Hi Ezequiel,

just to make it clear: torsion-angle NCS, Optimize X-ray/stereo weight are *not* the default settings, therefore you did customize the refinement parameters.

At this resolution (1.3A) you do not need to use NCS restraints.

Also, you say you used "Automatically add H's" however the PDB file you sent me does not contain any H atoms. Furthermore, the PDB file header says H are present:

REMARK MODEL CONTENT.                                                          
REMARK  ELEMENT        ATOM RECORD COUNT   OCCUPANCY SUM                       
REMARK        C                     1275         1047.00                       
REMARK        H                     2029         1649.00                       
REMARK        O                      559          488.50                       
REMARK        N                      315          263.00                       
REMARK        S                        6            6.00                       
REMARK       Cu                        4            2.89                       
REMARK    TOTAL                     4188         3456.39                       

So overall this make an impression that something has gone wrong.

Way forward:

1) Take the file you sent me;

2) Add H atoms:

phenix.reduce model_no_h.pdb > model_with_h.pdb

3) Use new file with H atoms added to run refinement. The only setting different from defaults should be "Optimize X-ray/stereo weight". Perhaps you can also enable automated water update.

I just did all this myself and got nicely refined model with

Final: r_work = 0.1624 r_free = 0.1939 bonds = 0.010 angles = 1.030

Corresponding PDB and MTZ are sent in a separate email that goes to you only (off mailing list).

Pavel

On 12/6/15 07:59, Ezequiel Noguera wrote:
Hi Pavel, thank you very much for your help. I attach the data. I didn´t customize parameters. The refinement stategy of the last job was: XYZ coords, Real-space, Individual B-factors, torsion-angle NCS, Optimize X-ray/stereo wght and X-ray/ADP wght, Automatically add H's and correct N/Q/H errors.


Hi Ezequiel,

deviations are not unexpected in general but not that large as you report, so I wonder what's going on.. Could you please send me input data and model files, as well as any ligand files you used. If you customized some parameters, telling what were those would be helpful too.

Please send all files off-list to my email directly.

Thanks,
Pavel

Hello, I'm working in a refinement that I started some time ago. I noted that repeating the same refinement task using a newer version of phenix, the refinement statistics Before and After refinement are different from values of the old version (I used "restore job" from the Job history to repeat the same task in the two versions installed in the same PC). Any explanation? I'm worried about the rms deviation. Thanks in advance.

new version:
R-work: start=0.1697, final=0.1761
R-free: start=0.2011, final=0.2053
Bonds: start=0.046, final=0.029
Angles: start=1.321, final= 0.631

old version:
R-work: start=0.1651, final=0.1657
R-free: start=0.2018, final=0.2009
Bonds: start=0.013, final=0.013
Angles: start=1.409, final= 1.411