Forgive me for saying this but the object of refinement is to build the most accurate model, not to obtain the lowest Rvalue, which will vary with weights applied to diffraction data versus constraints. There have been multiple posts about this on crystallographic BBs in the last few months ... -----Original Message----- From: Jianghai Zhu [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sat 8/4/2007 9:19 PM To: PHENIX user mailing list Subject: [phenixbb] R, Rfree, and wxu_scale Hi, Just finished a round of refinement. Rfree went up about 1% and R went down a bit. I am wondering what happened here. Also Rfree always went down after TLS refinement but always went up a lot more after the individual ADP refinement. Is there anything I can do here? Should I use weaker B restraints? I tried to assign a wxu_scale value. But phenix.refine automatically adjust it to 1.81 every time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ R-factors, x-ray target values and norm of gradient of x-ray target stage r-work r-free xray_target_w xray_target_t 0 : 0.3982 0.5701 6.156859e+00 6.238509e+00 1_bss: 0.2008 0.2494 5.949117e+00 6.088855e+00 1_xyz: 0.2030 0.2497 5.953829e+00 6.091696e+00 1_adp: 0.1998 0.2559 5.952833e+00 6.099340e+00 2_bss: 0.1996 0.2557 5.952517e+00 6.099196e+00 2_xyz: 0.1984 0.2576 5.953246e+00 6.104085e+00 2_adp: 0.1974 0.2578 5.950434e+00 6.102336e+00 3_bss: 0.1972 0.2574 5.950333e+00 6.102222e+00 3_xyz: 0.1997 0.2576 5.956524e+00 6.103647e+00 3_adp: 0.1987 0.2590 5.955554e+00 6.104434e+00 3_bss: 0.1986 0.2588 5.955445e+00 6.104227e+00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Weights for target T = Exray * wxc * wxc_scale + Echem * wc and angles between gradient vectors, eg. (d_Exray/d_sites, d_Echem/d_sites) stage wxc wxu wxc_sc wxu_sc /_gxc,gc /_gxu,gu 0 : 5.5611e-01 7.2249e-01 0.050 1.810 96.334 101.736 1_bss: 5.5611e-01 7.2249e-01 0.050 1.810 96.334 101.736 1_xyz: 4.5001e-01 6.1023e-01 0.050 1.810 96.591 102.016 1_adp: 4.5001e-01 6.1023e-01 0.050 1.810 96.591 102.016 2_bss: 4.5001e-01 6.1023e-01 0.050 1.810 96.591 102.016 2_xyz: 5.1326e-01 6.5356e-01 0.050 1.810 112.802 141.393 2_adp: 5.1326e-01 6.5356e-01 0.050 1.810 112.802 141.393 3_bss: 5.1326e-01 6.5356e-01 0.050 1.810 112.802 141.393 3_xyz: 3.3568e-01 7.0695e-01 0.050 1.810 111.975 135.760 3_adp: 3.3568e-01 7.0695e-01 0.050 1.810 111.975 135.760 3_bss: 3.3568e-01 7.0695e-01 0.050 1.810 111.975 135.760 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jianghai +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Jianghai Zhu, Ph.D CBR Institute for Biomedical Research Department of Pathology Harvard Medical School 200 Longwood Ave., Boston, MA 02115 Ph: 617-278-3211 Fx: 618-278-3232 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++