotropic ADP for the atoms (about more than 2 e- in occupancy) while applying isotropic ADP for the less occupied atoms (in an alternative conformation). Would it help if we apply this method to our macro molecular system when you have residues that have low occupied alternative residues? Is so, could we have something like script or else either to modify a pdb file or to make this in consideration during refinement? Any information or comments are welcome. Thanks in advance, Young-Jin

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help me to install phenix on ubuntu10.4
by 王瑞 11 Apr '11

11 Apr '11

Excuse me,I'm a freshman ,could anyone tell me how to install phenix on ubuntu10.4? I have download phenix-installer-1.7-650- intel-linux-2.6-x86_64-fc12.tar.gz. when I install it in terminal,there was a error notice:"./install:no such file or directory"!Could anyone help me? Many thanks!

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phenix don't start
by albert 11 Apr '11

11 Apr '11

Dear: I installed Phenix-1.7-650 in my SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 SP3 X64 system from source code. When I source /soft/phenix-1.7/phenix-1.7-650/phenix_env and try to run it by typing phenix in terminal, it is said: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/soft/phenix-1.7/phenix-1.7-650/phenix/wxGUI2/command_line/main.py", line 13, in <module> run(sys.argv[1:]) File "/soft/phenix-1.7/phenix-1.7-650/phenix/wxGUI2/command_line/main.py", line 7, in run from wxGUI2 import App File "/soft/phenix-1.7/phenix-1.7-650/phenix/wxGUI2/App.py", line 11, in <module> import wx ImportError: No module named wx The python in my OS is 2.4 with wxpython installed. I don't know why it cannot start. could you please give me some advices? THX

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secondary structure restraints
by Panne Daniel 09 Apr '11

09 Apr '11

I am having problems with the secondary structure restraints in phenix.refine (1.6.4-486). I wrote a ss restraints file and use this as an input file. In the log file I can see that the file is read but the atom selections used by phenix.refine do not correspond to those set in the restraints file. I have turned off automatic ss detection. Any advice? Thanks, Daniel

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difficulties with the refinement of a Cadmium containing pdb file
by Vellieux Frederic 08 Apr '11

08 Apr '11

Hi all, I have some difficulties refining (what happens is an error status, i.e. no refinement taking place) of a coordinate file that contains Cadmium ions. The person here who has already refined a structure containing Cd ions using Phenix is not here at the moment (otherwise I would have asked him). In case you wonder: the CD is shifted 1 position to the left as is required for metal ions in a PDB. Phenix choked. So I ran ReadySet on the input pdb file and gave the output file to Phenix for the next attempt. Still failed, and the error message I get is: Fatal problems interpreting PDB file: Number of atoms with unknown nonbonded energy type symbols: 2 Please edit the PDB file to resolve the problem and/or supply a Cif file with matching restraints definitions, along with apply_cif_modification and apply_cif_link parameter definitions if necessary. Also note that phenix_ready_set and phenix.elbow are available for creating restraints definitions (CIF files). Running phenix.elbow (phenix.elbow input_file.pdb --do-all) does not seem to do anything - no output file seems to be generated. Hence I am quite at loss here. Ready Set (from the gui) generated a file called name_of_the_coordinate_file.metal.edits , which is used by phenix for the next attempt but which does not seem to solve the problem. Thanks for any advice, Fred.

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Re: [phenixbb] How to define link in phenix (rna3p) ?
by Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve 08 Apr '11

08 Apr '11

> Hi. I came across with the following post when I was dealing with a > similar issue (adding a modified nucleotide to RNA). I could create > .cif using elbow/reel as well, but I was wondering where to define > the link type between residues in phenix. You can use the apply_cif_link parameters. > For RNA, I typically see "rna3p', but with my newly created residue > linked to normal oligo, the link is formed, but recognized as Link ID > 'p'. Also, the newly created molecule is recognized as 'peptide', > although I defined _chem_comp.group in .cif file as RNA. The _chem_comp.group value is ignored by phenix.refine. The classifications are obtained via analysis of the atom names and the bonding in the monomer definitions. >------------------------------------------ >Chain: "Q1" > Number of atoms: 74 > Number of conformers: 1 > Conformer: "" > Number of residues, atoms: 3, 74 > Classifications: {'RNA': 2, 'peptide': 1} > Modifications used: {'5*END': 1, 'rna3p': 2} > Link IDs: {'p': 1, 'rna3p': 1} >------------------------------------------ It is strange that it thinks there is a peptide but still applies two rna/dna links. Could you send me (not the list) the part from the pdb file with the Q1 chain? Ralf

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CUA Ligand issue
by Bradley Hintze 08 Apr '11

08 Apr '11

Hello, I am trying to refine PDB 1YEW using the default phenix settings. $phenix.refine 1yew.pdb 1yew.mtz yields: ''' Sorry: Fatal problems interpreting PDB file: Number of atoms with unknown nonbonded energy type symbols: 6 Please edit the PDB file to resolve the problems and/or supply a CIF file with matching restraint definitions, along with apply_cif_modification and apply_cif_link parameter definitions if necessary. ''' $ phenix.ready_set 1YEW_H.pdb yields: ''' Sorry: Atoms in the input are supposed to be bound CU1(CUA) - CU2(CUA) = 2.58 Fix the input file and retry ''' I assume this means that the Cu atoms in CUA are at an inappropriate distance. Is there an easy way to find out what the appropriate distance is? Can I fix this in coot? Thanks, Bradley

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How to define link in phenix (rna3p) ?
by Maehigashi, Tatsuya 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

Hi. I came across with the following post when I was dealing with a similar issue (adding a modified nucleotide to RNA). I could create .cif using elbow/reel as well, but I was wondering where to define the link type between residues in phenix. For RNA, I typically see "rna3p', but with my newly created residue linked to normal oligo, the link is formed, but recognized as Link ID 'p'. Also, the newly created molecule is recognized as 'peptide', although I defined _chem_comp.group in .cif file as RNA. ------------------------------------------ Chain: "Q1" Number of atoms: 74 Number of conformers: 1 Conformer: "" Number of residues, atoms: 3, 74 Classifications: {'RNA': 2, 'peptide': 1} Modifications used: {'5*END': 1, 'rna3p': 2} Link IDs: {'p': 1, 'rna3p': 1} ------------------------------------------ Any input will be appreciated. Sincerely, "T" On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Gerwald Jogl <Gerwald_Jogl at brown.edu<http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb>> wrote: > Hi All, > > I am refining several modified nucleotides in ribosomal RNA > (N2-methyl-guanosine and similar). While the restraints generation with > phenix.reel work quite well, I am unable to get the phosphate oxygen > restraints applied properly. Phenix.refine recognizes the links but for some > reason the phosphate groups come out quite distorted... > > For example, angles after refinement: > O3 (1) - P (2, modified) - OP2 (2) = 80 deg and > O3 (1) - P (2, modified) - OP1 (2) = 127 deg > > > Here is part of the phenix.refine log on reading the coordinates: > > Chain: "A" > Number of atoms: 32526 > Number of conformers: 1 > Conformer: "" > Number of residues, atoms: 1513, 32526 > Unusual residues: {'MA6%rna3p': 2, '5MC%rna3p': 3, '5MC%rna2p': 1, > '7M > G%rna3p': 1, '2MG%rna3p': 1, 'UR3%rna2p': 1, 'M2G%rna3p': 1, '4OC%rna3p': 1} > Classifications: {'undetermined': 11, 'RNA': 1502} > Modifications used: {'5*END': 1, 'rna3p': 1318, 'rna2p': 195} > Link IDs: {'rna3p': 1318, 'rna2p': 194} > Chain breaks: 1 > > I am at a loss about how to fix this as all links and restraints seem to be > in place. > > Many thanks for advice, > Gerwald ________________________________ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments).

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Re: [phenixbb] B-factors vs resolution
by miket＠chem.ucla.edu 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

Usually one will describe ordered parts of a protein vs disordered parts based on B factors. Is the higher resolution protein more ordered and that may have contributed to its stronger diffraction? -- Are the two crystals with different max resolution isomorphous? B-factors contain contributions from both dynamic and static disorder. Your difference in b-factors and resolution are both likely due to the fact that your higher-resolution data comes from a more ordered crystal, not a less dynamic protein. More ordered crystals diffract better, but if the two crystals were grown in the same conditions and the crystals are isomorphous I doubt that there is any difference in the dynamics of the molecules. If you are interested in which parts of your protein are more dynamically disordered you may want to consider (within a single dataset) which atoms have high b-factors relative to the average b-factor for all the atoms in that dataset. Mike -- Michael C. Thompson Graduate Student Biochemistry & Molecular Biology Division Department of Chemistry & Biochemistry University of California, Los Angeles miket(a)chem.ucla.edu

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tools to obtain ADP?
by Jason 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

Hi, Is there a convenient tool to obtain ADP for each chain or ligand or a selective group? phenix.model_vs_data only gives an averaged ADP for everything and it takes really long. Thanks. ====================== Jason Structural Biology Department University of Pittsburgh ======================

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Question about anisotropic refinement
by Louis Lazar 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

I have several structures that I am refining (~1.05A), and I have a question about anisotropic refinement. I have read a couple things about whether or not to refine waters anisotropically, as opposed to hydrogen, which I never refine anisotropoically. I am wondering what the general consensus is on it, and if anyone has anything from the archives (I'm having trouble searching through) or papers that I should read, please don't hesitate to let me see them. Thanks very much in advance Regards, Louis

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Ligand conformations.
by Yuri 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

Has anyone ever reported seeing 2 different binding confromations for a ligand that was soaked vs. the same ligand co-crystallized? -- Yuri Pompeu

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How to fix c-beta deviation?
by Jason 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

Hi, I have tried to regularize my protein structure in coot and use ramachandran restrain to improve statistics (and then release them). However, I can not make the c-beta deviation be zero. Is there some special way to improve c-beta deviation? Thanks. ====================== Jason Structural Biology Department University of Pittsburgh ======================

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B-factors vs resolution
by Yuri 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

I am refining a 1.3 A structure the maps look great and I notice the main chain B factors are all around 7~12. I have refined the same enzyme at resolution 2.2 A and the B factors here were around 25~30. The question that comes to mind is: Usually one will describe ordered parts of a protein vs disordered parts based on B factors. Is the higher resolution protein more ordered and that may have contributed to its stronger diffraction? Or are the B factors values artifacts of refinement? -- Yuri Pompeu

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why are my B factors being "refined"
by Scott Classen 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

Hello Phenix community, I'm currently using nightly build 718, but this behavior is exhibited since sometime in the 1.6.xx releases too. I've turned off ADP refinement (only doing rigid_body refinement) and set the b_iso specifically as such: modify_start_model { selection = None adp { atom_selection = None randomize = None set_b_iso = 55 convert_to_isotropic = None convert_to_anisotropic = None shift_b_iso = None scale_adp = None } Yet the output PDB file has all b-factors in the 100s. Whazzup with that? Thanks, Scott ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Scott Classen, Ph.D. SIBYLS Beamline 12.3.1 sibyls.als.lbl.gov Advanced Light Source Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 1 Cyclotron Rd MS6R2100 Berkeley, CA 94720 C) 510.206.4418 O) 510.495.2697 Beamline) 510.495.2134 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Modeling Disordered Domains
by Damian Ekiert 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

Perhaps inspired by the fierce debate on this BB and elsewhere about how to model disordered side chains, I would like to present the following scenario (my current refinement project): The structure was solved by molecular replacement, is 3.25Å resolution, and ~70% solvent. I have 6 copies of a large complex in the AU (~100kDa per protomer). Only one copy is fully ordered. In the other 5 copies, a entire domain (~25kDa) is largely disordered (some have patchy residual density, but not readily interpretable). Altogether, this means that I am missing ~20% of the total protein in the AU. It seems that how you model this much "missing" material could have a significant effect on the final refined model. This is something we have observed a number of times, so I am wondering if anyone can suggest ways to deal with this aside from just leaving the domains out entirely. In this case, the missing domain is connected by two short hinges that restrict the rotational degrees of freedom considerably (you can think of the missing domains as a door--it can only pivot about the hinge, can't be flipped upside-down or sideways, etc., and is anchored close to the door frame). Additionally, crystal packing and steric constraints restrict the "sweep" of the missing domains to further pinpoint their location. Is it worth trying to model this? My impression from some earlier posts was that most people were content for disordered regions to be modeled as bulk solvent (rather than fiddling with masks to also cover the expected location of protein, etc.), but I wonder if you may actually substantially improve the model when this much protein is disordered. I guess I am imagining something analogous to a rigid body fit to the mean position of the disordered domains and a TLS-like ADP description of the motion (with a very large magnitude to account for the large displacement), but I am open to suggestions. On a final note, regarding those pesky missing side chains: any thoughts on trying to employ a "Ringer"-like approach to model some of these (Fraser, et al., Nature 2009, 462(7273):669-673)? Is this practical (maybe this would add to many additional parameters)? Best, Damian Ekiert

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Re: [phenixbb] occupancy on a special position
by Maia Cherney 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

Hi, I have a water on a two fold axis, I gave it occupancy 0.50, but the program makes it 1.0. I know this was discussed before, but we have to abide by the PDB rules, that is to have this occupancy =0.5. Could you please, fix this problem. Maia

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Question about structure quality
by Jason 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

Hi, I have a refined structure with phenix. The resolution=3.8 angstrom. Molprobity analysis shows following. Can anyone tell me if the structure is acceptable or I need to do something to improve it before going to publication? Thanks. Poor rotamers20.95%Goal: <1%Ramachandran outliers6.15%Goal: <0.2%Ramachandran favored80.13%Goal: >98%Cβ deviations >0.25Å23Goal: 0Residues with bad bonds: 0.00%Goal: 0%Residues with bad angles:0.75% -- ====================== Jason Structural Biology Department University of Pittsburgh ======================

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download Phenix in Windows vista platform
by Bhuiya, Mohammad 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

-------- WARNING: At least one of the links in the message below goes to an .exe file, which could be malicious. To learn how to protect yourself, please go here: http://www.lbl.gov/cyber/services/suspicious-links.html -------- Hi I am a new user in Phenix mailing list. I want to download Phenix in Windows Vista platform to refine structure. I selected 32-bit (Windows XP or newer) [download .exe <https://www.phenix-online.org/download/phenix/nightly/send_octet_stream.cgi…> ] and run it (Phenix version 1.7). I got a new windows with command line (c:/.) UnZipSFX 5.50 of 17 february, by Info-ZIP (ZIP-Bugs(a)list.wku.edu <mailto:[email protected]> ). Replace cci_apps_sources/antlr3/antlrconfig.h.in? [y]es, [n]o, [A]ll------------ I don't know what I should do to install the program, though I used yes/all but it doesn't work. I will appreciate if you help me to install Phenix in Windows Vista platform. Thank you. Wadud

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ICSG 2011 May 10-14, 2011, Toronto
by Thomas C. Terwilliger 05 Apr '11

05 Apr '11

Dear Colleagues, We hope that you are planning to join us in Toronto, Canada for the International Conference on Structural Genomics 2011 which will be held on May 10-14, 2011. We have an excellent scientific program prepared which includes both oral and poster presentations (please see: http://www.icsg2011.org/scientific_program.php ). Participants will also enjoy the fabulous view of the city of Toronto during the banquet to be held at the revolving 360 Restaurant at the top of the CN tower. An optional post-conference tour to Niagara Falls will also be available. We invite you to register on line by April 15, 2011 at 11:59 pm EST. A limited number of late poster abstracts will be accepted until April 12, 2011 at 11:59 pm EST In addition to the main ICSG meeting, there will be a whole day of concurrent satellite workshops (May 10, 2011) that are free for ICSG 2011 registrants, including: Small Molecule Screening Workshop- This hands-on workshop will allow participants to screen a protein of their choice for binding of selected compounds, using thermal shift assays. iSee: Interactive 3D Documents for the Dissemination of Structural Biology - This hands-on workshop will familiarize participants with the iSEE 3D graphical software which allows interactive viewing of 3 dimensional molecular structures and is currently used by journals such as Nature Structural & Molecular Biology and PLoS Biology and PLoS ONE Eukaryotic Gene Expression Systems Workshop - This workshop will provide participants with a detailed understanding of the state-of-the-art for production of eukaryotic proteins destined for biochemical, biophysical, and structural analyses.. Workshop on NMR Methods for Structural Biology- This workshop will survey technologies for structure/function investigations of proteins, developed in (or in collaboration with) structural genomics projects, that are ready for widespread use by the wider biological community. Phenix Crystallography Software Workshop - This workshop will introduce the PHENIX software for macromolecular structure determination and the core algorithms that it uses. It will provide hands-on tutorials for crystallographers of all levels. The workshop registration deadline is Monday April 11, 2011 at 11:59 pm EST Please visit http://www.icsg2011.org <http://www.icsg2011.org/> for ICSG 2011 meeting and workshop registration details and to submit your poster abstract. We hope to see you there! Best regards, Cheryl Arrowsmith ICSG 2011 Organizer Ted Baker Stephen Burley Dino Moras Joel Sussman Shigeyuki Yokoyama Tom Terwilliger ISGO Executive Committee

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Re: [phenixbb] why are my B factors being "refined"
by Scott Classen 05 Apr '11

05 Apr '11

On Apr 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Phil Jeffrey wrote: > Average coordinate B of 100++ might suggest worse than 3.5 Angstrom data. aha! …. Yes, you are correct. : ) I'm struggling with some low res. data. Mainly doing rigid body refinement of various pieces and individual xyz for a few select loops, but NOT refining ADP. Yes, The B-factors are all exactly the same. So I guess this represents the overall B correction. Thanks, Scott

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Mac 64-bit kernel
by Joseph Noel 05 Apr '11

05 Apr '11

Nope. I've set up to always run the 64-bit kernel. I am a bit of a Mac lover so go pretty in depth with the operating system. I think Nat fixed things. For the last many latest builds, I have always installed from the source files for linux/mac to ensure I am running at maximum memory capacity. ___________________________________________________________ Joseph P. Noel, Ph.D. Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute Professor, The Jack H. Skirball Center for Chemical Biology and Proteomics The Salk Institute for Biological Studies 10010 North Torrey Pines Road La Jolla, CA 92037 USA Phone: (858) 453-4100 extension 1442 Cell: (858) 349-4700 Fax: (858) 597-0855 E-mail: noel(a)salk.edu Web Site (Salk): http://www.salk.edu/faculty/noel.html Web Site (HHMI): http://hhmi.org/research/investigators/noel.html ___________________________________________________________ On Apr 4, 2011, at 11:27 AM, phenixbb-request(a)phenix-online.org wrote: > Send phenixbb mailing list submissions to > phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > phenixbb-request(a)phenix-online.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > phenixbb-owner(a)phenix-online.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of phenixbb digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: nqh_flips (Pavel Afonine) > 2. latest 64-bit command line build for Mac OSX 10.6.7? (Joseph Noel) > 3. Re: latest 64-bit command line build for Mac OSX 10.6.7? > (Engin ?zkan) > 4. Re: latest 64-bit command line build for Mac OSX 10.6.7? > (Nathaniel Echols) > 5. Re: latest 64-bit command line build for Mac OSX 10.6.7? > (Ben Eisenbraun) > 6. Re: latest 64-bit command line build for Mac OSX 10.6.7? > (Nathaniel Echols) > 7. Minor map-definition bug in 1.7 GUI (Joe Krahn) > 8. bug report- gui freezed (Kendall Nettles) > 9. Re: bug report- gui freezed (Nathaniel Echols) > 10. Re: Minor map-definition bug in 1.7 GUI (Nathaniel Echols) > 11. Re: latest 64-bit command line build for Mac OSX 10.6.7? > (Nathaniel Echols) > 12. Re: latest 64-bit command line build for Mac OSX 10.6.7? > (Ben Eisenbraun) > 13. Re: latest 64-bit command line build for Mac OSX 10.6.7? > (Ben Eisenbraun) > 14. Modeling Disordered Domains (Damian Ekiert) > 15. Re: latest 64-bit command line build for Mac OSX 10.6.7? > (Nathaniel Echols) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 19:27:24 -0700 > From: Pavel Afonine <pafonine(a)lbl.gov> > To: PHENIX user mailing list <phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org> > Subject: Re: [phenixbb] nqh_flips > Message-ID: <4D97DB0C.9020706(a)lbl.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Maia, > > is the affected residue(s) listed within warning message in .log file > saying that both original and flipped version do not solve the clash? If > so, you may need to have a closer look at that residue to see what's > wrong. Otherwise, we would be interested to see the details... > > Pavel. > > > On 4/2/11 6:08 PM, Maia Cherney wrote: >> Hi, >> I just noticed that the nqh flips did not happen, even though the .def >> file has nqh_flips = True. >> >> Maia > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 10:57:35 -0700 > From: Joseph Noel <noel(a)salk.edu> > To: phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org > Subject: [phenixbb] latest 64-bit command line build for Mac OSX > 10.6.7? > Message-ID: <D7EFB995-80A8-4995-973B-8FFFCC07DFB4(a)salk.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > > I was trying to install the latest nightly build but get error (shown after my salutation) when using the recommended procedure: > > ./install --prefix=/Applications/ > > Previously, I always installed from source so I could run the 64-bit version on Mac since I have some structures that require as much memory as possible. Should I just go back to that? It does take about an hour to install on my laptop. I assume this latest 64-bit option would significantly reduce the time for installation since I wouldn't be compiling from the source. > > Cheers! > > Joe > > ========================================================================== > PHENIX Installation > > version: dev > release tag: 718 > machine type: mac-intel-osx-x86_64 > source machine type: mac-intel-osx > OS version: osx-10.6.7 > user shell: /bin/bash > destination: /Applications/ > ========================================================================= > No binary bundles found for mac-intel-osx > bundles directory contents: > bundle-dev-718-mac-intel-osx-x86_64.tar.gz > expected one of the following: > /Users/sandiegonoels/Downloads/2011-04-03/phenix-installer-dev-718/bundles/bundle-dev-718-mac-intel-osx.tar.gz > > =============================== ERROR =================================== > No binary installer found for mac-intel-osx, installation aborted > =============================== ERROR =================================== > ___________________________________________________________ > Joseph P. Noel, Ph.D. > Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute > Professor, The Jack H. Skirball Center for Chemical Biology and Proteomics > The Salk Institute for Biological Studies > 10010 North Torrey Pines Road > La Jolla, CA 92037 USA > > Phone: (858) 453-4100 extension 1442 > Cell: (858) 349-4700 > Fax: (858) 597-0855 > E-mail: noel(a)salk.edu > > Web Site (Salk): http://www.salk.edu/faculty/noel.html > Web Site (HHMI): http://hhmi.org/research/investigators/noel.html > ___________________________________________________________ > >

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latest 64-bit command line build for Mac OSX 10.6.7?
by Joseph Noel 05 Apr '11

05 Apr '11

Hi, I was trying to install the latest nightly build but get error (shown after my salutation) when using the recommended procedure: ./install --prefix=/Applications/ Previously, I always installed from source so I could run the 64-bit version on Mac since I have some structures that require as much memory as possible. Should I just go back to that? It does take about an hour to install on my laptop. I assume this latest 64-bit option would significantly reduce the time for installation since I wouldn't be compiling from the source. Cheers! Joe ========================================================================== PHENIX Installation version: dev release tag: 718 machine type: mac-intel-osx-x86_64 source machine type: mac-intel-osx OS version: osx-10.6.7 user shell: /bin/bash destination: /Applications/ ========================================================================= No binary bundles found for mac-intel-osx bundles directory contents: bundle-dev-718-mac-intel-osx-x86_64.tar.gz expected one of the following: /Users/sandiegonoels/Downloads/2011-04-03/phenix-installer-dev-718/bundles/bundle-dev-718-mac-intel-osx.tar.gz =============================== ERROR =================================== No binary installer found for mac-intel-osx, installation aborted =============================== ERROR =================================== ___________________________________________________________ Joseph P. Noel, Ph.D. Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute Professor, The Jack H. Skirball Center for Chemical Biology and Proteomics The Salk Institute for Biological Studies 10010 North Torrey Pines Road La Jolla, CA 92037 USA Phone: (858) 453-4100 extension 1442 Cell: (858) 349-4700 Fax: (858) 597-0855 E-mail: noel(a)salk.edu Web Site (Salk): http://www.salk.edu/faculty/noel.html Web Site (HHMI): http://hhmi.org/research/investigators/noel.html ___________________________________________________________

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Minor map-definition bug in 1.7 GUI
by Joe Krahn 05 Apr '11

05 Apr '11

The new GUI has "---" in the list of map types for phenix.refine. Users expect this to mean "don't use map definition". I think there was previously a blank menu entry that worked this way. Instead, it is written to the .def file, and the job gives an error, but otherwise works OK. Thanks, Joe Krahn

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bug report- gui freezed
by Kendall Nettles 05 Apr '11

05 Apr '11

The GUI freezes when an add dialog box is open and a job ends, launching an announcement box (..coot is starting, ready set is done...etc). I can't close either box. Using phenix-1.7-650 on a mac Kendall

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phenix.maps2mtz
by Yarrow Madrona 03 Apr '11

03 Apr '11

Hello, I am running phenix-1.7-650 and would like to generate a ccp4 map for use in pymol from an mtz. I can type: phenix.maps2mtz file.mtz but I cannot figure out how to limmit the selection to a single chain (chain A). I guess you can do this in maps.params but I wanted to keep it simple without having to use the sca file. Thank you. -Yarrow -- Yarrow Madrona Graduate Student Molecular Biology and Biochemistry Dept. University of California, Irvine Natural Sciences I, Rm 2403 Irvine, CA 92697

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"FOM" or HL coeffs from model?
by Phoebe Rice 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

How can I get phenix to spit out not just PhiModel but an estimated FOM or fake HL coefficients (without experimental phases - just based on how badly my model agrees with FOBS)? And I'd like the weights in their own personal mtz column(s), not just precombined in a "weighted phi" column. In case anybody cares why, I'd like to use solvent massaging and domain-wise averaging to remove bias from a low-resolution model-phased map, preferably with DM, unless anybody has a better suggestion. I did rigid body, TLS, etc on the model in phenix, so it seems like phenix has already calculated all the info I want if I could only squeeze it out. thanks, Phoebe ===================================== Phoebe A. Rice Dept. of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology The University of Chicago phone 773 834 1723 http://bmb.bsd.uchicago.edu/Faculty_and_Research/01_Faculty/01_Faculty_Alph… http://www.rsc.org/shop/books/2008/9780854042722.asp

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phenix.reciprocal_space_arrays: a new command line tool to get Fcalc, Fbulk, Fmask, FOM, HL, and more all in one MTZ file
by Pavel Afonine 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

PHENIX users: just a quick notice: starting PHENIX nightly build version dev-717 and up, a new command line tool phenix.reciprocal_space_arrays will be available. This tool takes a PDB model and a data file (in most of commonly used formats: MTZ, CNS, SHELX,...) and outputs a MTZ file containing a number of arrays that are typically used in various crystallographic calculations, such as R-factors, maps, refinement targets, etc. The output arrays include: Fmodel, Fcalc, Fmask, Fbulk, FOM, resolution, HL(input original, computed from model and combined), FB_CART (overall anisotropic scale), input Fobs and Rfree-flags and more. To run: phenix.reciprocal_space_arrays model.pdb data.mtz To see the result: phenix.mtz.dump output_file.mtz Please let me know should you have any questions, suggestions or simply find a bug! Pavel.

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low resolution map weirdness with newer releases
by Scott Classen 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

Something changed between build 432 and 486 that made my low resolution maps look much crappier. See attached tiff. See if you can guess which map was produced by the release 486. def file looks more or less like this (from a --diff-params): refinement { crystal_symmetry { unit_cell = top secret space_group = top secret } input { pdb { file_name = "../4_23_003.pdb" } xray_data { file_name = "../4_23.sca.mtz" labels = "4_23.sca,SIG4_23.sca" high_resolution = 3.9 r_free_flags { file_name = "../4_23.sca.mtz" label = "R-free-flags" test_flag_value = 1 } } } output { prefix = "test-486" serial = 1 } refine { strategy = *individual_sites individual_sites_real_space rigid_body \ individual_adp group_adp tls occupancies group_anomalous sites { individual = "chain A and resseq 100:107" individual = "chain B and resseq 500:507" individual = "chain E and resseq 100:107" individual = "chain F and resseq 500:507" individual = "chain C and resseq 111:117" individual = "chain D and resseq 111:117" individual = "chain G and resseq 111:117" individual = "chain H and resseq 111:117" individual = "chain C and resseq 63:68" individual = "chain D and resseq 63:68" individual = "chain G and resseq 63:68" individual = "chain H and resseq 63:68" rigid_body = "chain A" rigid_body = "chain B" rigid_body = "chain C" rigid_body = "chain D" rigid_body = "chain E" rigid_body = "chain F" rigid_body = "chain G" rigid_body = "chain H" } } main { number_of_macro_cycles = 1 secondary_structure_restraints = True random_seed = 3141766 optimize_mask = False } modify_start_model { adp { set_b_iso = 50 } } fake_f_obs { mask { ignore_hydrogens = True } } geometry_restraints.edits { excessive_bond_distance_limit = 20 } mask { ignore_hydrogens = True } simulated_annealing { start_temperature = 300 final_temperature = 200 } target_weights { wxc_scale = 0.4 } ias { b_iso_max = 60 } secondary_structure { h_bond_restraints { substitute_n_for_h = True remove_outliers = False sigma = 0.02 h_o_distance_ideal = 2.95 h_o_distance_max = 5 n_o_distance_ideal = 2.95 n_o_distance_max = 5 } }

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omit map
by intekhab alam 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

Hi i generated an iterative build omit map using phenix and the output fule that i got is resolve_composite_map.mtz, but i cannot open this file in coot, what modifications do ineed to open this file in coot. Regards -- INTEKHAB ALAM LABORATORY OF STRUCTURAL BIOINFORMATICS KOREA UNIVERSITY, SEOUL

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Bulk solvent correction
by Ina Lindemann 31 Mar '11

31 Mar '11

Hi, I am refining two crystal structures of the same protein wtih four domains and 687 amino acids. These are the last lines form my log-files after several model building steps - protein altogether fits quite well into the density. But I am confused about these logfiles: 1.Why is there such a big difference between R values with and without bulk solvent correction and anisotropic scale? Start R-work = 0.3765, R-free = 0.5498 (no bulk solvent and anisotropic scale) Final R-work = 0.3733, R-free = 0.5509 (no bulk solvent and anisotropic scale) Start R-work = 0.2356, R-free = 0.2962 Final R-work = 0.2250, R-free = 0.2939 2. (the other structure) Why does the R value without bulk solvent and anisotropic scale decrease so much but with it remains stable? Start R-work = 0.2182, R-free = 0.2856 (no bulk solvent and anisotropic scale) Final R-work = 0.4054, R-free = 0.4223 (no bulk solvent and anisotropic scale) Start R-work = 0.2157, R-free = 0.2827 Final R-work = 0.2147, R-free = 0.2816 I would be very pleased about any helpful comments. Ina Ina Lindemann Philipps-Universität Marburg Pharmazeutische Chemie AG Klebe Marbacher Weg 6 35032 Marburg Tel.: 06421/2825908

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what to do with disordered side chains
by Ed Pozharski 31 Mar '11

31 Mar '11

The results of the online survey on what to do with disordered side chains (from total of 240 responses): Delete the atoms 43% Let refinement take care of it by inflating B-factors 41% Set occupancy to zero 12% Other 4% "Other" suggestions were: - Place atoms in most likely spot based on rotomer and contacts and indicate high positional sigmas on ATMSIG records - To invent refinement that will spread this residues over many rotamers as this is what actually happened - Delet the atoms but retain the original amino acid name - choose the most common rotamer (B-factors don't "inflate", they just rise slightly) - Depends. if the disordered region is unteresting, delete atoms. Otherwise, try to model it in one or more disordered model (and then state it clearly in the pdb file) - In case that no density is in the map, model several conformations of the missing segment and insert it into the PDB file with zero occupancies. It is equivalent what the NMR people do. - Model it in and compare the MD simulations with SAXS - I would assumne Dale Tronrod suggestion the best. Sigatm labels. - Let the refinement inflate B-factors, then set occupancy to zero in the last round. Thanks to all for participation, Ed. -- "I'd jump in myself, if I weren't so good at whistling." Julian, King of Lemurs

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phenix migration
by Xtal_bb 31 Mar '11

31 Mar '11

Hi guys, I have just got a brand new iMac, to replace my MacBook, in which I used to run phenix. I have installed phenix in the new iMac, and copied the directory with all the files of my previous runs. However, what should I migrate to have the projects and previous work recognized by the fresh install? Thanks for the help, ciao s -- Sebastiano Pasqualato, PhD Crystallography Unit IFOM-IEO Campus Cogentech - Consortium for Genomic Technologies via Adamello, 16 20139 - Milano Italy tel +39 02 9437 5172 fax +39 02 9437 5990

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how convert mtz in xplor format
by fulvio saccoccia 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Greetings to all, Does anyone know how convert a .mtz file into a xplor format file? Thanks in advance Fulvio Saccoccia

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rotamers
by Ed Pozharski 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Does refine restrains side chain rotamers to, say, the closest one from the rotamer dictionary or, perhaps, the starting coordinates (I find this less likely, of course)? I am particularly interested in what would happen if a side chain is disordered and there is no strong electron density to support a specific conformation. Do I understand correctly that the real-space refinement for the side chains is on by default, which means that disordered side chains would tend to stay within their biased density? I apologize if I missed the description of this in the manual, just point me to the right section then. Cheers, Ed. -- "I'd jump in myself, if I weren't so good at whistling." Julian, King of Lemurs

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