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changing TLS groups mid refinement
by Scott Classen 20 May '10

20 May '10

Hello Phenixers, Are there any considerations to changing TLS groups mid refinement? Can I rest assured that after a few rounds of refinement with the new TLS definitions everything will sort itself out or should I do something drastic, like remove all the ANISOU records, reset B factors to some constant value, and start over? Thanks, Scott

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phenix distorts ligand
by Mustafa Koksal 19 May '10

19 May '10

Hi, I have a problem in phenix refinement at 2.25 A resolution, data is 80% complete. I have protein, water, and ions in the .PDB file, and a ligand molecule that is distorted during refinement. I generated the pdb (with H atoms) with ChemDraw3D, edited the atom names etc. I used phenix.elbow to generate the .CIF file. Here is the first problem: Ligand has trans double bonds, which are written out by phenix.elbow as single rotatable bonds although I had correct connect records and H atoms in the .PDB file. I ran phenix.refine, it distorted the ligand, making double bonds not planar and nearly cis. Here is what I have tried: I edited the .CIF file to change these torsion agles to be CONSTANT and 180 or 0 deg. Here is the second problem: phenix.refine still distorted the ligand. Here is what I have tried: I used optimize_wxc/wxu in phenix.refine to optimize the weight, to see if I overweighed the data. Here is the third problem: phenix.refine still distorted the ligand. Is there a way to solve this problem? Is there a way to tighten the constraints for the ligand only? I still do not understand why it even cannot keep the double bonds planar (and trans). I do not want to move back to good old CNS... Thanks to all, Mustafa -- Mustafa Koksal Postdoctoral Fellow University of Pennsylvania Department of Chemistry Roy and Diana Vagelos Laboratories Office: 2090 IAST Office Phone: (215) 898-2227 Mobile Phone: (267) 319-6443 Mail Address: 231 S. 34th St, Philadelphia 19104, USA -- "If you grant me a pen, I shall destroy swords and spears" Mawlana Jalal-ad-Din Rumi --

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geometry_restraints between sym mates?
by Scott Classen 18 May '10

18 May '10

Hi all, Is this possible? # on working model bond { atom_selection_1 = "name SM and chain M and resname SM and resseq 1" atom_selection_2 = "name OE1 and chain A and resname GLU and resseq 313" distance_ideal = 2.5 sigma = 0.2 } # on SYM mol bond { atom_selection_1 = "name SM and chain M and resname SM and resseq 1" atom_selection_2 = "name OE1 and chain A and resname GLU and resseq 285" distance_ideal = 2.5 sigma = 0.2 } I'll find out in a few minutes when I run it through phenix.refine, but I thought to ask anyways. Thanks, Scott

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Looking at omit maps in coot
by xaravich ivan 18 May '10

18 May '10

Hi, Again this is pretty novice and I would apologize in advance. I ran Simulated annealing omit map in PHENIX and it gave me a bunch of files. I started with a partially built model ( I would say most of it was built) and it gave me an edited pdb that I can open in coot but I the composite omit mtz file is not opening in coot. In fact I cannot open any mtz file from the phenix output /OMIT directory and cannot see any map. I am pretty clueless. Thanks, Ivan

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An easier explanation of the regions in omit map
by xaravich ivan 18 May '10

18 May '10

Hi Nat, So I have quite a few regions build by the SA_omit map of phenix. But How do I go about looking at these maps. What am I looking for here. Should I look at the regions where the occupancy was set zero in all these outputs and find if I could build some thing from one of the maps? I guess I am asking, How do I use this information to move forward in refinement? There are 24 regions map and .pdb output in the /OMIT directory. Thanks, Ivan On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Nathaniel Echols <nechols(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:40 PM, xaravich ivan <xaravich.ivan(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Again this is pretty novice and I would apologize in advance. >> I ran Simulated annealing omit map in PHENIX and it gave me a bunch of >> files. I started with a partially built model ( I would say most of it was >> built) and it gave me an edited pdb that I can open in coot but I the >> composite omit mtz file is not opening in coot. In fact I cannot open any >> mtz file from the phenix output /OMIT directory and cannot see any map. >> I am pretty clueless. >> > > Some clarification: > > 1. Which version of Phenix, and which platform? > 2. GUI or command-line? > 3. If you're really making a composite omit map (as opposed to a simple > omit map, e.g. for a ligand), ignore the PDB file output by AutoBuild and > stick to the original. > > One common problem is that on Mac, if you try to open the MTZ file in Coot > (using the "Open MTZ", not auto-open), it will open a window to choose > column labels in the file, but it opens *behind* the main window, which you > need to move to the side temporarily. > > -Nat > > _______________________________________________ > phenixbb mailing list > phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org > http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb > >

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Building DNA
by Rajagopalan, Senapathy 16 May '10

16 May '10

Dear Phenix developers, I am solving a protein-dna complex and Autobuild is able to build both the protein as well as DNA chain (one at a time). However, when I try to do the refinement, I get an error saying "Phenix could not find the geometry restraints in the standard monomer library for one or more residues in the pdb file... DG: 6 copies, DA: 3 copies, DT: 43 copies". It seems like Autobuid uses the nomenclature DA, DC, DG and DT for the DNA bases while Phenix.Refine either doesn't like the nomenclature or the restraint files uses a different one. It still however lets me do the refinement...although I don't know if it just ignores the DNA part. Can someone enlighten me on this. Also, the nomenclature Coot seems to like is Ad, Cd, Gd, Td for the DNA and doesn't like the above phenix style. In order to manipulate in coot, I had to rename all the bases...is it possible to have a format that is compatible both in Phenix and Coot or am I missing something obvious here. Thanks and Have a great weekend! Sena Methodist. Leading Medicine. Recognized by U.S.News & World Report as an "Honor Roll" hospital Named to FORTUNE magazine's "100 Best Companies to Work For" list five years in a row Designated as a Magnet hospital for excellence in nursing Visit us at methodisthealth.com Follow us at twitter.com/MethodistHosp and www.facebook.com/methodisthospital ***CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE*** This e-mail is the property of The Methodist Hospital and/or its relevant affiliates and may contain restricted and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender and delete all copies of the message. Thank you.

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Improved refinement method for low resolution data
by Florian Nachon 15 May '10

15 May '10

Hi all, Axel Brunger just published a paper in Nature (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v464/n7292/abs/nature08892.html) about a new method to improve models despite low-resolution data. It is implemented in CNS 1.3. It might be a bit early, but is there any plan to implement that method in phenix? Florian.

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where do phenix.metal_coordination ideal bond lengths come from?
by Scott Classen 14 May '10

14 May '10

Hello, I have a structure with several water/carboxylate-coordinated metal ions and I am using phenix.metal_coordination to generate the restraints parameter file for phenix.refine. Can someone please tell me where phenix.metal_coordination is getting the ideal bond length/angle values from. Thanks, Scott Classen

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Gordon Conference on Diffraction Methods
by A Leslie 14 May '10

14 May '10

Just a reminder that there is still time to register for the Gordon Conference on Diffraction Methods in Structural Biology, that will be held at Bates College in Lewiston, Maine from 18-23rd July. The program (see below) covers all aspects of macromolecular crystallography, from crystallization to structure solution and refinement, and includes sessions on complementary techniques and the potential of free electron lasers. Many of the leading methods developers will be present and the format of the meeting, with free afternoons, provides ample opportunities for informal discussions. Further details, including a full program and details on the application procedure can be obtained from: http://www.grc.org/programs.aspx?year=2010&program=diffrac We hope to see you there ! Andrew Leslie (Chair) & Ana Gonzalez (Vice Chair) Outline Program: Sunday pm: Macromolecular Structures, Pushing the boundaries Discussion leader: Michael Rossmann 1. ABC Transporters: Doug Rees 2. The Spliceosome : Kyoshi Nagai Monday am: Crystallisation and the diffraction experiment Discussion leader: Zbyszek Dauter 1. Nanolitre crystallisation: Seth Harris 2. Twinning and disorder: Todd Yeates 3. Simulating the diffraction experiment: James Holton 4. Microcrystallography: Gwyndaf Evans Monday pm: Radiation damage and data collection strategies Discussion leader: Vivian Stojanoff 1. Radiation damage, experimental: Elspeth Garman 2. Microbeams: Yanhui Zou 3. Testing data collection strategies with the Pilatus: Marcus Mueller Tues am: Synchrotron developments and automated data processing Discussion leader: Thomas Schneider 1. Synchrotrons, latest developments: Sean Mc Sweeney 2. Synchrotrons, latest developments: Janet Smith 3. Data processing with Xia2/CHEF: Graeme Winter 4. Data processing with AUTOPROC: Clemens Vonrhein Tues pm: Complementary techniques Discussion leader: Ana Gonzales 1. Electron tomography: Sriram Subramaniam 2. SAXS: Hiro Tsuruta 3. Spectroscopy: Carrie Wilmot Weds am: Structure solution and refinement Discussion leader: Paul Adams 1. SAD Phasing: Randy Read 2. Molecular replacement with BALBES: Garib Murshudov 3. PHENIX: Tom Terwilliger 4. TLS: Ethan Merritt Weds pm: Challenging problems/Membrane Proteins Discussion leader: TBC 1. Using cubic lipidic phase: Martin Caffrey 2. Membrane Proteins: Stephen White 3. The Bacterial Ribosome: Venki Ramakrishnan Thurs am: Selected Posters and Map improvement and Model building Discussion leader: Tassos Perrakis 1. COOT: Paul Emsley 2. Modelling nucleic acids: Johan Hattne Thursday pm: Future Methods, FELs, Diffraction imaging Discussion leader: Ed Lattman 1. Anton Barty 2. Serial Crystallography: John Spence and Petra Fromme

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question about free energy calculation in protein complex
by crystallogrphy 14 May '10

14 May '10

Hi, I am trying to calculate the free energy of association for structure of a protein complexes based on the salt bridges, H-bonds and van der waals interaction? Does any one know how to do it? Thanks!

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