symmetry rejected as inconsistent by model_vs_data
Hello, phenix.model_vs_data_1.10.1-2155, along with printing to stderr: Sorry: Crystal symmetry mismatch between different files. prints these, and only these, lines to stdout: x251682_scaled3.mtz (36.692, 53.798, 108.063, 90, 84.258, 90) P 1 21 1 readySet.pdb (36.69, 53.8, 108.06, 90, 84.26, 90) P 1 21 1 Is this related to this code http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_docs/cctbx/cctbx.crystal.html#cctbx.crystal.symmetr... ? Can I force phenix.model_vs_data to omit this isomorphism check and “run” with the reflection dimensions? Thank you. Wolfram
Hi Wolfram,
Yes, this is correct. The machinery used to read in the files uses
is_similar_symmetry to check for symmetry mismatch.
As it is on a deeper level than model_vs_data, there is no keyword to
override this, unfortunately.
In your example, did you try to edit your pdb file so that the unit cell
dimensions match exactly?
Best wishes,
Dorothee
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:47 PM, wtempel
Hello, phenix.model_vs_data_1.10.1-2155, along with printing to stderr: Sorry: Crystal symmetry mismatch between different files.
prints these, and only these, lines to stdout:
x251682_scaled3.mtz (36.692, 53.798, 108.063, 90, 84.258, 90) P 1 21 1 readySet.pdb (36.69, 53.8, 108.06, 90, 84.26, 90) P 1 21 1
Is this related to this code http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_docs/cctbx/cctbx.crystal.html#cctbx.crystal.symmetr... ? Can I force phenix.model_vs_data to omit this isomorphism check and “run” with the reflection dimensions? Thank you. Wolfram
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Hello Dorothee,
the "mismatch" flag did indeed lead me to edit the PDB's cell dimensions
and model_vs_data runs.
With which tolerance parameters does model_vs_data call
is_similar_symmetry? Tighter than the defaults listed in the documentation?
Regards,
Wolfram
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Dorothee Liebschner
Hi Wolfram,
Yes, this is correct. The machinery used to read in the files uses is_similar_symmetry to check for symmetry mismatch. As it is on a deeper level than model_vs_data, there is no keyword to override this, unfortunately.
In your example, did you try to edit your pdb file so that the unit cell dimensions match exactly?
Best wishes,
Dorothee
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:47 PM, wtempel
wrote: Hello, phenix.model_vs_data_1.10.1-2155, along with printing to stderr: Sorry: Crystal symmetry mismatch between different files.
prints these, and only these, lines to stdout:
x251682_scaled3.mtz (36.692, 53.798, 108.063, 90, 84.258, 90) P 1 21 1 readySet.pdb (36.69, 53.8, 108.06, 90, 84.26, 90) P 1 21 1
Is this related to this code http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_docs/cctbx/cctbx.crystal.html#cctbx.crystal.symmetr... ? Can I force phenix.model_vs_data to omit this isomorphism check and “run” with the reflection dimensions? Thank you. Wolfram
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Hi Wolfram,
Does it work with the edited pdb file?
is_similar_symmetry is not called in model_vs_data directly, but via
another function. There, tolerance parameters are 1e-2 for absolute cell
lengths and angles.
Best wishes,
Dorothee
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:02 PM, wtempel
Hello Dorothee, the "mismatch" flag did indeed lead me to edit the PDB's cell dimensions and model_vs_data runs. With which tolerance parameters does model_vs_data call is_similar_symmetry? Tighter than the defaults listed in the documentation? Regards, Wolfram
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Dorothee Liebschner
wrote:
Hi Wolfram,
Yes, this is correct. The machinery used to read in the files uses is_similar_symmetry to check for symmetry mismatch. As it is on a deeper level than model_vs_data, there is no keyword to override this, unfortunately.
In your example, did you try to edit your pdb file so that the unit cell dimensions match exactly?
Best wishes,
Dorothee
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:47 PM, wtempel
wrote: Hello, phenix.model_vs_data_1.10.1-2155, along with printing to stderr: Sorry: Crystal symmetry mismatch between different files.
prints these, and only these, lines to stdout:
x251682_scaled3.mtz (36.692, 53.798, 108.063, 90, 84.258, 90) P 1 21 1 readySet.pdb (36.69, 53.8, 108.06, 90, 84.26, 90) P 1 21 1
Is this related to this code http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_docs/cctbx/cctbx.crystal.html#cctbx.crystal.symmetr... ? Can I force phenix.model_vs_data to omit this isomorphism check and “run” with the reflection dimensions? Thank you. Wolfram
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Yes, Dorothee. It *does* work after editing the PDB file. But are not the
two sets of cell dimensions within the tolerance limits you mentioned?
W.
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Dorothee Liebschner
Hi Wolfram,
Does it work with the edited pdb file?
is_similar_symmetry is not called in model_vs_data directly, but via another function. There, tolerance parameters are 1e-2 for absolute cell lengths and angles.
Best wishes,
Dorothee
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:02 PM, wtempel
wrote: Hello Dorothee, the "mismatch" flag did indeed lead me to edit the PDB's cell dimensions and model_vs_data runs. With which tolerance parameters does model_vs_data call is_similar_symmetry? Tighter than the defaults listed in the documentation? Regards, Wolfram
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Dorothee Liebschner < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Wolfram,
Yes, this is correct. The machinery used to read in the files uses is_similar_symmetry to check for symmetry mismatch. As it is on a deeper level than model_vs_data, there is no keyword to override this, unfortunately.
In your example, did you try to edit your pdb file so that the unit cell dimensions match exactly?
Best wishes,
Dorothee
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:47 PM, wtempel
wrote: Hello, phenix.model_vs_data_1.10.1-2155, along with printing to stderr: Sorry: Crystal symmetry mismatch between different files.
prints these, and only these, lines to stdout:
x251682_scaled3.mtz (36.692, 53.798, 108.063, 90, 84.258, 90) P 1 21 1 readySet.pdb (36.69, 53.8, 108.06, 90, 84.26, 90) P 1 21 1
Is this related to this code http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_docs/cctbx/cctbx.crystal.html#cctbx.crystal.symmetr... ? Can I force phenix.model_vs_data to omit this isomorphism check and “run” with the reflection dimensions? Thank you. Wolfram
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Hi Wolfram,
The cell dimensions are indeed within the tolerance limit. I am not sure
why they are flagged as mismatch, though.
Thanks for pointing out this case.
Best wishes,
Dorothee
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:01 PM, wtempel
Yes, Dorothee. It *does* work after editing the PDB file. But are not the two sets of cell dimensions within the tolerance limits you mentioned? W.
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Dorothee Liebschner
wrote:
Hi Wolfram,
Does it work with the edited pdb file?
is_similar_symmetry is not called in model_vs_data directly, but via another function. There, tolerance parameters are 1e-2 for absolute cell lengths and angles.
Best wishes,
Dorothee
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:02 PM, wtempel
wrote: Hello Dorothee, the "mismatch" flag did indeed lead me to edit the PDB's cell dimensions and model_vs_data runs. With which tolerance parameters does model_vs_data call is_similar_symmetry? Tighter than the defaults listed in the documentation? Regards, Wolfram
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Dorothee Liebschner < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Wolfram,
Yes, this is correct. The machinery used to read in the files uses is_similar_symmetry to check for symmetry mismatch. As it is on a deeper level than model_vs_data, there is no keyword to override this, unfortunately.
In your example, did you try to edit your pdb file so that the unit cell dimensions match exactly?
Best wishes,
Dorothee
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:47 PM, wtempel
wrote: Hello, phenix.model_vs_data_1.10.1-2155, along with printing to stderr: Sorry: Crystal symmetry mismatch between different files.
prints these, and only these, lines to stdout:
x251682_scaled3.mtz (36.692, 53.798, 108.063, 90, 84.258, 90) P 1 21 1 readySet.pdb (36.69, 53.8, 108.06, 90, 84.26, 90) P 1 21 1
Is this related to this code http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_docs/cctbx/cctbx.crystal.html#cctbx.crystal.symmetr... ? Can I force phenix.model_vs_data to omit this isomorphism check and “run” with the reflection dimensions? Thank you. Wolfram
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Hi Wolfram, I just made up PDB and MTZ files that have unit cell dimensions precisely as you quoted below, and phenix.model_vs_data runs fine with these files. I vaguely remember that someone brought this problem before (after 1.10.1-2155) and I addressed it. So my suggestion is to use latest nightly build and hopefully the problem goes away. Please let us know otherwise. Pavel On 3/29/16 12:47, wtempel wrote:
Hello, phenix.model_vs_data_1.10.1-2155, along with printing to stderr: |Sorry: Crystal symmetry mismatch between different files.|
prints these, and only these, lines to stdout:
|x251682_scaled3.mtz (36.692, 53.798, 108.063, 90, 84.258, 90) P 1 21 1 readySet.pdb (36.69, 53.8, 108.06, 90, 84.26, 90) P 1 21 1 |
Is this related to this code http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_docs/cctbx/cctbx.crystal.html#cctbx.crystal.symmetr...? Can I force phenix.model_vs_data to omit this isomorphism check and “run” with the reflection dimensions? Thank you. Wolfram
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Dorothee Liebschner
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Pavel Afonine
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wtempel