[cctbxbb] Not wishing to raise this again but...

Nicholas Sauter nksauter at lbl.gov
Mon Jun 13 15:22:31 PDT 2016


So why is it so hard to describe how to do bisection?  Despite the
responses on this BB trying to answer my question, I still don't have a
clear understanding of how to do it.  With svn it is just "svn update -r".

Nick

Nicholas K. Sauter, Ph. D.
Computer Staff Scientist, Molecular Biophysics and Integrated Bioimaging
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:24 PM, <richard.gildea at diamond.ac.uk> wrote:

> At least according to Google Trends, svn has been on a downward trend
> since about 2009/10, whereas git is still firmly on an upward trend (and
> overtook svn in popularity long ago):
>
> <
> https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore#q=git%20commit%2C%20svn%20commit&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-1
> >
>
> https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore#q=git%20commit%2C%20svn%20commit&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-1
> <
> https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore#q=git%20commit%2C%20svn%20commit&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-1
> ><
> https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore#q=git%20commit%2C%20svn%20commit&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-1
> ><
> https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore#q=git%20commit%2C%20svn%20commit&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-1
> >
>
> [cid:162fa876-cc25-6335-73af-714b0957d71e]
>
> I think that avoiding a move to git is simply delaying the inevitable (and
> if the cctbx didn't ever move with the times then we'd still be stuck with
> CVS). In my opinion, the potential benefits to using git far outweigh the
> (slightly) added complexity.
>
> <
> https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore#q=git%20commit%2C%20svn%20commit&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-1
> ><
> https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore#q=git%20commit%2C%20svn%20commit&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-1
> >Cheers,
>
> Richard
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: cctbxbb-bounces at phenix-online.org [cctbxbb-bounces at phenix-online.org]
> on behalf of Nicholas Sauter [nksauter at lbl.gov]
> Sent: 13 June 2016 22:05
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> Subject: Re: [cctbxbb] Not wishing to raise this again but...
>
> I'd vote against the switch to git.  Simple things, like svn update
> [remote directory] seem too complicated. As for slightly involved tasks
> like code bisection to locate the past commit that broke the test,
> well....I've never been able to figure this one out so I am pretty lost
> trying to debug DIALS.  I do not wish to make things difficult for the
> maintenance of cctbx.xfel.
>
> Nick
>
> Nicholas K. Sauter, Ph. D.
> Computer Staff Scientist, Molecular Biophysics and Integrated Bioimaging
> Division
> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
> 1 Cyclotron Rd., Bldg. 33R0345
> Berkeley, CA 94720
> (510) 486-5713
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Luc Bourhis <luc_j_bourhis at mac.com
> <mailto:luc_j_bourhis at mac.com>> wrote:
>
> On 13 Jun 2016, at 17:09, Graeme.Winter at Diamond.ac.uk<mailto:
> Graeme.Winter at diamond.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> … is there any enthusiasm out there for moving cctbx to git? The more I
> work with git the more I wish this existed properly for cctbx.
>
> I’ve raised this a bunch of times and always it is “not right now” however
> “a good idea” – this’ll be the last time I ask…
>
> Could we move to git, please? I note the bootstrap script for Windows now
> has a git dependency even!
>
> +1
>
> … and time to share some thoughts! It would be great if we could get the
> cctbx up and running by just cloning, configuring and building without
> needing to download anything else.
>
> That could be done by adding SCons, Boost, and ccp4io as  submodules in
> the cctbx repository. And I reckon ccp4io_adaptbx should be added as a
> subtree since it is developed by the same people as the cctbx.
>
> Just an idea to think about as I haven’t not worked out the details at all.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Luc
>
>
>
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