Rfree doesn't decrease and keeps around 36%, High ramachandran outlier, High RMSD
Dear all, I am solving a structure which diffracted to 2.8 angstrom resolution and containes 8 molecules (MW:12 kDa) per ASU. It's noteworthy that though the model used for molecular replacement shares 50% sequence identity with my protein, however, severe clashes were found as listed below: Packing Table ------------- Solutions accepted if total number of clashes <= 5% of trace atoms i.e. total number of clashes <= 32 AND if number of clashes <= 5% of trace atoms for each ensemble i.e. ensemble1: number of clashes <= 4 # # #Clash Packs SpaceGroup Annotation 1 17 NO C 2 2 21 ... PAK=11 LLG=802 RFZ=3.8 TFZ=9.3 Only after I changed the packing criteria from 5% to 100%, can I get the solution. Severe clashes and even coincidence of different molecules were found as briefly listed below: Molecule A (C-terminal) vs Molecule D (N-terminal) of neighbouring ASU Molecule B (C-terminal) vs Molecule C (N-terminal) Molecule C (C-terminal) vs Molecule D (C-terminal) Molecule E (C-terminal) vs Molecule G (N-terminal) Molecule F (C-terminal) vs Molecule H (N-terminal) Molecule G (C-terminal) vs Molecule G (C-terminal) of neighbouring ASU Molecule H (C-terminal) vs Molecule H (C-terminal) of neighbouring ASU Upon this, I manually rebuild the structure in COOT and particularly deleted those coincided atoms. Then I refined the structure in phenix. However, all the refine gives a bad result, namely, RMSD(angle) at 1.8-2.1, RMSD(bond) at 0.015-0.02, The Rwork/Rfree at around 0.28/0.36, Ramachandran outlier + Rotamer outlier at around 15-20%. I tried a lot of refinement strategy and the current status is : RMSD(angle)= 1.545, RMSD(bond) = 0.01, Rwork/Rfree = 0.290.36, Ramachandran outlier=11.3%,Rotamer outlier =1.5%. The data set belonged to C2221 and phenix.xtriage analysis reflects no twinning or pseudotranslation problem. In addition, there are two beta-turns in each molecule which displays poor electron density and geometry. And this two loop are the very residues which appears in disallowed regions in ramachandran diagram apart some other residues. However, these residues should have little effect on the R factor considering of their low contribution to the overall structure due to their poor electron density. Has anyone has experiences about this? Your help and advice is greatly appreciated! Thank you! Chen -- Cheng Chen, Ph.D. Candidate Laboratory of Structural Biology Life Science Building,Tsinghua University Beijing 100084 China Tel:+86-10-62772291 Fax:+86-10-62773145 E-mail:[email protected] 北京市海淀区清华大学生命科学馆201-212室 邮编：100084
Hi Chen, I'm happy to have a closer look at this and try my best to help! Could you please send me the current model, data and sequence files? Once I have files I will try a things myself and see what's going on. Pavel On 5/12/16 05:48, chen c wrote:
Dear all,
I am solving a structure which diffracted to 2.8 angstrom resolution and containes 8 molecules (MW:12 kDa) per ASU. It's noteworthy that though the model used for molecular replacement shares 50% sequence identity with my protein, however, severe clashes were found as listed below:
Packing Table ------------- Solutions accepted if total number of clashes <= 5% of trace atoms i.e. total number of clashes <= 32 AND if number of clashes <= 5% of trace atoms for each ensemble i.e. ensemble1: number of clashes <= 4 # # #Clash Packs SpaceGroup Annotation 1 17 NO C 2 2 21 ... PAK=11 LLG=802 RFZ=3.8 TFZ=9.3
Only after I changed the packing criteria from 5% to 100%, can I get the solution.
Severe clashes and even coincidence of different molecules were found as briefly listed below:
Molecule A (C-terminal) vs Molecule D (N-terminal) of neighbouring ASU Molecule B (C-terminal) vs Molecule C (N-terminal) Molecule C (C-terminal) vs Molecule D (C-terminal) Molecule E (C-terminal) vs Molecule G (N-terminal) Molecule F (C-terminal) vs Molecule H (N-terminal) Molecule G (C-terminal) vs Molecule G (C-terminal) of neighbouring ASU Molecule H (C-terminal) vs Molecule H (C-terminal) of neighbouring ASU
Upon this, I manually rebuild the structure in COOT and particularly deleted those coincided atoms. Then I refined the structure in phenix. However, all the refine gives a bad result, namely, RMSD(angle) at 1.8-2.1, RMSD(bond) at 0.015-0.02, The Rwork/Rfree at around 0.28/0.36, Ramachandran outlier + Rotamer outlier at around 15-20%. I tried a lot of refinement strategy and the current status is :
RMSD(angle)= 1.545, RMSD(bond) = 0.01, Rwork/Rfree = 0.290.36, Ramachandran outlier=11.3%,Rotamer outlier =1.5%.
The data set belonged to C2221 and phenix.xtriage analysis reflects no twinning or pseudotranslation problem. In addition, there are two beta-turns in each molecule which displays poor electron density and geometry. And this two loop are the very residues which appears in disallowed regions in ramachandran diagram apart some other residues. However, these residues should have little effect on the R factor considering of their low contribution to the overall structure due to their poor electron density.
Has anyone has experiences about this? Your help and advice is greatly appreciated!
Thank you! Chen
-- Cheng Chen, Ph.D. Candidate Laboratory of Structural Biology Life Science Building,Tsinghua University Beijing 100084 China Tel:+86-10-62772291 Fax:+86-10-62773145 E-mail:[email protected] mailto:E-mail%[email protected]
北京市海淀区清华大学生命科学馆201-212室 邮编：100084
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