Hi Oli,
Yes, this is a problem that has always plagued EM. Unfortunately it was never really dealt with because it's not much of an issue for lower resolution image reconstructions unless you're doing very detailed difference maps from the X-ray model. The problem is more pronounced now because atoms are finally being modelled into the reconstructions. This is something that most microscopists are not familiar with and thus do no go through the rigour of pixel correction. Most magnification/pixel size calibrations involve using diffraction from a 2D crystal with known cell parameters. This, in my opinion, is insufficient given that protein isomorphous x-tals are not all that common. Moreover, we know from our x-ray crystallography experiments that the final lattice constants of a x-tal are calculated during the scaling stage not just the indexing stage.
I would imaging that the rmsd values for your bonds and angles are a bit messed up as well. Your fastest way of dealing with the situation is to write scripts that modify the pixel size and calculate CC-values or R/Rfree factors between your model and the image reconstruction.
Reza
Hi Oliver,
Out of curiosity:
1. what kind of R-factors and CC-values do you get when refining against the two different pixel size?
2. how different are your refined pixel sizes from one reconstruction to another?
3. how much of an affect does the wrong pixel size have on your downstream structure analysis (e.g. BDA, ASA, electrostatic...)?
Best wishes,
Reza
Reza Khayat, PhDAssistant ProfessorCity College of New YorkDepartment of ChemistryNew York, NY 10031
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Subject: [phenixbb] Refine pixel size of map (for EM data)?Hello,I wonder whether it would be possible to add an option for phenix.real_space_refine to allow refinement of the pixel size of the map (or the unit cell dimensions - just an overall size scale factor), and write out the altered map at the end of refinement.
Although we try to calibrate this as best as we are able at the time of data collection, it is never perfect - for example, in one case I have dealt with, our nominal pixel size out of the scope is 1.19 Å, but the pixel size calibrated based on a crystal structure of a fragment of the protein is 1.25 Å. This is not a huge difference, but it is sufficient I think to have a substantial impact on refinement, particularly as regards clash assessment and H-bond/sec struc restraints.
In cases where one does not have a solved crystal structure to use for calibration, perhaps refining the pixel size in conjunction with the geometry might be of some use?
Cheers,
Oli