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Need help in refining my twinned P6322(apparent) dataset
by John Pak 15 Mar '11

15 Mar '11

Hey Phenix community, Here are the details of my current situation - any assistance in the matter would be greatly appreciated as I've been struggling mightily for the past month trying to get this structure refined (to no avail). Details: -3.0 angstrom dataset from a membrane protein crystal -reduced in a P3 Bravis lattice using HKL2000 -Pointless and Xtriage suggest P622 symmetry -Solved structure via MR - ran Phaser in all P622 based space groups, found 1 convincing solution in P6322 (LLG ~110) which makes biological sense (1 monomer in ASU that lies on the screw axis to recapitulate the biological trimer) -31% sequence identical search molecule -no pseudotranslation (via Xtriage) Xtriage suggests that the P6322 dataset is nearly perfectly twinned (twin fraction = 0.49). Mindful of the fact that there are no twin operators for P6322, I'm thinking that the true space group is P321, P312 or P63 and I've tried a number of things listed below: 1. Refined in P6322 (simulated annealing+individual B). Missing side chains and incorrectly modelled loops apparent in maps. Start R=0.49, Rfree=0.5. Refinement stalls at R=0.41, Rfree=0.45 after building. 2. Ran Phaser in P312 (using unrefined model) - no solution. 3. Ran Phaser in P321 (using unrefined model). One nice solution (LLG ~220) - lattice looks very similar to P6322 crystal packing. Twin refinement in phenix using operator suggested by Xtriage (simulated annealing + individual B) results in R=0.38, Rfree=0.41 (no rebuilding performed). 4. Ran Phaser in P63 (using unrefined model). Three solutions (LLGs all ~210) - solution #3 looks very similar to P6322 crystal packing. Twin refinement in phenix using operator suggested by Xtriage of solution #3 gives R=0.37, Rfree=0.40 (no rebuilding performed). Solutions #1 and #2 do not give packing arrangements that look like the P6322 solution. Twin refinement of Sol 1 and 2 give higher R factors. So I'm at a loss as to which space group my crystal truly belongs to, and where I should be focusing my refinement. The maps all look similar before and after DM. Thanks for any assistance or recommendations that you might have! -- John E. Pak, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Associate, Stroud Lab Department of Biochemistry& Biophysics UCSF MC2240 Genentech Hall Room S414 600-16th St. San Francisco, CA 94158-2517 Lab #: 415-476-3937 Fax #: 415-476-1902 Cell #: 415-215-0048

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fwd: Re: Need help in refining my twinned P6322(apparent) dataset
by Nathaniel Echols 15 Mar '11

15 Mar '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Van Den Berg, Bert" <Lambertus.VandenBerg(a)umassmed.edu> To: "PHENIX user mailing list" <phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:01:42 -0400 Subject: Hi John, How do the maps look for cases 3 and 4? Are they great or are there obvious things to correct? Does your model have the correct sequence or is it that of the search model? I’m asking because your R’s seem reasonable to me after a first round of refinement and using a 30% identical search model for MR. So maybe there is no problem? Bert On 3/15/11 2:55 AM, "John Pak" <john.pak(a)msg.ucsf.edu> wrote: Hey Phenix community, Here are the details of my current situation - any assistance in the matter would be greatly appreciated as I've been struggling mightily for the past month trying to get this structure refined (to no avail). Details: -3.0 angstrom dataset from a membrane protein crystal -reduced in a P3 Bravis lattice using HKL2000 -Pointless and Xtriage suggest P622 symmetry -Solved structure via MR - ran Phaser in all P622 based space groups, found 1 convincing solution in P6322 (LLG ~110) which makes biological sense (1 monomer in ASU that lies on the screw axis to recapitulate the biological trimer) -31% sequence identical search molecule -no pseudotranslation (via Xtriage) Xtriage suggests that the P6322 dataset is nearly perfectly twinned (twin fraction = 0.49). Mindful of the fact that there are no twin operators for P6322, I'm thinking that the true space group is P321, P312 or P63 and I've tried a number of things listed below: 1. Refined in P6322 (simulated annealing+individual B). Missing side chains and incorrectly modelled loops apparent in maps. Start R=0.49, Rfree=0.5. Refinement stalls at R=0.41, Rfree=0.45 after building. 2. Ran Phaser in P312 (using unrefined model) - no solution. 3. Ran Phaser in P321 (using unrefined model). One nice solution (LLG ~220) - lattice looks very similar to P6322 crystal packing. Twin refinement in phenix using operator suggested by Xtriage (simulated annealing + individual B) results in R=0.38, Rfree=0.41 (no rebuilding performed). 4. Ran Phaser in P63 (using unrefined model). Three solutions (LLGs all ~210) - solution #3 looks very similar to P6322 crystal packing. Twin refinement in phenix using operator suggested by Xtriage of solution #3 gives R=0.37, Rfree=0.40 (no rebuilding performed). Solutions #1 and #2 do not give packing arrangements that look like the P6322 solution. Twin refinement of Sol 1 and 2 give higher R factors. So I'm at a loss as to which space group my crystal truly belongs to, and where I should be focusing my refinement. The maps all look similar before and after DM. Thanks for any assistance or recommendations that you might have! -- John E. Pak, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Associate, Stroud Lab Department of Biochemistry& Biophysics UCSF MC2240 Genentech Hall Room S414 600-16th St. San Francisco, CA 94158-2517 Lab #: 415-476-3937 Fax #: 415-476-1902 Cell #: 415-215-0048

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Mar 15, 2011 deadline- User proposal submission for Collaborative Crystallography at BCSB
by Banumathi Sankaran 14 Mar '11

14 Mar '11

Dear Users, The deadline for May/June 2011 Collaborative Crystallography proposals will be *Mar 15, 2011.* ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Through the Collaborative Crystallography Program (CC) at the Advanced Light Source (ALS), scientists can send protein crystals to Berkeley Center for Structural Biology (BCSB) staff researchers for data collection and analysis. The CC Program can provide a number of benefits to researchers: * Obtain high quality data and analysis through collaborating with expert beamline researchers; * Rapid turn around on projects; and * Reduced travel costs. To apply, please submit a proposal through the ALS General User proposal review process for beamtime allocation. Proposals are reviewed and ranked by the Proposal Study Panel, and beamtime is allocated accordingly. BCSB staff schedule the CC projects on Beamlines 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 to fit into the available resources. Only non-proprietary projects will be accepted. As a condition of participation, BCSB staff researchers who participate in data collection and/or analysis must be appropriately acknowledged - typically being included as authors on publications and in PDB depositions. Please consult the website for additional information at: http://bcsb.als.lbl.gov/wiki/index.php/Collaborative_Crystallography ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How To Apply: To learn more, go to: http://www.als.lbl.gov/als/quickguide/becomealsuser.html To submit a proposal, go to: http://alsusweb.lbl.gov/. Scroll down to "*Structural Biology beamlines (includes protein SAXS)*" and click on "New Proposal." Enter your proposal information, with attention to the following details: * For question 3/First choice, select "5.0.1 (Monochromatic);" for question 3/Second choice, select "5.0.2 (MAD)." * Check box (yes) in response to question (7) "Do you want collaborative crystallography (beamline 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 only) * In question 4, please describe a specific research project with a clear end point. In order to request CC time for May/June 2011 allocation period, proposals must be submitted by *Mar 15, 2011.* The deadline for CC proposals for the time period July/Aug 2011 will be May 15, 2011. Regards, Banumathi Sankaran

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Jan 15, 2011 deadline- User proposal submission for Collaborative Crystallography at BCSB
by Banumathi Sankaran 14 Mar '11

14 Mar '11

Dear Users, The deadline for March/April 2011 Collaborative Crystallography proposals will be *Jan 15, 2011.* ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Through the Collaborative Crystallography Program (CC) at the Advanced Light Source (ALS), scientists can send protein crystals to Berkeley Center for Structural Biology (BCSB) staff researchers for data collection and analysis. The CC Program can provide a number of benefits to researchers: * Obtain high quality data and analysis through collaborating with expert beamline researchers; * Rapid turn around on projects; and * Reduced travel costs. To apply, please submit a proposal through the ALS General User proposal review process for beamtime allocation. Proposals are reviewed and ranked by the Proposal Study Panel, and beamtime is allocated accordingly. BCSB staff schedule the CC projects on Beamlines 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 to fit into the available resources. Only non-proprietary projects will be accepted. As a condition of participation, BCSB staff researchers who participate in data collection and/or analysis must be appropriately acknowledged - typically being included as authors on publications and in PDB depositions. Please consult the website for additional information at: http://bcsb.als.lbl.gov/wiki/index.php/Collaborative_Crystallography ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How To Apply: To learn more, go to: http://www.als.lbl.gov/als/quickguide/becomealsuser.html To submit a proposal, go to: http://alsusweb.lbl.gov/. Scroll down to "*Structural Biology beamlines (includes protein SAXS)*" and click on "New Proposal." Enter your proposal information, with attention to the following details: * For question 3/First choice, select "5.0.1 (Monochromatic);" for question 3/Second choice, select "5.0.2 (MAD)." * Check box (yes) in response to question (7) "Do you want collaborative crystallography (beamline 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 only) * In question 4, please describe a specific research project with a clear end point. In order to request CC time for March/April 2011 allocation period, proposals must be submitted by *Jan 15, 2011.* The deadline for CC proposals for the time period May/June 2011 will be March 15, 2011. Regards, Banumathi Sankaran

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B-factor discrepancy
by Yuri 14 Mar '11

14 Mar '11

I am refining a single-mutant structure at 2.1 A. The native was solved years ago by heavy atom phasing. The reported average B-factors for alpha carbons especially of the original structure were significantly lower than the ones I am seeing. around 15 vs. around 25. Has anyone any idea if this is perfectly fine and its simply something intrinsic to my crystals? Also at this resolution, should I try to refine any residues at all anisotropically? Thanks for the guidance

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XYZ refinement vs individual sites refinement
by Yuri 13 Mar '11

13 Mar '11

I am new to phenix and I am trying to probe two residues that are putative H-bond partners, after refinement they seem to be put in orientations that would make it impossible for them to be interacting with a ligand. My SA composite omit map may suggest that one of the Asn could be in a different position. My question: If I manually change its conformation is it wise to keep its position fixed during refinement to see what the new maps would look like? If so where would I do that under the real space or individual sites tab on GUI phenix? I am not sure what these 2 tasks accomplish exactly. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks Yuri Pompeu

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Fwd: XYZ refinement vs individual sites refinement
by Yuri 13 Mar '11

13 Mar '11

Thats better! thank you

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most appropriate map for ligand fitting/interaction with FMN
by Yuri 13 Mar '11

13 Mar '11

I am refinig a structure at 2.1 A. I have 2 questions: a) Is the best way to identify a ligand refining the protein and water molecules and at the end looking at the 2mfo-dfc and mfo-dfc maps? Or looking at a SA composit omit map? b) In almost every map i look at during refinement I see density that smears/joins my ligand (cyclopentenone type molecule) and flavin's isoalloxazine ring. Has anyone ever seen that? they seem to be 3.1 A apart? Thanks -- Yuri Pompeu

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Elbow problem
by Jerome Nwachukwu 11 Mar '11

11 Mar '11

Hi all: For some reason, phenix.elbow converts a specific double-bond (C=C) in my ligand to a single bond (C-C) and therefore generates a wrong .cif file. Is there away to avoid or correct this problem? Thank you, -Jerome Jerome C. Nwachukwu, PhD Kendall Nettles' Lab Dept. of Cancer Biology The Scripps Research Institute-Florida 130 Scripps Way, 2C1 Jupiter, FL 33458

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Binary Installation failure on Ubuntu
by Katherine Sippel 11 Mar '11

11 Mar '11

Hi all, I am trying to install the latest nightly build (dev-694) using the Kernel 2.6 (64-bit; Fedora Core 3) binary. The OS is Ubuntu 10.10 installed as a dual boot through Wubi. I get as far as configuring PHENIX components at which point it heaves out a binary.log file. I can send the whole file to anyone whose interested but it's a bit too large for the bb. The juicy bit is as follows... Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix> Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix>] ImportError: No module named site How can I determine which libraries are missing? Thanks for any help you can provide, Katherine

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