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placing ligands in coot with phenix.elbow output
by Feldman III, George Franklin 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

Hi all, I am having difficulties with my ligand. My ligand is an FMN (flavin mononucleotide) and its pdb file was originally created using PRODRG. I used the DRGFIN.PDB output file to run elbow (phenix.elbow DRGFIN.PDB --opt). The output contains hydrogens, which as we all know do not work well with coot. So when I try to place my ligand in its correct position and save the coordinates in coot, I get an error of duplicated atom labels when trying to merge the molecule to the ligand using phenix.refine. I tried using the command "phenix.elbow DRGFIN.PDB --opt --write-hydrogens=False" but phenix told me that last command doesnt exist (although its posted on the web page). Manually changing the atom names will affect both the connectivity and the cif file (I think), so it is an option I would rather avoid. Is there a way around all of this? Best Regards, George (Trey) Feldman

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Re: [phenixbb] [phenix] generate r free flags in phenix.refine not obeying high resolution limit?
by Pascal EGEA 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

Hi All, Following Pavel's answer to Francis Reyes, I have a very basic question about this too. What is a good distribution of reflections and what are thin bins of resolution to ensure correct ML estimations? Are there any basic statistical rules that should be considered. Thanks Pascal Pascal F. Egea, PhD Post Doctoral Researcher University of California San Francisco Department of Biophysics and Biochemistry Robert Stroud Laboratory pascal(a)msg.ucsf.edu

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generate r free flags in phenix.refine not obeying high resolution limit?
by Francis E Reyes 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

Hi all When generating R-Free flags from phenix refine, flags are generated all the way to the limit of the data. However, shouldn't flags be generated up to the limit of the data if specified via refinement.input.xray_data.high_resolutio n ? If not, are the statistics for R/Rfree matching to high resolution data that may be suspicious ? Thanks FR --------------------------------------------- Francis Reyes M.Sc. 215 UCB University of Colorado at Boulder gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 67BA8D5D 8AE2 F2F4 90F7 9640 28BC 686F 78FD 6669 67BA 8D5D

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(no subject)
by Sudharsan Sridharan 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

Hi all, A quick question about extracting info/preparing pdb file for deposition.......... I've got a pdb file after refinement using phenix 1.3b. I was wondering if there is a way to prepare this file / format this the same way as in 1.3 final where we get "REMARK IF THIS FILE IS FOR PDB DEPOSITION: REMOVE ALL FROM THIS LINE UP" and REMARK 3. i'm already running refinement 1.3 final with the same parameters just to quickly compare the resulting refined files/numbers. I guess I could do it manually but curious if there is an easier way using 1.3 final. thanks, Sid.

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Resolution cutoffs. Always debated?
by Francis E Reyes 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

I need to put this in front of (this) crystallographic community. What are the criteria for cutting a resolution for data reduction ? Rmerge, I/sig, mean I/sig, completeness... more? I once believed that I/Sig (not averaged) greater than 2 was the cutoff, but I've read online (particularly http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg02576.html) that this is no longer the case because of maximum likelihood. I would love to know why this is the case as well as poll the community on how they cut off their data. Thanks FR --------------------------------------------- Francis Reyes M.Sc. 215 UCB University of Colorado at Boulder gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 67BA8D5D 8AE2 F2F4 90F7 9640 28BC 686F 78FD 6669 67BA 8D5D

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Autobuild builds more residues after MR?
by Francis E Reyes 19 Aug '08

19 Aug '08

Perhaps a silly question, but suppose after MR, there is additional density to be built (say, another molecule). Will the autobuild after mr build into this new density? Thanks FR --------------------------------------------- Francis Reyes M.Sc. 215 UCB University of Colorado at Boulder gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 67BA8D5D 8AE2 F2F4 90F7 9640 28BC 686F 78FD 6669 67BA 8D5D

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ALS user meeting
by Peter Zwart 18 Aug '08

18 Aug '08

Dear All, I would like to draw your attention to this years ALS user meeting, held from October 13-15. In particular, the workshop titled "Recent advances in the automation of protein crystallography" might be of interest to the protein crystallographic community. The workshop consists of a series of short talks and a hands-on session in which various developers and beamline staff will demo latest developments on their beamlines. Scheduled speakers include: Gyorgy Snell (Takeda SD) Aina Cohen (SSRL) Jay Nix (ALS beamline 4.2.2) Babu Pothineni ( GMCA cat, APS) Scheduled Demonstrations are (tentative titles only) : * Efficient screening and data collection using Mini & WebIce (Bl. 5.0.n) Peter Zwart, John Taylor & Nick Sauter * Data collection @ 4.2.2 Jay Nix * SSRL & Webice Aina Cohen * Automated structure solution with PHENIX P. Afonine * Elves & 8.3.1 J. Holton Detailed workshop information can be found at http://bcsb.als.lbl.gov/wiki/index.php/ALS2008_Workshop Other workshops of interest held during the ALS user meeting can be found here: http://www-als.lbl.gov/als/usermtg/workshops.html Registration is now open for all participants: http://www-als.lbl.gov/als/usermtg/index.html Greetings Peter Zwart -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- P.H. Zwart Beamline Scientist Berkeley Center for Structural Biology Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratories 1 Cyclotron Road, Berkeley, CA-94703, USA BCSB: http://bcsb.als.lbl.gov PHENIX: http://www.phenix-online.org CCTBX: http://cctbx.sf.net -----------------------------------------------------------------

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sharing the ext_ref_files between multiple installations
by Ben Eisenbraun 18 Aug '08

18 Aug '08

Howdy, I'm wondering if it's possible for me to put the ext_ref_files directory into a shared location and then symlink that directory into multiple PHENIX installations to save some disk space. Are the files specific to a particular PHENIX version? Or to a specific CPU architecture? Thanks. -ben -- Ben Eisenbraun Structural Biology Grid Harvard Medical School http://sbgrid.org http://hms.harvard.edu

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anomalous difference map calculation option in phenix.refine
by Pavel Afonine 18 Aug '08

18 Aug '08

For many of you who asked for anomalous difference map calculation option in phenix.refine: this is fixed and available in just announced PHENIX release. Pavel.

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MemoryError
by Yingjie Zhou 18 Aug '08

18 Aug '08

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PHENIX 1.3 Available
by Paul Adams 18 Aug '08

18 Aug '08

======================================================================== ===== PHENIX 1.3 Release ======================================================================== ===== The PHENIX developers are pleased to announce that the 1.3 general release version of PHENIX is now available. Binary installers for Linux, and Mac OSX platforms are available at the download site: http://phenix-online.org/download/ This version of PHENIX includes tools for: - Assessing data quality (phenix.xtriage) - Includes the detection of twinning, tNCS, and missed symmetries - Automated structure solution (phenix.autosol) - Combines automated substructure solution (phenix.hyss) with phasing (Phaser/SOLVE), substructure completion, phase improvement (RESOLVE) and fast initial model building (RESOLVE) - Automated molecular replacement (phenix.automr) - Maximum likelihood molecular replacement with Phaser - Automated protein and DNA/RNA model building/rebuilding (phenix.autobuild) - Combines automated model building (RESOLVE), phase improvement (RESOLVE) and structure refinement (phenix.refine) - Automated ligand fitting (phenix.ligandfit) - Fitting a known ligand or screening against a library of the 200 most common ligands - Structure refinement (phenix.refine) - Maximum likelihood targets, simulated annealing, TLS, constrained occupancy refinement, f'/f'' refinement, water picking, anisotropic B-factor refinement, twinned refinement, automatic treatment of alternate conformations, and joint refinement against X-ray and neutron data - Generation of ligand coordinates and restraints (phenix.elbow/ phenix.reel) - Input formats include SMILES and PDB - Restraints can be manipulated with the phenix.reel GUI Full documentation is available here: http://www.phenix-online.org/documentation/ There is a PHENIX bulletin board: http://www.phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb/ Please consult the installer README file or online documentation for installation instructions. Direct questions and problem reports to the bulletin board or: help(a)phenix-online.org and bugs(a)phenix-online.org Commercial users interested in obtaining access to PHENIX should visit the PHENIX website for information about the PHENIX Industrial Consortium. The development of PHENIX is principally funded by the National Institute of General Medical Sciences (NIH) under grant P01-GM063210. We also acknowledge the generous support of the members of the PHENIX Industrial Consortium. ======================================================================== ===== PHENIX 1.3 Release ======================================================================== ===== -- Paul Adams Deputy Division Director, Physical Biosciences Division, Lawrence Berkeley Lab Adjunct Professor, Department of Bioengineering, U.C. Berkeley Vice President for Technology, the Joint BioEnergy Institute Head, Berkeley Center for Structural Biology Building 64, Room 248 Tel: 510-486-4225, Fax: 510-486-5909 http://cci.lbl.gov/paul Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory 1 Cyclotron Road BLDG 64R0121 Berkeley, CA 94720, USA. --

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HL coefficients from phenix.refine?
by William Scott 16 Aug '08

16 Aug '08

Is there a simple way to output HL coefficients in refinement, rather than just map coefficients? William G. Scott Contact info: http://chemistry.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/

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Re: [phenixbb] Neutron exchangeable hydrogen/deuterium positions diverge
by Anna S Gardberg 15 Aug '08

15 Aug '08

Hi, Pavel. That's good to know. (Not pressure you, but) any idea roughly when that will be? -Anna On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Pavel Afonine <PAfonine(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > Hi Anna, > > Are they very different? I can easily change the code so phenix.refine makes > them identical. The question is do we really need it? I'm not arguing but > just asking. > > > A quick sampling of a handful of residues showed that the separation > at SER and THR HG/DG positions ranged from 0.37 to 1.2 Angstroem. It > seems to me that those values are too high and that there does need to > be a way to constrain them to (or at least restrain them toward) zero. > The separation at the amide positions was much less - 0.04-0.06 > Angstroem. > > > OK, I will add an option to do this. It will appear in one of the next > PHENIX releases. > > Please let me know if you have any other questions or problems! > > All the best, > Pavel. > >

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Neutron exchangeable hydrogen/deuterium positions diverge
by Anna S Gardberg 14 Aug '08

14 Aug '08

Hello, PhenixBB. I am doing joint x-ray/neutron refinement of a hydrogenated protein crystal soaked in D2O buffers, and I've run into a problem with refinement. I hope you can help. I used phenix.ready_set to add deuterium atoms to the exchangeable hydrogen positions. I ran a perl script to set the initial occupancies of those to 0.5 H and 0.5 D (they had been output as 1.0). When I ran phenix.refine with riding hydrogen positions or with individual hydrogen positions, the H and D atoms refined to different positions. How can I constrain the H and D positions to be identical? Regards, Anna Gardberg -- Anna Gardberg Research Associate, Postdoctoral Center for Structural Molecular Biology Oak Ridge National Laboratory Bldg. 4500S, M/S 6142 Oak Ridge TN 37831-6142 phone: 865-576-2173

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phenix.twin_map_utils AssertionError
by hari jayaram 14 Aug '08

14 Aug '08

Hi I am trying to run the following command phenix.twin_map_utils data.file=cy_p10_2_28.1_unique1.mtz model.file=cy_p10_2_28.1.pdb obs_labels=F_p10-2,SIGF_p10-2 free_flag=FreeR_flag When I run phenix.twin_map_utils from phenix version 1.3 final or from the newest cci_aps. I get the following AssertionError ( see below). I think my mtz file is kosher because phenix.refine with the twin_law option handles it well and I can refine with a twin law. Is there something wrong in the syntax or the file. I am attaching the log file with the Assertion Error to this email. Thanks for your help Hari Overall and bulk solvent scale paranmeters and twin fraction estimation ======================================================================= Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Users/hari/cci_apps_sources/mmtbx/mmtbx/command_line/twin_map_utils.py", line 7, in <module> twin_map_utils.run(args=sys.argv[1:]) File "/Users/hari/cci_apps_sources/mmtbx/mmtbx/twinning/twin_map_utils.py", line 306, in run out=log) File "/Users/hari/cci_apps_sources/mmtbx/mmtbx/twinning/twin_f_model.py", line 946, in __init__ assert self.f_obs.indices().all_eq( self.free_array.indices() ) AssertionError

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phenix pdp files and coot - FIXED
by nihmmayerm 13 Aug '08

13 Aug '08

Hi, The problem was that coot choked on the TER and BREAK lines in the PDB, once I removed these 0.4.1 reads the phenix PDBs fine. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I've just finished refinements with latest version of phenix (/phenix-1.3-final/build/mac-intel-osx/bin/phenix) in which I used riding hydrogens added with reduc (Molprobity) version and TLS - so I have anisou records - and a bunch of acs. When I open files in coot (coot/0.4.1/bin/coot) I see only 1 chain (I have a dimer chain A and B) and no solvent or other heteroatoms. The file displays fine in pymol - but I want to rebuild with coot. Any ideas ? I'm using the SBGrid install of coot, and a local installation of phenix. Thanks - Mark

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phenix pdp files and coot
by nihmayerm 13 Aug '08

13 Aug '08

Hi, I've just finished refinements with latest version of phenix (/phenix-1.3-final/build/mac-intel-osx/bin/phenix) in which I used riding hydrogens added with refine (Molprobity) version and TLS - so I have anisou records - and a bunch of acs. When I open files in coot (coot/0.4.1/bin/coot) I see only 1 chain (I have a dimer chain A and B) and no solvent or other heteroatoms. The file displays fine in pymol - but I want to rebuild with coot. Any ideas ? I'm using the SBGrid install of coot, and a local installation of phenix. Thanks - Mark

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Segmentation fault with twin-law refinement
by hari jayaram 13 Aug '08

13 Aug '08

Hi I have discovered that my data in the P3 spacegroup is potentially twinned. Truncate and phenix.xtriage indicate that the twin fraction is pretty high ( between 0.35 and 0.42). I am still new to twinned data refinement and still dont know which twin law to pick from the three possibilities for P3 that xtriage lists. I am emailing because , Regardless of the twin law I try , phenix.refine crashes with a Segmentation fault on my Mac Pro leopard 10.5.2 running phenix. 1.3b-rc6 The command that ends with a Python crash and segmentation fault is Command used: phenix.refine cy_p10_2_28.1.pdb cy_p10_2_28.1_unique1.mtz simulated_annealing=true model.ncs refinement.main.ncs=true --overwrite refinement.ncs.excessive_distance_limit=None strategy=group_adp+individual_sites twin_law='-h,-k,l' refinement.input.xray_data.labels=F_p10-2,SIGF_p10-2 > phenix_run2_mhmkl_simulanneal.log phenix.xtriage outputs Statistics depending on twin laws ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Operator | type | R obs. | Britton alpha | H alpha | ML alpha | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | -h,-k,l | M | 0.100 | 0.406 | 0.407 | 0.393 | | h,-h-k,-l | M | 0.071 | 0.426 | 0.439 | 0.458 | | -k,-h,-l | M | 0.090 | 0.411 | 0.417 | 0.415 | ------------------------------------------------------------------ Can you tell me if there is something I am doing wrong . Thanks a tonne for your help Hari Jayaram Postdoc , Brandeis University

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phenix.reduce
by Mayer, Mark (NIH/NICHD) [E] 13 Aug '08

13 Aug '08

Hi, Does phenix.reduce correctly handle pdb files with alt confs? I ran reduce on such a file ang got a warning that only A was used, and when i checked output there were no H on AC B residues. I then sent file to Molprobity server, ran reduce, and now there are H on residues for both ACs. I'm doing this so I can refine with riding hydrogens. Thanks MLM

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secondary structure restraints
by Nikos Pinotsis 11 Aug '08

11 Aug '08

Dear all, I am refinining a 3.5 A structure where several of fragments are already determined in higher resolution (similar to the case I found below). In addition a large part of the structure is quite disordered (two out of four chains). I found a reply about a year ago that secondary structure restraints are not implemented in phenix, is there any new developements that can help the refinement in low resolution? (I have already employed NCS other common posibilities). thank you in advance for any help and best regards Nikos >/ On May 4, 2007, at 5:10 PM, Pavel Afonine wrote: />/ />>/ Hi Jianghai, />>/ />>/ I see several possibilities to think about or/and try out: />>/ />>/ 1) Fix the coordinates of atoms in the domains for which the high />>/ resolution structure is available and refine the rest; />>/ 2) Refine the domains for which the high resolution structure is />>/ available as rigid bodies and for the rest refine individual parameters; />>/ 3) There is no specific option in phenix.refine to restrain the />>/ secondary structure elements, however there is a tedious way of doing />>/ this (according to Ralf) by defining custom bonds and angles between />>/ specific atoms forming the secondary structure motifs. Look />>/ "Definition of custom bonds and angles" in the latest CCI Apps />>/ phenix.refine documentation for technical details. />>/ />>/ You can perform "1)" and "2)" in ONE refinement run by combining />>/ several refinement strategies and using specific selections for />>/ refinable parameters. />>/ />>/ Overall, at 3.8A resolution the refinement of individual atomic />>/ parameters (coordinates, B-factors) is questionable. I would consider />>/ to try to refine group parameters for B-factors (trough TLS or/and />>/ group B (like one B per residue)) and try to switch between rigid />>/ body refinement of smaller fragments of your model and refinement />>/ individual positional parameters or mix of individual and rigid body />>/ refinement. />>/ />>/ Also, I will think about making a specific option for automatic />>/ generation of secondary structure restrains. However, given the />>/ amount of work it may require this option will not appear in near future. />>/ />>/ Pavel. />>/ />>/ />>/ Jianghai Zhu wrote: />>>/ Hi all, />>>/ />>>/ I am refining a low resolution structure (~3.8 A). For some of the />>>/ domains in the structure, we already have high resolution />>>/ structures. Despite of some conformational changes in some loops, />>>/ the core structures should be the same. I am wondering if it is />>>/ possible to restrain the secondary structures in phenix.refine. />>>/ />>>/ Thanks. />>>/ />>>/ Jianghai/ -- --------------------------------- Dr. Nikos Pinotsis Section of Structural Biology Institute of Cancer Research Chester Beatty Laboratories 237 Fulham Road London SW3 6JB, UK Tel: +44 20 7153 5453 / 5447 --------------------------------- The Institute of Cancer Research: Royal Cancer Hospital, a charitable Company Limited by Guarantee, Registered in England under Company No. 534147 with its Registered Office at 123 Old Brompton Road, London SW7 3RP. This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer and network.

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dihedral error
by Simon Kolstoe 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

phenix.refine keeps on stopping with the error: AssertionError: Conflicting dihedral restraints: tor id: var_002 1. definition from: residue: DRG, conformer A 2. definition from: residue: DRG, conformer A atoms: " CB DRG A 500 " " OG1 DRG A 500 " " PAL DRG A 500 " " OAF DRG A 500 " It is for a phospho-threonine residue whose dictionary I made in PRODRG. I've tried all the different charge states of the phosphate however phenix gives the same error every time. Any ideas? Thanks, Simon

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ncs in phenix.autobuild
by wang kaituo 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

Hi all, I failed in running phenix.autobuild. The end of the logfile said : ______________________________________________________ Build cycle 2 of 11 method:rebuild ...Using simple_ncs_from_pdb to find NCS Residues expected: [62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74] Residues found : [] ******************************************************************************** Failed to carry out AutoBuild_build_cycle: Did not find expected residues in get_xyz_list _____________________________________________________________ The two ncs chain sequence is not exactly same , some sidechain missing and some connectivity not well. But the residue 62-74 is there in both chains. Have the ncs group to be exactly same to find NCS? how can i fix this? ps: phenix.simple_ncs_from_map works well with my pdb. using the ncs_spec file also not works many thanks kaituo

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riding hydrogens
by Jianghai Zhu 06 Aug '08

06 Aug '08

Hi, I used phenix.reduce to add riding hydrogens. After phenix.refine, the structure got a good score from MolProbity. However, if I stripped the riding hydrogens from the structure and let MolProbity to add hydrogens before the analysis, I got a much worse score, especially the clash score. Does phenix.refine refine the hydrogen positions? -- Jianghai

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DNA restraints
by jens j birktoft 06 Aug '08

06 Aug '08

Hi, Is there a way to restrain selected hydrogen bonds between base pairs during the refinement of DNA structures ? CNS has something like DNA_RNA.def if I remember correctly and I am looking for something of that nature. Cheers Jens -- Jens J. Birktoft - e-mail: jens.knold(a)gmail.com slow-mail: 350 Central Park West, Suite 9F, New York, NY 10025 use 212-749-5057 for ALL phone calls

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Deborah Palestrant is out of the office.
by deborah.palestrant＠novartis.com 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

I will be out of the office starting 08/05/2008 and will not return until 08/11/2008.

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torsion angle dynamics simulated annealing?
by Bryan W. Lepore 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

i was wondering if someone could comment on any possibility of implementing torsion angle dynamics in phenix's simulated annealing procedure, in a future release of phenix? i.e. is that "in the works"? thanks! -bryan 1

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phenix.refine: Override 'Number of bonds with excessive lengths'
by Martin.Laurberg 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

Dear All, Is there a way to override the phenix.refine Setup Restraints Manager, preventing phenix.refine from terminating if the model features a lot of excessive bond lenghts? Thanks, /Martin ========================== Set up restraints manager ========================== .... Bonds with excessive lengths: Distance model: 50.2364 (ideal: 1.525) ATOM 1336 C3' DC B 20 12.611 28.560 12.463 1.00 42.81 C ATOM 1338 C2' DC B 20 -11.801 15.989 54.531 1.00 42.03 C .... Sorry: Number of bonds with excessive lengths: 71 -- Martin Laurberg, PhD Noller Laboratory 225 Sinsheimer Laboratories University of California at Santa Cruz CA-95064 Santa Cruz USA Tel +1 (831) 459 35 84 Fax +1 (831) 459 37 37

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Wishful thinking with AutoBuild?
by Francis E Reyes 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

Hello all Given a mediocre to bad experimental density map, what hopes does AutoBuild have of building a model? i.e. Should I be able to tell clear helicies and side chain density in the experimental density map before even attempting an autobuild? Thanks FR --------------------------------------------- Francis Reyes M.Sc. 215 UCB University of Colorado at Boulder gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 67BA8D5D 8AE2 F2F4 90F7 9640 28BC 686F 78FD 6669 67BA 8D5D

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GUI inactivity
by David Hoover 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

We have RedHat Enterprise Linux 5, and the Phenix installation went just fine. When I fired up the GUI, it looked ok, but the inset was blank. Many of the buttons seemed inactive as well. Is there any support for installation beyond that on the web page? David Hoover, Helix Systems Staff, CIT/NIH

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Ordered solvent - wish list
by Jendrek 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

Hi All, On the matter of ordered solvent I was just wondering if fixing specific waters (like ones close to metals) was implemented in the latest release. Also, it would be a nice touch if the water list was ordered according to some criteria. In my lab we prefer to have them in decreasing B factors - but that is just wishing... Regards, Andrzej -- Andrzej LYSKOWSKI, Ph.D. (andrzej[.]lyskowski[(a)]helsinki[.]fi) Institute of Biotechnology - Structural Biology & Biophysics P. O. Box 65 - Viikinkaari 1 Floor/Room: 4/4316 Mail: FIN-00014 University of HELSINKI, FINLAND Delivery: FIN-00710 University of HELSINKI, FINLAND TEL.: 358 9 191 58921 FAX : 358 9 191 59940

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ordered solvent - parameters?
by Mark Collins 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

Hi All I was just going through the .help section and website documentation for ordered_solvent. And wonder if somebody could enlighten me as too the meanings of; ordered_solvent { primary_map_type = mFobs-DFmodel secondary_map_type = 2mFobs-DFmodel h_bond_min_mac = 1.8 h_bond_min_sol = 1.8 h_bond_max = 3.2 } peak_search { map_next_to_model { use_hydrogens = False } max_number_of_peaks = None peak_search { peak_search_level = 1 max_peaks = 0 interpolate = True min_distance_sym_equiv = None general_positions_only = False min_cross_distance = 1.8 } What is the difference between the primary and secondary map? Is there away to pick sites in one and remove in another? Eg. pick sites at 3 sigma in FoFc and remove if 1.2 sigma in 2FoFc. I thought h-bonding was generously about 2.4-3.6A so why the 1.8 and 3.2 defaults? Also if use_hydrogens = True, does the refinement use h_bond parameters instead of model_peak_dist and peak_peak_dist parameters, or both? Also what do all of the peak_search parameters do? And finally does anyone have any recommendations for progessively changing the ordered_solvent parameters? In CNS we used to gradually lower the 2FoFc peak picking (and deleting) and increase the bfactor_max for deleting? Thanks Mark

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Maintaining the sugar puckerings
by YS. Chung 31 Jul '08

31 Jul '08

Hi all, I have a protein-DNA structure at 3 angstroms that I have been refining with refmac5. I have recently started to look into using phenix.refine instead. However, I am still having some problems with the sugar puckering of my DNA which is an ideal B-DNA and should be kept C2'-endo, but keeps changing to C1'-exo or C3'-endo after refinement with phenix. I have looked at the .cif files for the DNA and may update the restraints. Is this the easiest way to go about restraining the sugar puckering? Thank you, Yu Seon Chung

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calculating a phased anomalous difference map for twinned data in phenix.refine
by Michael Hothorn 31 Jul '08

31 Jul '08

Hi, to confirm the nature of a metal ion in my active site, I want to calculate a phased anomalous difference map in phenix.refine. However my crystals in SG P3(2) are twinned with twin law h,-h-k,-l and a fraction of about 40%. Is there a way to calculate an informative map in phenix.refine in this case? best Michael

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SA-omit maps for carbohydrates
by Enrico Girardi 30 Jul '08

30 Jul '08

Dear All, I would like to create a SA-omit map for two carbohydrate chains present in my structure. My attempts using the command phenix.autobuild data=data.mtz model=final.pdb omit_box_pdb=cho2.pdb composite_omit_type=sa_omit lead to a message in the log file saying: Failed to carry out AutoBuild_set_up_build: Sorry, unable to define an omit region with cho2.pdb res_start = None res end = None chain = '' ? Possibly no atoms? The procedure works fine with protein residues so I am assuming that phenix.autobuild is ignoring the sugars in the original pdb file (as it says in the log file..). Is this correct? How can I fix the problem? I am running Phenix 1.3b. Many thanks in advance for your help. Regards Enrico -- Enrico Girardi Randall Division of Cell and Molecular Biophysics King's College London New Hunt's House Guy's Campus London SE1 1UL Tel +44 (0)20 7848 6419 Fax +44 (0)20 7848 6435

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New PHENIX prerelease 1.3-rc4
by Paul Adams 28 Jul '08

28 Jul '08

Dear PHENIX Users, there is a new prerelease of PHENIX available (1.3, release candidate 4). It can be downloaded from the PHENIX web page as usual: http://www.phenix-online.org/ Cheers, Paul -- Paul Adams Deputy Division Director, Physical Biosciences Division, Lawrence Berkeley Lab Adjunct Professor, Department of Bioengineering, U.C. Berkeley Vice President for Technology, the Joint BioEnergy Institute Head, Berkeley Center for Structural Biology Building 64, Room 248 Tel: 1-510-486-4225, Fax: 1-510-486-5909 http://cci.lbl.gov/paul Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory 1 Cyclotron Road BLDG 64R0121 Berkeley, CA 94720, USA. Administrator: Delia Clark [ DNClark(a)lbl.gov ][ 1-510-486-6331 ] --

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phenix.automr
by Ivan Campeotto 28 Jul '08

28 Jul '08

Dear All, I am trying to use Phenix AutoMR followed by Autobuild. The problem is that in the output file "overall_best_refine_map_coeffs.mtz" from Autobuild the Fc values have been set to zero. The Fc values are not zero in the output file MR.1.mtz coming from AutoMR if it may be of help. Any suggestion to fix this problem will be appreciated. Thank you in advance Ivan

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phenix.automr problem
by allbette＠gmail.com 25 Jul '08

25 Jul '08

Dear all I tried to solve a structure by using phenix.automr. I am not sure how many molecules in the asymmetric unit(2-8molecules). How I can tell phenix.automr (phaser) that search at least 2 molecules in asymmetric unit use command line. Any suggestions are welcome.Thank you in advance. carl soja

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Re: [phenixbb] autobuild failed
by Thomas C. Terwilliger 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

Dear Kaituo, I'm sorry for the problem! I'm not certain what went wrong in this case. It could be that the size of the structure is too big, or it could be a problem with autobuild, or it could be a problem with slow read/write to your file system. The error message "Unable to read ok_file...trying bigger version" will occur if resolve does not finish writing out the file "resolve.ok" immediately after finishing. If you are running on a system that is NFS-mounted, you might try instead running on the local disk. This might fix it. Otherwise, can you help me figure this out by eliminating other possibilities: 1. Can you tell me the version of phenix you are using and what machine this is on: echo $PHENIX_VERSION uname -a 2. Can you send me the entire log file AutoBuild_run_1_1.log 3. Can you send me the file AutoBuild_run_1_/TEMP0/temporary.com 4. If you are willing to send your data, that would be helpful: just tar up your data files and command file and then attach it to an email (but rename the file ".txt" so that it will get sent properly through my email system). Then I can try to reproduce the problem here. All the best, Tom T > My autobuild failed and the log file said: > Columns used: labin FP=F SIGFP=SIGF FreeR_flag=FreeR_flag > Unable to read ok_file...trying bigger version > Failed to run resolve > ---------------------------------- > TRIED resolve ...but not OK > > ********************************************************************************Failed > to carry out AutoBuild_set_up_build: > failure > > how t solve this? > thanks > > kaituo > > peking University, Beijing > _______________________________________________ > phenixbb mailing list > phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org > http://www.phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb >

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autobuild failed
by wang kaituo 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

My autobuild failed and the log file said: Columns used: labin FP=F SIGFP=SIGF FreeR_flag=FreeR_flag Unable to read ok_file...trying bigger version Failed to run resolve ---------------------------------- TRIED resolve ...but not OK ********************************************************************************Failed to carry out AutoBuild_set_up_build: failure how t solve this? thanks kaituo peking University, Beijing

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Re: [phenixbb] reflection files, anomalous data, and test set
by Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

Hi Mark, > input { > xray_data { > file_name = ../testmtz.mtz > labels = "I(+),SIGI(+),I(-),SIGI(-)" > r_free_flags { > file_name = ../SePeak.hkl > label = TEST > test_flag_value = 1 }} Could you try this instead? xray_data { file_name = SePeak.sca labels = None r_free_flags { file_name = ../SePeak.hkl label = TEST test_flag_value = 1 }} Let me know if this gives the same error as before (could be). Ralf

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Final reminder: 2008 Crystallographic Computing School
by Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

The registration deadline for the 2008 Crystallographic Computing School is in two days: *** July 25 *** The schedule of the program including abstracts from all speakers is available here: http://www.iucr.org/iucr-top/comm/ccom/kyoto2008/program.html This program puts a strong weight on fostering one-on-one interactions. There will be only 16 lectures of 45 minutes each (12 hours total) but more than 20 hours of tutorials and demonstrations. Don't miss this unique opportunity for close interaction with the developer community! On behalf of the organizing committee: A. L. Spek (Utrecht University , Netherlands) R. Grosse-Kunstleve (LBNL, USA) M. Yao (Hokkaido University, Japan) A. Nakagawa (Osaka Institute of Protein, Japan) H. Powell (MRC, UK) L. Cranswick (NRC , Canada)

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Creating files with positive and negative map peaks
by Jennifer Ekstrom 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

I would like to obtain a file with a listing of positive and negative difference map peaks, similar in formatting and content to the files that would come out of cns: positive peaks in: <output_root>_positive.peaks negative peaks in: <output_root>_negative.peaks We need this for use in DDQ at the jcsg validation server (http://www.jcsg.org/prod/scripts/validation/sv2.cgi). Is there an easy way to create these peak files in phenix.refine? We'd prefer to not re-refine in CNS as we have *many* alternate conformations... Thanks, Jennifer

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NCS constraints in phenix.
by colletier 19 Jul '08

19 Jul '08

Dear All Does a beta version of phenix.refine that would allow the use of NCS constraints exists somewhere ? Best Jacques Ph Colletier

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SIR with sites from SAD?
by Francis E Reyes 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

I have a SAD dataset where autosol was able to find sites, but the resulting density modified map was uninterpretable. The unit cell for this SAD set was Unit cell: (53.2373, 53.2373, 186.446, 90, 90, 90) . I now have a heavy atom derivative. What's the format of autosol.inp (to be passed to phenix.runWizard AutoSol) that allows me to use the heavy atom sites from the SAD set as a basis for helping find heavy atom sites in the heavy atom derivative? Is it the same as SIR, except use ha_sites_file for the SAD solution? Native unit cell: [53.155600000000007, 53.1556000 00000007, 187.37970000000001, 90.0, 90.0, 90.0 Derivative unit cell: [53.1 82299999999998, 53.182299999999998, 187.59569999999999, 90.0, 90.0, 90.0]. Thanks FR --------------------------------------------- Francis Reyes M.Sc. 215 UCB University of Colorado at Boulder gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 67BA8D5D 8AE2 F2F4 90F7 9640 28BC 686F 78FD 6669 67BA 8D5D

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Deborah Palestrant is out of the office.
by deborah.palestrant＠novartis.com 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

I will be out of the office starting 07/16/2008 and will not return until 07/21/2008.

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Anomalous difference map calcluation
by Jendrek 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

Dear All, I'm looking at my anomalous difference map from phenix.refine and it seems more or less random distributions of electron density peaks. I know that the signal is there since I solved it with SAD. I'm using I(+/-) for refinement and everything seems to work fine except the map generation. The only thing that worries me is that during the creation of _data file for refinement DANO column was not preserved. Is it necessary for phenix.refine in order to generate the anomalous difference map? How can I make sure that the DANO column is preserved (if necessary)? And by the way why is anomalous map file not generated just coefficients in the mtz? Regards, Andrzej -- Andrzej LYSKOWSKI, Ph.D. (andrzej[.]lyskowski[(a)]helsinki[.]fi) Institute of Biotechnology - Structural Biology & Biophysics P. O. Box 65, Viikinkaari 1 FIN-00014 University of HELSINKI, FINLAND TEL.: 358 9 191 58955 FAX : 358 9 191 59940

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Postodoctoral Position - Berkeley California
by Paul Adams 14 Jul '08

14 Jul '08

The Berkeley Center for Structural Biology (BCSB) has an opportunity for a Postdoc to develop hardware and software for the automated control of data collection instrumentation and methods for automated data collection and analysis. You will also provide technical and scientific help to users at the BCSB beamlines (http://bcsb.lbl.gov) at the Advanced Light Source in Berkeley California and participate on projects involving the structure determination of biological molecules and biomolecular complexes as required by users and other BCSB staff members. Responsibilities Under the direction of the Principal Investigator, you will: - Assist in the development of hardware and software for the automated control of data collection instrumentation and methods for automated data collection and analysis. - Participate in engineering projects to advance the capabilities of the beamlines, including robotics systems for sample handling. - Assist in the development of instrumentation and methodology for biological crystallography. - Participate in the design, implementation, and evaluation of collaborative experiments involving biological crystallography. - Participate in helping users regarding data collection, processing, archiving, and analysis. - Collaborate with colleagues both internal and external to the Berkeley Lab. Prepare documentation for beamline staff and users. - Prepare scientific data for publication in refereed journals and present findings at seminars and conferences. - Provide work oversight and direction to technical staff as needed (which will require occasional work off-hours and weekends). - Assist with developing research proposals that lead to continued funding in the area of biological crystallography for the BCSB/ALS. Key Qualifications - A recent Ph.D. in physics, biology, bioengineering, biophysics, or related field. - Experience working in the area of synchrotron science using complex instrumentation and computer controls. - Experience with robotics hardware and control systems. - Experience with the collection of experimental data for biological crystallography. - Demonstrated ability to conduct independent research and organize results for publication and presentation documented by publication record in either: physics, biology, bioengineering, biophysics, biochemistry or instrumentation fields. - Excellent written communication skills along with strong organizational, analytical, and interpersonal skills. - Experience in the use of computer programs required for biological crystallography. - The ability to work in a team environment and effectively interact with a broad range of colleagues. - Experience in UNIX computing is highly preferred. This is a one year Term appointment with the possibility of renewal under the same terms and conditions, contingent upon continued funding and availability of work. How To Apply To apply please visit: http://jobs.lbl.gov/LBNLCareers/details.asp?jid=21987&p=1 Berkeley Lab is an affirmative action/equal opportunity employer committed to the development of a diverse workforce. -- Paul Adams Deputy Division Director, Physical Biosciences Division, Lawrence Berkeley Lab Adjunct Professor, Department of Bioengineering, U.C. Berkeley Vice President for Technology, the Joint BioEnergy Institute Head, Berkeley Center for Structural Biology Building 64, Room 248 Tel: 1-510-486-4225, Fax: 1-510-486-5909 http://cci.lbl.gov/paul Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory 1 Cyclotron Road BLDG 64R0121 Berkeley, CA 94720, USA. Administrator: Delia Clark [ DNClark(a)lbl.gov ][ 1-510-486-6331 ] --

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broken bonds in the substrate
by houjin zhang 12 Jul '08

12 Jul '08

Hi: I am trying to use phenix.elbow to generate restrains for a substrate. I notice that the PDB file produced by elbow contains some broken bonds. So I ran the elbow with the internal strings ATP. The output PDB file also harbors broken bonds. The --opt did help a little. But some bonds still look weird. I am wondering if this a bug or I just didn't install phenix right. I use the latest version of phenix and default setting. Thank you very much!! Houjin

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Reminder: Crystallographic Computing School registration deadline approaching
by Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve 11 Jul '08

11 Jul '08

The registration deadline for the 2008 Crystallographic Computing School is in two weeks: *** July 25 *** The schedule of the program including abstracts from all speakers is available here: http://www.iucr.org/iucr-top/comm/ccom/kyoto2008/program.html This program puts a strong weight on fostering one-on-one interactions. There will be only 16 lectures of 45 minutes each (12 hours total) but more than 20 hours of tutorials and demonstrations. Don't miss this unique opportunity for close interaction with the developer community! On behalf of the organizing committee: A. L. Spek (Utrecht University , Netherlands) R. Grosse-Kunstleve (LBNL, USA) M. Yao (Hokkaido University, Japan) A. Nakagawa (Osaka Institute of Protein, Japan) H. Powell (MRC, UK) L. Cranswick (NRC , Canada)

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PHENIX on OS X Intel 10.5 "need access to screen" error
by Ben Eisenbraun 10 Jul '08

10 Jul '08

Howdy, I have PHENIX 1.3-rc2 built on an OS X Intel 10.4 machine. It runs fine there, but using the same installation mounted via NFS, I get this error: This program needs access to the screen. Please run with 'pythonw', not 'python', and only when you are logged in on the main display of your Mac. I dug around in the program a bit to see if there was a script testing for the DISPLAY setting, but this seems to be generated in the wx-python bits: build/mac-intel-osx/base/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/wx-2.8-mac-ansi/wx/_core.py contains the error message, as do a couple of other files in the /wx/ hierarchy. The PHENIX 1.3-rc2 I built on OS X 10.4 PPC works fine on the 10.5 PPC machines, so I'm a bit surprised it's failing on the Intel side. Does anyone know if a PHENIX built on 10.5 will work on a 10.4 machine? If it was really necessary, I could install versions built on both 10.4 and 10.5, but I'd prefer to avoid it if possible. Any insight on fixing this would be much appreciated. Thanks. -ben -- Ben Eisenbraun Structural Biology Grid Harvard Medical School http://sbgrid.org http://hms.harvard.edu

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