Hi, just to second Nat's reply - yes, if you send the files to [email protected] I will be happy to have a look. I've seen cases which are genuinely troublesome (and which we may not be able to help much with given how much time we can afford to spend), but also I witnessed situations where an "R-factor and refinement" trouble like this was due to using Iobs calling them Fobs (or something like this obviously wrong and simple to detect and correct). Pavel On 4/22/13 7:57 AM, Nathaniel Echols wrote:

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Now I'm triying to refine almost perfect twining data (mixing of P31 and P32). It has a twining operation of (h, k, l) = (-h, -k, l), detected by the xtriage program. The data qualigy seems to be good, deflacting to 1.6A resolution with Rmerge ~ 5%.

When I refined the MR structures with phenix.refine, however, the model geometries have been worse as over the 20% residues fall into disallowed Ramachandran region, and Rfree stacked around 30%. I tried many options such as real space refinement, SA, bad rotamer fixation, NCS restrain,,.., but they seem to be not so effective as usual twininig cases..

One molecule consists of 202 residues, and three molecules are inolved in AU.

Of course, I used the twin option (-h, -k, l) during the refinement. Manual collection of the models could not improve the model anymore.

Would anyone please advise me how should I refine the twinned data? This sounds pathological (and/or a bug), but it's difficult to tell without looking at the model and data - would you be willing to send

On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:45 AM, miyatake wrote: the files to us privately? (I'm sure Pavel will want to see it too, so [email protected] is the best address for this.)

One suggestion would be to run AutoBuild - with 1.6Å data it should work very well (as long as you enter the appropriate twin law).

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