Hello, I am refining a structure at 2.1A solved by MR. For curiosity I'm testing things like 'shaking' coordinates, simulated annealing, refinement Refmac vs Phenix and so on, to see what influence that has on stats, maps etc. For instance after MR I did a bit of shaking the coordinates with pdbset (noise 0.1), followed by simulated annealing in Phenix. Phenix states after SA: Start R-work = 0.2671, R-free = 0.2992 Final R-work = 0.2312, R-free = 0.2666 When I use the output pdb of phenix directly in Refmac (with same mtz as input for Phenix) Refmac tells me: Initial R factor 0.2392 R free 0.2887 So I am quite puzzled about the discrepancy. Or can someone tell me if I made an error in reasoning somewhere? Thanks a lot for the help! Sabine