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Refining the structure of Ribosome and the system crash
by Rajnandani Kashyap 12 Mar '25

12 Mar '25

Hello Everyone I am trying to run jobs in phenix (real space refinement alignment with the other modelling jobs), but the system always crashes, and refinement doesn't complete. This is the structure of ribosome, and I am wondering what to do to get through the refinement. Is there any specific parameters I should be using. I tried to change the processors to 15 for a 20-processor computer. Let me know. Thanks in advance. FYI: There is no error message in the log. Best, Rajnandani ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rajnandani Kashyap, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology Saint Louis University, Antony Lab 1205 Carr Lane, DRC 451 St. Louis, MO 63104 https://orcid.org/0000-0002-9141-1168 -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Ion placement (anomalous) + occupancy refinement
by miha.pavsic＠fkkt.uni-lj.si 06 Mar '25

06 Mar '25

Hi everyone, I have a dataset from a protein that contains 2 Ca2+ binding sites. The Ca2+ loaded protein was crystallized in the presence of Tb3+ which at one site mostly replaced Ca2+, however at the other site the Tb3+/Ca2+ ratio appears to be much lower (judging from anomalous map; data collected at 1.3 Å wavelength, MR for phasing). The occupancy sum of Tb3+ and Ca2+ at each of the two sites is strongly believed to be 1. While I am aware of the ion placement option in phenix.refine, I am not so sure how to refine the partial occupancies using anomalous data, if possible. Many thanks for any hints, Miha

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AKM in Phenix
by lucas.santosouza＠outlook.com 06 Mar '25

06 Mar '25

Hi everyone, Is there still support for the generation of Average Kick Maps in Phenix? I am using both versions 1.21.2-5419 and the nightly build 2.0rc1-5555. I added kicked=True to the maps.params, but phenix.maps gives me "Unused parameter definitions: maps.map_coefficients.kicked (file "maps.params", line 53)". I also cannot see the "Kicked map" check box in the Create Maps GUI. Cheers, Lucas

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Refine partially occupied ligand in active site containing chloride ions
by Stephen.carr＠rc-harwell.ac.uk 06 Mar '25

06 Mar '25

Dear phenix bb, I am trying to refine a ligand in the active site of my protein where the ligand occupancy is ~50%. The empty active site contains two chloride ions and the residual density from these ions is very prominent when the model is refined with the ligand alone. I would like to refine the model with both the ligand and chloride ions present and have been trying to do this with altLoc flags but so far with no luck. I'm assuming that since the Cl ions more-or-less directly overlay atoms from the ligand positional refinement keeps pushing them out of the density. I'm sure there is a simple way to get around this and I would be grateful for any suggestions. Best wishes, Steve Dr Stephen Carr Research Complex at Harwell (RCaH) Rutherford Appleton Laboratory Harwell Oxford Didcot Oxon OX11 0FA United Kingdom Email stephen.carr(a)rc-harwell.ac.uk tel 01235 567717 This email and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee or an authorized recipient of the addressee, please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to this email. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Research Complex at Harwell. There is no guarantee that this email or any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the message. We use an electronic filing system. Please send electronic versions of documents, unless paper is specifically requested. This email may have a protective marking, for an explanation, please see: http://www.mrc.ac.uk/About/informationandstandards/documentmarking/index.htm.

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Program crash
by F.Xavier Gomis-Rüth 05 Mar '25

05 Mar '25

Dear all, I recently upgraded my MacOS to Sequoia 15.3.1 and found that previous phenix jobs that ran without problem suddenly crashed with the installation (phenix-1-21.2-5419) I had since August 2024. So I installed the latest on-built (phenix-2.0rc-5617) but it nonetheless crashed with the message below. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best, Xavier XGRMAC:cyc3 > Could not import the compiled Python-sander interface.Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/command_line/real_space_refine.py", line 8, in <module> run_program(real_space_refine.Program) File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/iotbx/cli_parser.py", line 980, in run_program task.run() File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/programs/real_space_refine.py", line 206, in run self.rsr_result = rsr_wrappers.run_real_space_refine( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/refinement/rsr/wrappers.py", line 52, in __init__ self._refined = macro_cycle_real_space.run( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/refinement/macro_cycle_real_space.py", line 306, in __init__ self.caller(self.refine_xyz) File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/refinement/macro_cycle_real_space.py", line 321, in caller func() File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/refinement/macro_cycle_real_space.py", line 704, in refine_xyz self.minimization_ncs() File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/phenix/refinement/macro_cycle_real_space.py", line 794, in minimization_ncs weight = real_space_weight.run( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/real_space/weight.py", line 84, in __init__ ro.refine( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/real_space/individual_sites.py", line 394, in refine real_space_result = refinery( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/real_space/individual_sites.py", line 233, in __init__ refiner.refine( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/real_space/individual_sites.py", line 126, in refine minimized = mmtbx.refinement.minimization_ncs_constraints.lbfgs( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/minimization_ncs_constraints.py", line 424, in __init__ minimizer = scitbx.lbfgs.run( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/scitbx/lbfgs/__init__.py", line 270, in run return run_c_plus_plus( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/scitbx/lbfgs/__init__.py", line 131, in run_c_plus_plus f, g = target_evaluator.compute_functional_and_gradients() File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/minimization_ncs_constraints.py", line 456, in compute_functional_and_gradients t,g = self.target_and_grads_object.target_and_gradients( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/minimization_ncs_constraints.py", line 242, in target_and_gradients t_restraints, g_restraints = restraints_target_and_grads( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mmtbx/refinement/minimization_ncs_constraints.py", line 110, in restraints_target_and_grads ef = restraints_manager.energies_sites( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/cctbx/geometry_restraints/manager.py", line 1524, in energies_sites pair_proxies = self.pair_proxies( File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/cctbx/geometry_restraints/manager.py", line 1427, in pair_proxies check_bonded_distance_cutoff(sites_frac=sites_frac) File "/Applications/phenix-2.0rc1-5617/lib/python3.9/site-packages/cctbx/geometry_restraints/manager.py", line 1308, in check_bonded_distance_cutoff raise RuntimeError(msg) RuntimeError: Bond distance > max_reasonable_bond_distance: 59.7151 > 50: distance: 0 - 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Cryo_fit installation
by omar.debei＠unipr.it 28 Feb '25

28 Feb '25

Hi everyone, I was wondering if you could help me with installing cryo_fit on an Ubuntu machine. I followed the instructions here for the cryo_fit installation. Then, I tried to follow this guide to install gromacs_cryo_fit. However, I got stuck at the "Install using a provided script" step. Do I need to install GROMACS separately before proceeding? Any tips would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks, Omar

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Register by Feb. 28th for the West Coast Structural Biology Workshop
by Michael Thompson 21 Feb '25

21 Feb '25

The registration and abstract submission deadlines for the 26th West Coast Structural Biology Workshop are just one week away... Register today, and be a part of this iconic meeting with over 50 years of tradition!! See below for a message about the conference: Dear Colleagues, The registration and abstract submission deadlines for the upcoming West Coast Structural Biology Workshop have been extended! The UPDATED deadlines for registration and abstract submission are Feb. 28, 2025. The meeting is scheduled for March 23-26, 2025 at its traditional location, the Asilomar Conference Center in Pacific Grove, CA. The conference website can be found at: https://wcsbw2025.macromolecules.xyz/. The WCSBW is a bi-annual meeting that showcases the latest methods, developments, and discoveries in structural biology, including X-ray Crystallography, Cryo-EM, NMR, and other methods. We strongly encourage anyone interested in method development and solutions to technical challenges in structural analysis to attend, even if you're not from the west coast. Importantly, the WCSBW aims to highlight the work of trainees, so all oral presentations (except keynotes) will be given by students and postdocs. The 26th edition of this meeting will include: * Opportunities to connect with leaders in the field, exchange practical advice, and stay at the forefront of structural biology advancements. * Exciting oral research presentations and engaging poster sessions. * Inspiring keynote presentations, featuring Prof. Bil Clemons from Caltech, and Dr. Junko Yano from Lawrence Berkeley National Lab. * A 2-hour workshop hosted by the Phenix developers, detailing the use of new tools for structure determination and analysis. * A networking session with scientists from west coast biotech companies for students and postdocs who are entering the job market. * Good company and beautiful views of the pacific ocean! Some details about the conference are included below, and more information is available at our website (see link above). We hope to see you at Asilomar in March! -Mike Thompson (UC Merced) and Alec Follmer (UC Davis) P.S. We ask for your help in sharing this announcement with any students, postdocs, staff, colleagues, collaborators, or friends that might be interested. Thanks! Conference Details: March 23-26, 2025 at Asilomar Conference Center in Pacific Grove, CA Visit the conference website at: https://wcsbw2025.macromolecules.xyz/ Registration: https://book.passkey.com/event/50870517/owner/10793795/home Registration fee is $200, plus lodging fees (meals included). Attendees need to book their lodging accommodations at Asilomar when registering for the conference. Both single and double occupancy rooms are available. If you do not have a roommate and would like us to pair you with one to lower costs, or if you would like to register for the conference and arrange your own accommodations offsite, please contact us at wcsbw2025(a)gmail.com<mailto:[email protected]>. Abstract Submission: https://wcsbw2025.macromolecules.xyz/registration/ All oral presentations at the WCSBW, except for the keynotes, will be given by trainees. Students (undergraduate or graduate) and Postdocs are welcome to submit abstracts for oral presentations. We welcome abstracts for poster presentations from attendees at any career stage. The deadline for submitting abstracts is February 28, 2025, and attendees must be registered for the meeting in order for their abstracts to be considered. Abstracts that are submitted for oral presentations and not selected will be automatically considered as poster abstracts. --- Michael C. Thompson, Ph.D. (he/him) Assistant Professor Dept. of Chemistry and Biochemistry University of California, Merced https://thompsonlab.science<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://thompsonlab.science__;!!LQC6Cpwp!-fv-nQ…>

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Postdoc and PhD positions in quantum/protein/electron crystallography. Application deadline March 2nd
by Paulina Dominiak 03 Feb '25

03 Feb '25

Dear Colleagues, We currently have several positions available in my group at the University of Warsaw - both postdoc and PhD. The research project combines quantum crystallography with protein crystallography, focusing on 3DED/microED techniques. We're interested in hearing from researchers with different backgrounds: * Software developers who want to learn crystallography * Protein crystallographers looking to expand their skills * Small-molecule crystallographers experienced with X-ray charge density studies * Researchers familiar with electron crystallography Detailed information about the positions, project description, and application links can be found at: http://4xeden.uw.edu.pl/2025/01/18/bio-qcr/ <http://4xeden.uw.edu.pl/2025/01/18/bio-qcr/> Application deadline: March 2nd, 2025 Please share this opportunity with qualified candidates who might be interested. For additional information, feel free to contact me directly. Best regards, Paulina -- Prof. dr hab. Paulina M. Dominiak Group Leader Electron Density Modelling Group Laboratory for Structural and Biochemical Research (LBSBio) Biological and Chemical Research Centre Department of Chemistry University of Warsaw ul. Zwirki i Wigury 101 02-089 Warszawa, Poland Room: 3.125 E-mail:[email protected] Phone: (48) 22 55 26 714 WWW:http://4xeden.uw.edu.pl

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DEADLINE EXTENDED: 26th West Coast Structural Biology Workshop
by Michael Thompson 03 Feb '25

03 Feb '25

Dear Colleagues, The registration and abstract submission deadlines for the upcoming West Coast Structural Biology Workshop have been extended! The UPDATED deadlines for registration and abstract submission are Feb. 28, 2025 and Feb. 21, 2025 respectively. The meeting is scheduled for March 23-26, 2025 at its traditional location, the Asilomar Conference Center in Pacific Grove, CA. The conference website can be found at: https://wcsbw2025.macromolecules.xyz/. The WCSBW is a bi-annual meeting that showcases the latest methods, developments, and discoveries in structural biology, including X-ray Crystallography, Cryo-EM, NMR, and other methods. We strongly encourage anyone interested in method development and solutions to technical challenges in structural analysis to attend, even if you're not from the west coast. Importantly, the WCSBW aims to highlight the work of trainees, so all oral presentations (except keynotes) will be given by students and postdocs. The 26th edition of this meeting will include: * Opportunities to connect with leaders in the field, exchange practical advice, and stay at the forefront of structural biology advancements. * Exciting oral research presentations and engaging poster sessions. * Inspiring keynote presentations, featuring Prof. Bil Clemons from Caltech, and Dr. Junko Yano from Lawrence Berkeley National Lab. * A 2-hour workshop hosted by the Phenix developers, detailing the use of new tools for structure determination and analysis. * A networking session with scientists from west coast biotech companies for students and postdocs who are entering the job market. * Good company and beautiful views of the pacific ocean! Some details about the conference are included below, and more information is available at our website (see link above). We hope to see you at Asilomar in March! -Mike Thompson (UC Merced) and Alec Follmer (UC Davis) P.S. We ask for your help in sharing this announcement with any students, postdocs, staff, colleagues, collaborators, or friends that might be interested. Thanks! Conference Details: March 23-26, 2025 at Asilomar Conference Center in Pacific Grove, CA Visit the conference website at: https://wcsbw2025.macromolecules.xyz/ Registration: https://book.passkey.com/event/50870517/owner/10793795/home Registration fee is $200, plus lodging fees (meals included). Attendees need to book their lodging accommodations at Asilomar when registering for the conference. Both single and double occupancy rooms are available. If you do not have a roommate and would like us to pair you with one to lower costs, or if you would like to register for the conference and arrange your own accommodations offsite, please contact us at wcsbw2025(a)gmail.com<mailto:[email protected]>. Abstract Submission: https://wcsbw2025.macromolecules.xyz/registration/ All oral presentations at the WCSBW, except for the keynotes, will be given by trainees. Students (undergraduate or graduate) and Postdocs are welcome to submit abstracts for oral presentations. We welcome abstracts for poster presentations from attendees at any career stage. The deadline for submitting abstracts is February 21, 2025, and attendees must be registered for the meeting in order for their abstracts to be considered. Abstracts that are submitted for oral presentations and not selected will be automatically considered as poster abstracts. --- Michael C. Thompson, Ph.D. (he/him) Assistant Professor Dept. of Chemistry and Biochemistry University of California, Merced https://thompsonlab.science<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://thompsonlab.science__;!!LQC6Cpwp!-fv-nQ…>

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Re: Uknown non bonded
by Yann Lefrançois.C 30 Jan '25

30 Jan '25

Hi thank you for your reply, I'm not working with ligand, but a complexe. I do not have hydrogen in my model, so it seems I have a bigger problem. [image: image.png] I tried to use PDB_REDO, however i'm using mrc format for my ED map Le jeu. 30 janv. 2025 à 16:39, Georg Mlynek <georg.mlynek(a)univie.ac.at> a écrit : > Hi Yann, can you post a screenshot of the error message? It should be > stated there which are causing problems. > > Very often the problems are hydrogens. So just delete those. One easy > way is to do is to open in coot and when saving there is a tick box > without hydrogens. There are also tools in phenix doing this. > > Also you can submit the pdb to PDB_REDO to check if there are more sever > problems. If PDB_REDO runs then there are no big errors. Then just use > the output for phenix refine. > > And as Xavier wrote ligands also can cause problems. But also there most > times the hydrogens. > > Br, Georg. > > > Am 2025-01-30 um 4:26 PM schrieb yannlefrancoiscopy(a)gmail.com: > > Hello, > > I'm a newbie phenix user, and i was trying to refine a model. > > > > and when i tried to refine it, I got an error message saying that some > atoms had unknown nonbonded interaction. > > > > However, there are no indication to which one are problematic, Any tips > on how to find the problematic one and how to correct them ? > > > > best wishes, > > Yann > > _______________________________________________ > > phenixbb mailing list -- phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to phenixbb-leave(a)phenix-online.org > > Unsubscribe: phenixbb-leave@%(host_name)s >

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