[phenixbb] high average b-factor vs. Wilson B - EXPLANATION
Pavel Afonine
pafonine at lbl.gov
Fri Aug 6 13:17:48 PDT 2010
Hi Phil,
Just to make sure I got your point correctly... Are you suggesting to
add Bcryst to the total ADP as well (so it is always included into
isotropic B in ATOM record and anisotropic b in ANISOU record),
similarly to what we already do with TLS contribution?
If we do that:
- all atoms will always have ANISOU (because Bcryst is anisotropic);
- do you know how to convert Bcryst obtained in reciprocal space to the
one in real space (so it can be added to individual ADP) (never thought
about it - am I asking something stupid....?)?
Thanks!
Pavel.
On 8/6/10 12:58 PM, Phil Jeffrey wrote:
> Pavel Afonine wrote:
>>
>> in summary, in that email I wrote that there are two ways of how you
>> can handle the total B-factor and one of its components (Bcryst). You
>> can subtract the trace of Bcryst and add it to individual ADPs (what
>> CNS does, for example) or you can keep Bcryst as it is. Both ways do
>> not change the Fmodel and therefore the R-factors. So I can't see how
>> you conclude from this about refinement stability. These are purely
>> formatting/convention things.
>
> Strikes me that the convention should be that the B-factors associated
> with the atoms should be in the PDB B-factor field associated with
> those atoms, subject to the ability to represent the ADP model.
> Burying a constant isotropic offset in the PDB header - which might be
> of variable format depending on what program is used - seems like a
> good way to get the overall ADP of the model to be incorrectly assessed.
>
>
> This would seem to be analogous to the difference between reporting
> the equivalent total B-iso in the isotropic B-factor field in TLS
> refinement (as phenix.refine does) versus reporting just the residual
> B (REFMAC default behavior). i.e. all the information is in the PDB
> file somewhere, but it's not necessarily where you expect it to be. I
> rather prefer the phenix.refine method for this.
>
>
> Since most of the interest with Wilson B seems to be comparing Fmodel
> with the Fobs, it may make more sense to compare the Wilson B
> calculated from Fmodel with the Wilson B calculated with Fobs, which
> might at least cancel out some of the errors in the calculation. The
> underlying question seems to be "does the distribution of |Fmodel|
> with resolution match that of |Fobs|".
>
> Phil Jeffrey
> Princeton
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