Phenix.refine peptide chain break
Dear all, I am refining a structure after renumbering my chain such that there is a gap in numbering (i.e. chain A ends at 350 and then starts again at 1000) as this has numbering has been recommended for us to use by the PDB for our fusion proteins. I'm having issues with Phenix.refine not understanding that their is still a peptide bond and breaks the chain and pushes the atoms away. There is no TER card between the chains and I've used LINK records as well to no avail. I'm wondering how to properly deal with this. Thanks, Jason
Hi Jason, could you please send me PDB file or fraction of it containing the brake in question? Pavel On 7/26/16 07:54, Booe, Jason M (HSC) wrote:
Dear all,
I am refining a structure after renumbering my chain such that there is a gap in numbering (i.e. chain A ends at 350 and then starts again at 1000) as this has numbering has been recommended for us to use by the PDB for our fusion proteins. I'm having issues with Phenix.refine not understanding that their is still a peptide bond and breaks the chain and pushes the atoms away. There is no TER card between the chains and I've used LINK records as well to no avail. I'm wondering how to properly deal with this.
Thanks, Jason
Dear all, Dear Pavel, I have encountered a problem where a new bond was generated between the O of SO4 and O(H) of my ligand (with a glycerol head group, I call it glycerol here). As shown in the figure in the Dropbox link below, I have placed the glycerol (purple) in the density and it fits well. The distance between the O of SO4 and the OH of glycerol was 2.55 angstrom. After refinement (yellow) however, the glycerol was pulled out of density with the distance changed to 1.27 angstrom, therefore forming a new bond. When hydrogens were added to the glycerol, the glycerol was again pulled, forming a C-O bond between SO4 and glycerol. When the positions (xyz) of the glycerol atoms were fixed, the SO4 was pulled towards glycerol, making a O-O bond between SO4 and glycerol. When the positions of the SO4 and glycerol were both fixed during the refinement, the result came out saying the bond length was too long between the the O (SO4) and the O (glycerol). Thus I thought Phenix must treated it as a covalent bond. I have tried Rafmac and it did not do this to the model. The cif files etc were the same for Phenix and Rafmac. The problem appeared both on version 1.10-2152 and the latest version 1.10.2155. How could I fix this problem? Many thanks, Jingyi Hu https://www.dropbox.com/s/3i53kvlmds591f5/phenix-SO4-new-bond.png?dl=0 phenix-SO4-new-bond.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/3i53kvlmds591f5/phenix-SO4-new-bond.png?dl=0 www.dropbox.com Shared with Dropbox
Hi, sounds like a bug. Could you please send me PDB file (please send to me directly, not entire mailing list)? Meanwhile, a quick work-around is to use link_ligands=False (if you are using command line) or if using the GUI: Refinement settings -> Automatic linking options -> uncheck "Link ligands to protein" . Pavel On 7/28/16 05:39, Amber Lee wrote:
Dear all, Dear Pavel,
I have encountered a problem where a new bond was generated between the O of SO4 and O(H) of my ligand (with a glycerol head group, I call it glycerol here).
As shown in the figure in the Dropbox link below, I have placed the glycerol (purple) in the density and it fits well. The distance between the O of SO4 and the OH of glycerol was 2.55 angstrom. After refinement (yellow) however, the glycerol was pulled out of density with the distance changed to 1.27 angstrom, therefore forming a new bond.
When hydrogens were added to the glycerol, the glycerol was again pulled, forming a C-O bond between SO4 and glycerol.
When the positions (xyz) of the glycerol atoms were fixed, the SO4 was pulled towards glycerol, making a O-O bond between SO4 and glycerol.
When the positions of the SO4 and glycerol were both fixed during the refinement, the result came out saying the bond length was too long between the the O (SO4) and the O (glycerol).
Thus I thought Phenix must treated it as a covalent bond.
I have tried Rafmac and it did not do this to the model. The cif files etc were the same for Phenix and Rafmac.
The problem appeared both on version 1.10-2152 and the latest version 1.10.2155.
How could I fix this problem?
Many thanks,
Jingyi Hu
Please send me the file directly.
Cheers
Nigel
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On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Pavel Afonine
Hi,
sounds like a bug. Could you please send me PDB file (please send to me directly, not entire mailing list)?
Meanwhile, a quick work-around is to use link_ligands=False (if you are using command line) or if using the GUI:
Refinement settings -> Automatic linking options -> uncheck "Link ligands to protein" .
Pavel
On 7/28/16 05:39, Amber Lee wrote:
Dear all, Dear Pavel,
I have encountered a problem where a new bond was generated between the O of SO4 and O(H) of my ligand (with a glycerol head group, I call it glycerol here).
As shown in the figure in the Dropbox link below, I have placed the glycerol (purple) in the density and it fits well. The distance between the O of SO4 and the OH of glycerol was 2.55 angstrom. After refinement (yellow) however, the glycerol was pulled out of density with the distance changed to 1.27 angstrom, therefore forming a new bond.
When hydrogens were added to the glycerol, the glycerol was again pulled, forming a C-O bond between SO4 and glycerol.
When the positions (xyz) of the glycerol atoms were fixed, the SO4 was pulled towards glycerol, making a O-O bond between SO4 and glycerol.
When the positions of the SO4 and glycerol were both fixed during the refinement, the result came out saying the bond length was too long between the the O (SO4) and the O (glycerol).
Thus I thought Phenix must treated it as a covalent bond.
I have tried Rafmac and it did not do this to the model. The cif files etc were the same for Phenix and Rafmac.
The problem appeared both on version 1.10-2152 and the latest version 1.10.2155.
How could I fix this problem?
Many thanks,
Jingyi Hu
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Nigel, I have the file. Pavel On 7/29/16 06:37, Nigel Moriarty wrote:
Please send me the file directly.
Cheers
Nigel
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On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Pavel Afonine
mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Hi,
sounds like a bug. Could you please send me PDB file (please send to me directly, not entire mailing list)?
Meanwhile, a quick work-around is to use link_ligands=False (if you are using command line) or if using the GUI:
Refinement settings -> Automatic linking options -> uncheck "Link ligands to protein" .
Pavel
On 7/28/16 05:39, Amber Lee wrote:
Dear all, Dear Pavel,
I have encountered a problem where a new bond was generated between the O of SO4 and O(H) of my ligand (with a glycerol head group, I call it glycerol here).
As shown in the figure in the Dropbox link below, I have placed the glycerol (purple) in the density and it fits well. The distance between the O of SO4 and the OH of glycerol was 2.55 angstrom. After refinement (yellow) however, the glycerol was pulled out of density with the distance changed to 1.27 angstrom, therefore forming a new bond.
When hydrogens were added to the glycerol, the glycerol was again pulled, forming a C-O bond between SO4 and glycerol.
When the positions (xyz) of the glycerol atoms were fixed, the SO4 was pulled towards glycerol, making a O-O bond between SO4 and glycerol.
When the positions of the SO4 and glycerol were both fixed during the refinement, the result came out saying the bond length was too long between the the O (SO4) and the O (glycerol).
Thus I thought Phenix must treated it as a covalent bond.
I have tried Rafmac and it did not do this to the model. The cif files etc were the same for Phenix and Rafmac.
The problem appeared both on version 1.10-2152 and the latest version 1.10.2155.
How could I fix this problem?
Many thanks,
Jingyi Hu
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Amber Lee
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Booe, Jason M (HSC)
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Nigel Moriarty
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Pavel Afonine