<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Hi Richard,</font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">I'm positive I did the most naïve thing (i.e. what a typical user would do) and</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">1. googled "cctbx"</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">2. clicked on the top hit (<a href="http://cctbx.sourceforge.net/">http://cctbx.sourceforge.net/</a>)</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">3. clicked on downloads (<a href="http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_build/">http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_build/</a>)</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">4. scrolled down to sources and clicked the first link</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">(<a href="http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_build/results/2012_05_08_2305/cctbx_python_273_bundle.selfx">http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_build/results/2012_05_08_2305/cctbx_python_273_bundle.selfx</a>)</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Note that the build tag (2012_05_08_2305) of the sources match the precompiled binaries. This tag also matches the most recent of the "Local build times" panel. I didn't notice the "Show unreleased builds" link, but I'm not sure it would have made much difference because it doesn't explain what those builds are.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">A helpful addition to the download page might be conspicuous instructions for an svn/git/hg/etc checkout of the "latest-greatest" development tree, if the sources are preferable to the released builds. Many projects support that mechanism of distribution. For some projects, like git itself (<a href="http://git-scm.com/downloads">http://git-scm.com/downloads</a>), this is the recommended way of acquiring the sources. If the package needs to be bundled into an archive, maybe there should be a conspicuous "nightly build" link.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">James</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font><div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Richard Gildea wrote:</font></div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Hi James,</font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div style=""><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Can I ask what version of the cctbx are you attempting to build? For some time (at least several months) it has been possible to build the cctbx (and the whole of Phenix) using the default clang on the latest Mac OS X. Most of the Phenix developers here in Berkeley are now using clang on the latest OS X, so someone would almost certainly notice immediately if something wasn't building correctly. The latest "released" build of the cctbx (dating from May 2012!) does not build with clang as I recall. Unfortunately we do not have an official release mechanism for the cctbx, beyond Nat deciding when to mark one of the nightly builds as a release. Clearly the current "released" version is rather old and we should replace it with a more recent version. For now I would recommend trying with one of the more recent nightly builds (e.g. <a href="http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_build/show_results.cgi?build_tag=2013_03_22_0005">http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_build/show_results.cgi?build_tag=2013_03_22_0005</a>), or checking the code out directly from svn.</font></div>
<div style=""><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div style=""><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Cheers,</font></div><div style=""><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div style=""><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Richard</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br><br></font><div class="gmail_quote"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">On 22 March 2013 03:36, Luc Bourhis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:luc_j_bourhis@mac.com" target="_blank">luc_j_bourhis@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</font><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Hi James,</font><div class="im"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font><blockquote type="cite"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Lucida Sans'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; "><span style="font-family:Monaco"><div>
1. The default c++ compiler for OS X 10.7 is actually clang (``/usr/bin/c++``).</div><div> Using clang exposes invalid template code. The first of many errors is::</div><div><br></div><div> In file included from</div>
<div> /opt/cctbx/cctbx_sources/mmtbx/bulk_solvent/bulk_solvent_ext.cpp:7:</div><div> /opt/cctbx/cctbx_sources/mmtbx/bulk_solvent/bulk_solvent.h:496:21:</div><div> error: call to function 'r_factor' that is neither visible in the template</div>
<div> definition nor found by argument-dependent lookup</div><div> r.push_back(r_factor(f_obs, f_model.const_ref()));</div></span></span><br></font></blockquote></div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">we definitively need to fix that then. I'll give it a go over the weekend.</font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Best wishes,</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Luc</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div></div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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