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use of wavelength_list=
by Bryan W. Lepore 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

does phenix use the 'wavelength_list=' command line flag in calculations? or is it used for no more than data set labeling e.g. derivatives, as solve works? -bryan

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Collaborative Crystallography Program - Advanced Light Source
by Paul Adams 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

The Berkeley Center for Structural Biology (BCSB) is pleased to announce the launch of a Collaborative Crystallography Pilot Program (CC) at the Advanced Light Source in Berkeley. Through this program, scientists will be able to send protein crystals to BCSB staff researchers for data collection and analysis. The CC Pilot Program can provide an number of benefits to researchers: * Obtain high quality data and analysis through collaborating with expert beamline researchers; * Rapid turn around on projects; * Reduced travel costs. Thumbnail Description: ====================== The Collaborative Crystallography program will be piloted on beamlines 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 for one year; if successful it will be implemented on a permanent basis. CC proposals will go through the regular ALS General User proposal review process for beamtime allocation. Proposals will be reviewed and ranked by the Proposal Study Panel, and beamtime will be allocated accordingly. BCSB staff will schedule the projects to fit into the available resources. Only non-proprietary projects will be accepted. As a condition of participation, BCSB staff researchers who participate in data collection and/or analysis must be appropriately acknowledged - typically being included as authors on publications and in PDB depositions. Please consult the website for additional information at: http://bcsb.als.lbl.gov/wiki/index.php/Collaborative_Crystallography. How To Apply: ============= To submit a proposal, go to: http://alsusweb.lbl.gov/4DCGI/WEB_GetForm/PXProposalEntry.shtml/ Initialize. For question 3 select "Collaborative PX 501/502." For question 9, please describe a specific research project with a clear end point. In order to request CC time for January/February, 2008, proposals must be submitted by November 15, 2007. -- Paul Adams Deputy Division Director, Physical Biosciences Division, Lawrence Berkeley Lab Adjunct Professor, Department of Bioengineering, U.C. Berkeley Vice President for Technology, the Joint BioEnergy Institute Head, Berkeley Center for Structural Biology Building 64, Room 248 Tel: 510-486-4225, Fax: 510-486-5909 http://cci.lbl.gov/paul Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory 1 Cyclotron Road BLDG 64R0121 Berkeley, CA 94720, USA. --

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Re: [phenixbb] phenix.autobuild opinion on sequence file
by Tom Terwilliger 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hi Bryan, I haven't tried your approach, but my guess would be that the correct sequence file will be the better way to go... The side chains are fitted after building main-chain so the sequence is not going to affect the main-chain build in any direct way (though the sequence will help the wizard in identifying and correcting places where loops are built with the wrong number of residues). -Tom T At 01:32 PM 11/8/2007, you wrote: >i was thinking about giving phenix.autobuild a poly-Ser/Gly,Ala-intact (or >other incomplete variant) _sequence_file_, so it doesn't inter alia put >arginine into strands... though the solvent content will be imprecise.. > >has anyone noticed if such a trick was more/less favorable to the (proper) >complete sequence approach? any pertinent detail or criticisms >appreciated. > >-bryan >_______________________________________________ >phenixbb mailing list >phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org >http://www.phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb Thomas C. Terwilliger Mail Stop M888 Los Alamos National Laboratory Los Alamos, NM 87545 Tel: 505-667-0072 email: terwilliger(a)LANL.gov Fax: 505-665-3024 SOLVE web site: http://solve.lanl.gov PHENIX web site: http:www.phenix-online.org ISFI Integrated Center for Structure and Function Innovation web site: http://techcenter.mbi.ucla.edu TB Structural Genomics Consortium web site: http://www.doe-mbi.ucla.edu/TB

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phenix.autobuild opinion on sequence file
by Bryan W. Lepore 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

i was thinking about giving phenix.autobuild a poly-Ser/Gly,Ala-intact (or other incomplete variant) _sequence_file_, so it doesn't inter alia put arginine into strands... though the solvent content will be imprecise.. has anyone noticed if such a trick was more/less favorable to the (proper) complete sequence approach? any pertinent detail or criticisms appreciated. -bryan

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problem finding large no of sites in high symmetry
by Banumathi Sankaran 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hi, I am working with a data set collected in P23 space group. I am expecting 23 Se sites. Hyss gives me warning:run time error for finding large no of site. I did not interupt the run. I waited for 1hr and still it could not find sites. Shelx gave me out of 100 solutions only one had good CC and found 15 sites. IS there a way that this problem can be solved in hyss ? Thanks Banu

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Re: [phenixbb] Advice about phasing procedure and phase extension in AutoSol-AutoBuild
by Tom Terwilliger 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hi Carsten, >1. can I input known HA-positions into the AutoSol wizard to help >Hyss find other positions? Does Hyss actually eliminate bogus sites? >Solve seems to refine bogus sites to occupancies ~0.1-0.5 but with a >B-factor of one, but does not toss them. How does Hyss handle this situation? As far as I know, you cannot seed hyss with sites. If you have SAD data, try the autosol wizard which uses Phaser. Phaser has a good LLG map algorithm for finding addtional sites. >2. What is the best way to handle phase extension in the Wizards, >how would one go about this? I would like to fine-tune the >resolution steps myself as not to jump to far out to higher resolution. The wizards use the defaults for phase extension in resolve. If you want to fine-tune the resolution steps you can say, resolve_command_list=" 's_step 0.05 ' " Note the 2 sets of quotation marks.... This will use steps of 0.05 A for phase extension (type phenix.autobuild --help resolve_command_list for documentation of this command) >3. What quality indicators should I look at? A couple of FOMs in the >resolve runs were in the region of 0.7, but the maps were not >interpretable and resolve failed to build anything. Anything else I >should look at? Best is the R-factor at the end of density modification. If it's around 0.30 you are doing well. 0.4 is bad, 0.25 is great. All the best, Tom T Thomas C. Terwilliger Mail Stop M888 Los Alamos National Laboratory Los Alamos, NM 87545 Tel: 505-667-0072 email: terwilliger(a)LANL.gov Fax: 505-665-3024 SOLVE web site: http://solve.lanl.gov PHENIX web site: http:www.phenix-online.org ISFI Integrated Center for Structure and Function Innovation web site: http://techcenter.mbi.ucla.edu TB Structural Genomics Consortium web site: http://www.doe-mbi.ucla.edu/TB

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Advice about phasing procedure and phase extension in AutoSol-AutoBuild
by Schubert, Carsten [PRDUS] 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hi, I am trying to bootstrap my way into a couple of weak derivatives using a combination of Solve and the AutoSol and AutoBuild wizards. I have probably one or two fairly weak diffracting derivatives (~3A) with low FOMs (~0.3) from Solve, the native extend to ~2.A. I have a couple of questions about how to best proceed with the phasing procedure using either the wizards or a Solve/Resolve combination. 1. can I input known HA-positions into the AutoSol wizard to help Hyss find other positions? Does Hyss actually eliminate bogus sites? Solve seems to refine bogus sites to occupancies ~0.1-0.5 but with a B-factor of one, but does not toss them. How does Hyss handle this situation? 2. What is the best way to handle phase extension in the Wizards, how would one go about this? I would like to fine-tune the resolution steps myself as not to jump to far out to higher resolution. 3. What quality indicators should I look at? A couple of FOMs in the resolve runs were in the region of 0.7, but the maps were not interpretable and resolve failed to build anything. Anything else I should look at? Thanks Carsten

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Re: [phenixbb] autobuild 'hires_file'->now FreeR flags, merging, ...
by Tom Terwilliger 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Hi Bryan, >On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Thomas C. Terwilliger wrote: > > The problem is in that version of phenix. I'm sorry about that! Can you > >that solved it, thanks. Oh good. > >> [1 A] in phenix.autobuild, e.g. a SAD dataset, does the flag > >> 'hires_file=w1.sca' (help says "Merge in hires data"), mean that phases > >> will be extended to a high resolution limit as found in w1.sca? (vide > >> infra) > > > > Yes, that is correct. > >ok, then i have to ask - is phenix merging each reflection? i.e, i >wouldn't want to do this w/ a derivative and hi-res native, right? Yes, it is merging in each reflection, if I understand the question. Yes, you might do it with phases from a native+derivative and a hi-res native. (We're only talking about doing this in autobuild, after you have "experimental" phases from something.) -Tom T Thomas C. Terwilliger Mail Stop M888 Los Alamos National Laboratory Los Alamos, NM 87545 Tel: 505-667-0072 email: terwilliger(a)LANL.gov Fax: 505-665-3024 SOLVE web site: http://solve.lanl.gov PHENIX web site: http:www.phenix-online.org ISFI Integrated Center for Structure and Function Innovation web site: http://techcenter.mbi.ucla.edu TB Structural Genomics Consortium web site: http://www.doe-mbi.ucla.edu/TB

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error message running example
by Kairies, Norman 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Hi - I tried to run the example: phenix.run_example gene-5-mad However, it stopped, with following error messages: Done with gene-5-mad ...Your results are in the directory: gene-5-mad/AutoSol_run_1_ Missing the summary file: gene-5-mad/AutoSol_run_1_/ Something did not work properly...not all output files produced and the LAST.LOG reports: ************************************************************************ *** 6769 SOLVE STATUS 07-nov-07 12:47:15 6770 6771 DATASET TITLE: SOLVE 07-Nov-07 STATUS 6772 STATUS: UNABLE TO FIND UNIQUE NAME FOR SCRATCH 6773 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- 6774 Sorry -- ERROR ENDING. SEE the end of your log file or output STATUS 6775 and solve.log 6776 for more information STATUS Any idea what is going wrong? (phenix version 1.3 beta rc4, 64bit computer, 2 dual core proc.) Many thanks, Norman

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autobuild 'hires_file'
by Bryan W. Lepore 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

i have phenix 2007_08_18_1856, (and i think latest cci apps). i have a jumble of questions, i'll try step by step: [1 A] in phenix.autobuild, e.g. a SAD dataset, does the flag 'hires_file=w1.sca' (help says "Merge in hires data"), mean that phases will be extended to a high resolution limit as found in w1.sca? (vide infra) [1 B] can the labels be the same as the 'other' data (the documentation suggests this)? i have tried a few things like : phenix.autobuild data=resolve.mtz hires_file=high_resolution.mtz input_hires_labels='FPnat SIGFPnat' seq_file=seq.txt ... and i see Cell: [99.810997009277344, 99.810997009277344, 140.37300109863281, 90.0, 90.0, 90.0] New resolution: 2.20520367253 High-res file input labels: ['FPnat', 'SIGFPnat'] ... which is good, but the job promptly fails with this cryptic (to me) error message: ************************************************************ Failed to carry out AutoBuild_datafile_info_inputs: 'all_input_hires_labels' ************************************************************ ... (google:all_input_hires_labels and looking through docs quick didn't find it) -bryan

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