Hi All

This a question of  general Crystallography and use of Phenix to deal with twinned data.

I am having difficulties with a data set. We have data (2.6 ang resolution) that can be scaled and reduced in P222 with a Rmerge of 7%, the systematic absences show a screw axis ( it is P22(1)2).
However MR in Phaser failed in this orthorhombic settings when searching for  2 molecules of the  complex in the AU. 
If we reduce and scale the data in P2(1) and look at the diffraction pattern in HKLVIEW there is  a /mmm symmetry. In the monoclinic P2(1) setting we can find 4 molecules of the complex (by MR in Phaser) and can refine it with Phenix  to a Rfac/Rfree of 28%/34%. 2 molecules have good electron density whereas the two other ones have one of their domain very poorly defined in density. This is looking very suspicious to me and I am wondering if this refined structure is partially wrong?

Meanwhile  I used phenix.triage on the data processed in P222 and I am confused with the output.  

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##                   Twinning Analyses                ##
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Using data between 10.00 to 3.36 Angstrom.

Determining possible twin laws.

The following twin laws have been found:

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| Type | Axis   | R metric (%) | delta (le Page) | delta (Lebedev) | Twin law |
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|  PM  | 4-fold | 2.851        | 0.000           | 0.013           | -l,k,h   |
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M:  Merohedral twin law
PM: Pseudomerohedral twin law

  0 merohedral twin operators found
  1 pseudo-merohedral twin operators found
In total,   1 twin operator were found


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 Analysing possible twin law :  -l,k,h
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Results of the H-test on acentric data: 

 (Only 50.0% of the strongest twin pairs were used)

mean |H| : 0.368   (0.50: untwinned; 0.0: 50% twinned)
mean H^2 : 0.194   (0.33: untwinned; 0.0: 50% twinned)
Estimation of twin fraction via mean |H|: 0.132
Estimation of twin fraction via cum. dist. of H: 0.115

Britton analyses

  Extrapolation performed on  0.14 < alpha < 0.495 
  Estimated twin fraction: 0.127
  Correlation: 0.9955


By comparison if I run the detect_twin routine of CNS it tells me that they are no merohedral twin laws for the point group 222 (using the statistical method of Yeates) ? This is  confusing me quite a bit.


Assuming that the twinning law suggested by Phenix is correct how should I proceed? 
I have noticed the section concerning refinement using twinned data in Phenix
phenix.refine data.hkl model.pdb twin_law="-k,-h,-l" detwin.map_types.aniso_correct=true

but It seems I  only have a MR solution in P2(1) but not in P222(1) so how can I refine in P222(1)

I will greatly appreciate your input, many thanks.


Pascal F. Egea, PhD
University of California San Francisco
Department of Biophysics and Biochemistry
Robert Stroud Laboratory