I have a few questions related to a 3.5 angstrom structure. I have one helix that I am having trouble placing accurately. It does have a cysteine that disulfide bonds with the same residue in a symmetry related molecule. Can I restrain this distance during a rigid body refinement of the helix? How do I do this? What kind of parameters would be appropriate for the disulfide? My second question is whether someone can suggest appropriate distance_ideal, sigma, and slack for hydrogen bond restraints for a helix? Also, I have a 2 angstrom structure of this part of the complex for reference. Thanks! Kendall Nettles
On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Kendall Nettles wrote:
My second question is whether someone can suggest appropriate distance_ideal, sigma, and slack for hydrogen bond restraints for a helix? Also, I have a 2 angstrom structure of this part of the complex for reference.
I was hoping someone would ask this question. If you download version 1.6.1-336 from the nightly builds page, phenix.refine has a very preliminary implementation of secondary structure restraints that I'd like to test. To use, add "main.secondary_structure_restraints=True" to the command line. In theory, everything else is automatic, but you may need to tweak some of the parameters in the secondary_structure scope to get it to work properly. If you want more control over secondary structure assignments, run phenix.secondary_structure_restraints to generate the group selections for use in phenix.refine. (You can do all of this in the GUI too, but it is deliberately kept hidden until I'm sure it works - I can explain how to find it though.) The parameters that I found worked best were: 1.975 A for distance_ideal 0.02 for sigma 0 for slack although the default for sigma is currently 0.05. I found it worked much better to use actual hydrogens for this, but you can fake it with N-O restraints with a distance of 3A. The default behavior is to throw out any "bonds" that exceed 2.5A, because the annotations are often unreliable and can improperly restrain atoms, but if your starting structure is particularly messy you may want to turn filtering off ("h_bond_restraints.remove_outliers=False"). Let me know if this works; I haven't had much opportunity to test it thoroughly, but it can improve R-free even at moderate resolutions. (It can also hurt, but this appears to be less common so far.) Nat -------------------- Nathaniel Echols Lawrence Berkeley Lab 510-486-5136 [email protected]
Hi Kendall, by the way, we now have secondary structure restraint which is expected to be useful at low resolution refinement, and they are generated automatically. So now you don't need to do this tedious work manually.
I have a few questions related to a 3.5 angstrom structure. I have one helix that I am having trouble placing accurately. It does have a cysteine that disulfide bonds with the same residue in a symmetry related molecule. Can I restrain this distance during a rigid body refinement of the helix? How do I do this? What kind of parameters would be appropriate for the disulfide?
Just discussed it with Ralf. Not sure you can do it currently. I guess the rigid body refinement will just stop is it noticed an atom at special position within a rigid group. Good luck! Pavel.
Hi Pavel,
Thanks for getting back to me. I think this could be quite useful, if for example you wanted to fix one end of a helix and allow the other end to move around during rigid body refinement. In my case, I'd ideally like to fix one end, and also limit the disulfide bond in the middle of the helix to some range (2-3 angstroms?). Any chance of this in the future?
Best regards,
Kendall
On 3/11/10 4:03 PM, "Pavel Afonine"
I have a few questions related to a 3.5 angstrom structure. I have one helix that I am having trouble placing accurately. It does have a cysteine that disulfide bonds with the same residue in a symmetry related molecule. Can I restrain this distance during a rigid body refinement of the helix? How do I do this? What kind of parameters would be appropriate for the disulfide?
Just discussed it with Ralf. Not sure you can do it currently. I guess the rigid body refinement will just stop is it noticed an atom at special position within a rigid group. Good luck! Pavel. _______________________________________________ phenixbb mailing list [email protected] http://phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb
Hi Kendall,
Thanks for getting back to me. I think this could be quite useful, if for example you wanted to fix one end of a helix and allow the other end to move around during rigid body refinement. In my case, I'd ideally like to fix one end, and also limit the disulfide bond in the middle of the helix to some range (2-3 angstroms?). Any chance of this in the future?
Not very soon, I'm afraid. It will require a lot of tricky special-case code to maintain the constraints. Ralf
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Kendall Nettles
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Nathaniel Echols
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Pavel Afonine
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Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve