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Re: [phenixbb] question on bad geometry
by Thomas C. Terwilliger 01 Sep '10

01 Sep '10

Hi Fengyun, Just to emphasize what Ed points out here, an essential step in completing a structure is to compare it, one residue, solvent molecule, or ligand at a time, with your electron density map, fixing any inconsistencies between the model and the map. There are many wonderful tools in all the crystallographic graphics programs to help you do this. All the best, Tom T >> On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 20:37 -0500, fn1(a)rice.edu wrote: >>> Does >>> that mean I need to manually adjust the model? >> >> Autobuilder is a fantastic tool which greatly simplifies the model >> building process, but you always must validate your structure by >> inspecting the electron density. I fully understand that (hopefully) it >> is what you plan to do and this is more of a reaction to the alarming >> number of obvious and easily correctable systematic errors one finds in >> structures deposited in the PDB these days. >> >> Thanks to Pavel for providing an excellent example to illustrate the >> point. One only needs to take a look at the model in context of >> electron density maps to confirm that autobuilder will fix some errors >> but also sometimes introduce some that require manual correction. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ed. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> phenixbb mailing list >> phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org >> http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb >>

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question on bad geometry
by fn1＠rice.edu 01 Sep '10

01 Sep '10

Hi everyone, I have a structure at 2.3 A refined in phenix to R/Rfree=0.23/0.28. However, the geometry is not that good, the followings are the output from phenix.model_vs_data, Stereochemistry statistics (mean, max, count): bonds : 0.0080 0.0547 3244 angles : 1.1669 12.1085 4374 dihedrals : 15.7241 85.6280 1202 chirality : 0.0706 0.2831 536 planarity : 0.0036 0.0246 573 non-bonded (min) : 2.1217 Ramachandran plot, number of: outliers : 17 (4.02 %) allowed : 37 (8.75 %) favored : 369 (87.23 %) Rotamer outliers : 30 (8.62 %) goal: < 1% Cbeta deviations >0.25A : 0 All-atom clashscore : 40.51 (steric overlaps >0.4A per 1000 atoms) I tried to use fix_rotamer=True, but it doesn't help at all. As to the rotamer outliers, the value is far higher than the ideal one. Does that mean I need to manually adjust the model? Or will autobuild help improve the geometry? Thanks! Fengyun

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How to do a phenix.fmodel calculation incorporating the exponential scaling model only?
by zhangh1＠umbc.edu 01 Sep '10

01 Sep '10

Hi, I want to use phenix.fmodel to do a calculation incorporating the exponential scaling model only (Not the flat model). I am not sure whether I just need simply specify: mask { use_asu_masks = False } since the output maps are just identical no matter use_asu_masks = True or False. Should I do something else to enable exponential scaling model only? Thanks! Best Regards, Hailiang

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0.00 Refined Isotropic ADPs
by Joseph Noel 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

Hi All. Me again! LOL I am sure this has come up and related to how the "B-factor" in the refined PDB's ADP column is calculated including the overall anisotropic B-factor, etc but is it unusual to have isotropic ADPs refine to 0.00? I have several nice structures with 0.00 isotropic ADPs. I am not refining TLS or anisotropic ADPs at all. Just the normal course of refinement. These are regions of a high degree of order and the maps are beautiful but just wandering what the 0.00 ultimately means particularly when I eventually submit to the Protein Data Bank. Joe P.S. Nat's tips on COOT and Phenix are working beautifully now! Thanks Nat! ___________________________________________________________ Joseph P. Noel, Ph.D. Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute Professor, The Jack H. Skirball Center for Chemical Biology and Proteomics The Salk Institute for Biological Studies 10010 North Torrey Pines Road La Jolla, CA 92037 USA Phone: (858) 453-4100 extension 1442 Cell: (858) 349-4700 Fax: (858) 597-0855 E-mail: noel(a)salk.edu Web Site (Salk): http://www.salk.edu/faculty/faculty_details.php?id=37 Web Site (HHMI): http://hhmi.org/research/investigators/noel.html ___________________________________________________________

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Re: [phenixbb] Phenix and COOT Together on a Mac (and Probe too?)
by Joseph Noel 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

Nat, One thing that seemed to solve all the problems at once was to completely remove any reference to the COOT path in the Phenix preferences! Is that weird? When I removed it completely only leaving the path to PYMOL then COOT is working just fine in conjunction with Phenix and even the Probe issues have disappeared. Prior to this, I was tried two different paths to COOT. 1. /sw64/bin/coot 2. /Applications/coot.app/Contents/MacOS/coot Neither behaved but if I don't specify anything it works. Joe ___________________________________________________________ Joseph P. Noel, Ph.D. Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute Professor, The Jack H. Skirball Center for Chemical Biology and Proteomics The Salk Institute for Biological Studies 10010 North Torrey Pines Road La Jolla, CA 92037 USA Phone: (858) 453-4100 extension 1442 Cell: (858) 349-4700 Fax: (858) 597-0855 E-mail: noel(a)salk.edu Web Site (Salk): http://www.salk.edu/faculty/faculty_details.php?id=37 Web Site (HHMI): http://hhmi.org/research/investigators/noel.html ___________________________________________________________

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Problem with low figure of merit
by sankaranarayanan srinivasan 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

Hi all, I am new to structure solving. I have a 2.9A dataset for a Seleno crystal of which i am trying to use Autosol to build an initial map. I used the settings for a thorough solution, instead of quick. All the other parameters were set to default settings. The solution that i got from autosol, gave me the following result Solution # 1 BAYES-CC: 23.7 +/- 30.9 Dataset #1 FOM: 0.27 Residues built: 238 Side-chains built: 139 Chains: 15 Overall model-map correlation: 0.65 R/R-free: 0.38/0.42. Score type: SKEW CORR_RMS Raw scores: 0.02 0.77 100x EST OF CC: 16.86 32.11 The density modification map matches, quite well with many of my side chains fitted. My question here is , IS THERE A WAY I CAN IMPROVE THE Figure Of Merit , BY CHANGING ANY PARAMETERS IN PHENIX-AUTOSOL. I HAVE A HIGH SOLVENT CONTENT IN MY CRYSTAL AND I DID NOT INPUT THAT IN MY INITIAL PARAMETERS. DOES PHENIX AUTOSOL CONSIDER SOLVENT FLATTENING FOR SUCH CRYSTALS? I would appreciate someone's help in this regard Thanks Shankar

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Phenix and COOT Together on a Mac (and Probe too?)
by Joseph Noel 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

Hi All, I am having trouble getting COOT to link up with Phenix. I know that Bill Scott's fink version of COOT breaks the link but I have also tried the stand alone latest version for Mac OSX without success. I suspect there may be something additional I need to set up to get the two programs to talk to one and other. I can open COOT with the GUI link in Phenix but that's it. The two do not communicate and the "Phenix button" does not appear. I am running everything on a Mac laptop with an Intel chip and the latest snow leopard operating system. I can also run probe independently in COOT using the script suggestion for the .coot file from the MOLPROBITY web site. However, after several checks of bad contacts the system freezes at the level of XQuartz and I have to kill X-Windows to start over. I don't know if this is in someway linked to the problem getting COOT and Phenix to talk to one and other but I thought I would throw it out there. Finally, if I do run COOT by starting it from the Phenix GUI it also freezes after several rounds of building, etc just like the probes to check for clashes. If anyone has observed this behavior and has some suggestions I would much appreciate it! Its not a big deal as I can run things separately and work from a print out of Molprobity outliers but it would be sure nice to just click and correct. Sorry to keep going but I should say I have Bill Scott's fink'ed version of coot installed in as directed in /sw64 and the stand alone version installed along with CCP4 and Phenix in my Mac's /Applications directory where all my standard Mac apps appear. Thanks! Joe ___________________________________________________________ Joseph P. Noel, Ph.D. Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute Professor, The Jack H. Skirball Center for Chemical Biology and Proteomics The Salk Institute for Biological Studies 10010 North Torrey Pines Road La Jolla, CA 92037 USA Phone: (858) 453-4100 extension 1442 Cell: (858) 349-4700 Fax: (858) 597-0855 E-mail: noel(a)salk.edu Web Site (Salk): http://www.salk.edu/faculty/faculty_details.php?id=37 Web Site (HHMI): http://hhmi.org/research/investigators/noel.html ___________________________________________________________

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Can we untoggle molecular weight mean deviation check on ensembles in autoMR?
by James R. Thompson 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

Can folks untoggle the molecular weight mean deviation check in phenix.autoMR on the ensembles input? I want to use an ensemble of coordinates generated by the Mustangs server from a SSM alignment. Therefore, by design the 10 PDBs input to phenix.autoMR vary greatly in molecular weight from their mean value, but the whole is likely an excellent probe for molecular replacement. However, I am stymied by phenix.autoMR: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FATAL RUNTIME ERROR: Molecular weight of /home/jrt04/Desktop/GB1STAS/MUSTANGServer_10_1.6_0_sculpt-coot-0.pdb (6610.56) deviates more than 20% from the mean (3977.08). This pdb file may contain domains or water not present in the other files. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I understand why this check might be of utility to the unobservant. How can I disable this test? Many thanks, Jim -- James R. Thompson <thompson.james(a)mayo.edu>

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stuck with phenix refine
by intekhab alam 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

Hi I am working with a twinned data set having R32 space group. when i tried to refine with phenix refine using the twin option it got stuck after some time. There is no error message showing up and the refinemnet donot progresses further. I have used the twin law suggested by Xtriage program in Phenix. Kindly help me out. Regards -- INTEKHAB ALAM LABORATORY OF STRUCTURAL BIOINFORMATICS KOREA UNIVERSITY, SEOUL

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Re: [phenixbb] phenix.automr questions
by Kay Diederichs 29 Aug '10

29 Aug '10

Dear Randy, Nat, Tom, thank you for pointing out the existence of phenix.phaser to me, and sketching its usage. I think I'll make my way with that information; nevertheless it would be great if it were officially documented (Google returned nothing to me about phenix.phaser). BTW, I'm trying to put together some orthogonal Phenix documentation at http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Phenix . I take the opportunity to state that although the URL refers to the CCP4 users' wiki, and obviously Phenix is not part of CCP4, the wiki covers a broad range of crystallographic information. Thus, I do think it is appropriate to collect Phenix-related information (from a user perspective) there, and would like to invite everybody to contribute to the Phenix entry (and others!). thanks, Kay

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