[phenixbb] Trouble with occupancy refinement

Pavel Afonine pafonine at lbl.gov
Mon Feb 8 17:22:44 PST 2016


Hi,

I agree: having different occupancies for covalently linked atoms 
doesn't make much sense! If ligand is partially occupied then simply 
refine its overall occupancy.

Pavel

On 2/7/16 14:44, Christian Roth wrote:
> Dear Chris,
>
> personally I wouldn't go for different occupancies in one ligand and 
> set everything to 1 or everything to a values of your choice 
> (constraint groups necessary). I would also check the electron density 
> and the RSRZ for your ligands. The B-factors look quite high. 
> Concerning the outliers, that is due to slight variations in the 
> boundaries. Your outliers are probably exactly on a boundary. I 
> wouldn't worry too much about that. They are fine.
>
> Cheers
>
> Christian
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Chris Fage <cdfage at gmail.com 
> <mailto:cdfage at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     The non-unity occupancies were scattered among different glucose
>     (and BICINE) molecules, as shown below. But, again, I think the
>     occupancy refinement doesn't contribute much to the final model/maps.
>
>     Another concern of mind is that phenix.refine reports no
>     Ramachandran outliers in the results, but the plot in Coot lists
>     5. I'm tempted to trust Coot here and attempt to fix these
>     boundary cases.
>
>     Best,
>     Chris
>
>     HETATM10716 N1  BCN S   1 33.836  34.201  59.534 0.18
>     23.53           N
>
>     HETATM10717 C1  BCN S   1 34.230  32.958  58.836
>     0.70179.13           C
>
>     HETATM10718 C2  BCN S   1 34.891  33.313  57.492
>     1.00115.73           C
>
>     HETATM10719 O21 BCN S 1      34.957  34.518 57.119 
>     1.00109.54           O
>
>     HETATM10720 O22 BCN S 1      35.367  32.401 56.762 
>     1.00108.31           O
>
>     HETATM10721 C3  BCN S   1 34.436  34.251  60.889
>     1.00133.37           C
>
>     HETATM10722 C4  BCN S   1 35.959  33.990  60.820
>      1.00145.21           C
>
>     HETATM10723 O4  BCN S   1 36.512  34.130  62.106
>     1.00128.90           O
>
>     HETATM10724 C5  BCN S   1 32.359  34.284  59.630
>     1.00138.45           C
>
>     HETATM10725 C6  BCN S   1 31.834  33.285  60.690 1.00149.79    
>           C
>
>     HETATM10726 O6  BCN S   1 31.344  32.131  60.054
>     1.00182.66           O
>
>     TER
>
>     HETATM10727 C1  GLC T   1 29.246  35.417  65.683
>     1.00146.58           C
>
>     HETATM10728 O1  GLC T   1 28.834  34.126  66.073
>     0.96127.55           O
>
>     HETATM10729 O5  GLC T   1 28.195  36.040  64.979
>     1.00124.69           O
>
>     HETATM10730 C5  GLC T   1 28.505  37.368  64.624
>     1.00122.20           C
>
>     HETATM10731 C6  GLC T   1 27.259  38.050  64.075
>     1.00119.08           C
>
>     HETATM10732 O6  GLC T   1 26.187  37.862  64.970
>     1.00119.13           O
>
>     HETATM10733 C4  GLC T   1 29.637  37.367  63.604
>     1.00136.04           C
>
>     HETATM10734 O4  GLC T   1 29.990  38.695  63.289
>     1.00149.55           O
>
>     HETATM10735 C3  GLC T   1 30.857  36.629  64.144
>     1.00123.84           C
>
>     HETATM10736 O3  GLC T   1 31.753  36.382  63.084
>     1.00155.37           O
>
>     HETATM10737 C2  GLC T   1 30.484  35.302  64.800
>     1.00125.03           C
>
>     HETATM10738 O2  GLC T   1 31.567  34.865  65.591
>     0.63132.05           O
>
>     TER
>
>     HETATM10739 C1  GLC U   1 66.828  61.786 109.714 
>     1.00143.00           C
>
>     HETATM10740 O1  GLC U   1 67.797  62.779 109.467 
>     0.00156.33           O
>
>     HETATM10741 O5  GLC U   1 67.461  60.579 110.071 
>     1.00138.44           O
>
>     HETATM10742 C5  GLC U   1 66.549  59.587 110.494 
>     1.00130.87           C
>
>     HETATM10743 C6  GLC U   1 67.332  58.348 110.912 
>     1.00126.41           C
>
>     HETATM10744 O6  GLC U   1 66.446  57.387 111.438 
>     1.00130.55           O
>
>     HETATM10745 C4  GLC U   1 65.554  59.239 109.389 
>     1.00143.93           C
>
>     HETATM10746 O4  GLC U   1 64.505  58.479 109.947  1.00
>     96.88           O
>
>     HETATM10747 C3  GLC U   1 64.961  60.468 108.707 
>     1.00123.83           C
>
>     HETATM10748 O3  GLC U   1 64.402  60.081 107.473 
>     0.00105.55           O
>
>     HETATM10749 C2  GLC U   1 66.006  61.547 108.457 
>     1.00183.06           C
>
>     HETATM10750 O2  GLC U   1 65.369  62.743 108.070 
>     1.00139.75           O
>
>     TER
>
>     HETATM10751 C1  GLC V   1 54.972  17.830  19.939
>     1.00169.39           C
>
>     HETATM10752 O1  GLC V   1 53.783  17.971  20.683
>     1.00144.51           O
>
>     HETATM10753 O5  GLC V   1 54.838  16.740  19.052
>     1.00159.54           O
>
>     HETATM10754 C5  GLC V   1 55.968  16.571  18.224
>     1.00189.07           C
>
>     HETATM10755 C6  GLC V   1 55.684  15.517  17.160
>     0.00157.50           C
>
>     HETATM10756 O6  GLC V   1 56.642  15.622  16.130
>     0.00150.00           O
>
>     HETATM10757 C4  GLC V   1 57.171  16.190  19.078
>     1.00197.13           C
>
>     HETATM10758 O4  GLC V   1 58.312  16.053  18.263
>     0.00169.52           O
>
>     HETATM10759 C3  GLC V   1 57.420  17.249  20.145
>     1.00158.70           C
>
>     HETATM10760 O3  GLC V   1 58.385  16.779  21.059 1.00146.18     
>          O
>
>     HETATM10761 C2  GLC V   1 56.137  17.593  20.894
>     1.00148.03           C
>
>     HETATM10762 O2  GLC V   1 56.348  18.756  21.663
>     0.00152.95           O
>
>     TER
>
>     HETATM10763 C1  GLC W   1 31.538  68.920 102.287 
>     1.00113.76           C
>
>     HETATM10764 O1  GLC W   1 32.846  68.776 101.784 
>     1.00103.09           O
>
>     HETATM10765 O5  GLC W   1 30.704  67.928 101.734 
>     1.00117.86           O
>
>     HETATM10766 C5  GLC W   1 29.403  67.910 102.284 
>     1.00115.04           C
>
>     HETATM10767 C6  GLC W   1 28.609  66.817 101.581 
>     1.00106.54           C
>
>     HETATM10768 O6  GLC W   1 28.601  67.074 100.194 
>     0.00111.10           O
>
>     HETATM10769 C4  GLC W   1 28.697  69.256 102.122 
>     1.00117.67           C
>
>     HETATM10770 O4  GLC W   1 27.558  69.277 102.955 
>     1.00115.60           O
>
>     HETATM10771 C3  GLC W   1 29.585  70.446 102.474 
>     1.00115.77           C
>
>     HETATM10772 O3  GLC W   1 29.006  71.627 101.968 
>     1.00111.82           O
>
>     HETATM10773 C2  GLC W   1 30.984  70.282 101.897 
>     1.00114.72           C
>
>     HETATM10774 O2  GLC W   1 31.827  71.303 102.379 
>     0.00116.48           O
>
>     TER
>
>     HETATM10775 C1  GLC X   1 54.211  45.223  25.697
>     1.00206.04           C
>
>     HETATM10776 O1  GLC X   1 55.322  45.961  25.241
>     1.00187.48           O
>
>     HETATM10777 O5  GLC X   1 54.574  44.469  26.835
>     1.00228.70           O
>
>     HETATM10778 C5  GLC X   1 53.489  43.765  27.404
>     1.00223.60           C
>
>     HETATM10779 C6  GLC X   1 53.941  43.080  28.688
>     1.00159.71           C
>
>     HETATM10780 O6  GLC X   1 54.911  42.103  28.384
>     1.00166.38           O
>
>     HETATM10781 C4  GLC X   1 52.939  42.753  26.403
>     1.00163.35           C
>
>     HETATM10782 O4  GLC X   1 51.806  42.113  26.943
>     0.00168.67           O
>
>     HETATM10783 C3  GLC X   1 52.564  43.445  25.098
>     0.00164.83           C
>
>     HETATM10784 O3  GLC X   1 52.207  42.489  24.126
>     0.00154.76           O
>
>     HETATM10785 C2  GLC X   1 53.724  44.292  24.593
>     1.00198.64           C
>
>     HETATM10786 O2  GLC X   1   53.308  45.050 23.479 
>     1.00201.68           O
>
>     TER
>
>     HETATM10787 C1  GLC Y   1 36.970  50.317  37.435
>     1.00100.18           C
>
>     HETATM10788 O1  GLC Y   1 37.809  50.485  36.323
>     1.00106.33           O
>
>     HETATM10789 O5  GLC Y   1 35.664  50.350  36.918 1.00
>     98.74           O
>
>     HETATM10790 C5  GLC Y   1 34.675  50.321  37.911 1.00
>     96.58           C
>
>     HETATM10791 C6  GLC Y   1 33.320  50.170  37.238 1.00
>     94.30           C
>
>     HETATM10792 O6  GLC Y   1 32.352  49.935  38.233 1.00
>     97.38           O
>
>     HETATM10793 C4  GLC Y   1 34.760  51.605  38.726 1.00
>     94.56           C
>
>     HETATM10794 O4  GLC Y   1 33.716  51.637  39.676 0.78
>     97.91           O
>
>     HETATM10795 C3  GLC Y   1 36.127  51.715  39.398 1.00 96.51      
>         C
>
>     HETATM10796 O3  GLC Y   1 36.299  53.002  39.950 1.00
>     97.63           O
>
>     HETATM10797 C2  GLC Y   1 37.230  51.499  38.366 1.00
>     98.97           C
>
>     HETATM10798 O2  GLC Y   1 38.505  51.392  38.983
>     1.00101.52           O
>
>     TER
>
>     HETATM10799 C1  GLC Z   1 42.915  71.571  76.690
>     1.00101.13           C
>
>     HETATM10800 O1  GLC Z   1 42.711  71.632  75.297
>     0.00103.04           O
>
>     HETATM10801 O5  GLC Z   1 43.618  72.718  77.112
>     1.00100.13           O
>
>     HETATM10802 C5  GLC Z   1 43.763  72.783  78.514
>     1.00103.11           C
>
>     HETATM10803 C6  GLC Z   1 44.396  74.119  78.887
>     1.00100.33           C
>
>     HETATM10804 O6  GLC Z   1 43.852  74.583  80.101
>     1.00102.36           O
>
>     HETATM10805 C4  GLC Z   1 44.596  71.607  79.018
>     1.00101.96           C
>
>     HETATM10806 O4  GLC Z   1 44.627  71.613  80.428 0.00
>     99.19           O
>
>     HETATM10807 C3  GLC Z   1 44.030  70.278  78.527
>     1.00100.06           C
>
>     HETATM10808 O3  GLC Z   1 44.956  69.245  78.783 1.00
>     95.83           O
>
>     HETATM10809 C2  GLC Z   1 43.723  70.326  77.035 1.00
>     94.68           C
>
>     HETATM10810 O2  GLC Z   1 42.998  69.176  76.663 1.00
>     91.83           O
>
>
>     On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Christian Roth
>     <christianroth034 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Hi Chris, what would concern me is that one glucose have atoms
>         with different occupancies or all of them. That is chemically
>         unlikely. You should define sensible constraint groups, I think.
>
>         Cheers Christian
>
>         On 5 Feb 2016 18:09, "Chris Fage" <cdfage at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>             Hi Pavel,
>
>             The B-factors of these atoms are quite high (most are
>             100+), so maybe the occupancy is compensating as you said.
>             After refinement, the maps don't look much different.
>             Perhaps it's not worth bothering with occupancy
>             refinement, then?
>
>             I think you got my question. I was asking if it is unusual
>             that only 5/93 occupancies were refined to values other
>             than 0 or 1.
>
>             Best,
>             Chris
>
>             On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Pavel Afonine
>             <pafonine at lbl.gov> wrote:
>
>                 Hi Chris,
>
>                     I've built several glucose molecules from my
>                     cryosolution into regions of weaker electron
>                     density. Attempting to refine the occupancies of
>                     the corresponding atoms, I set the value of each
>                     to 0.25 in the pdb file. However, after running
>                     phenix.refine, most of the atoms still have
>                     occupancies of 1.00:
>
>
>                 perhaps they are fully occupied but highly mobile
>                 which explains weak density? Or B-factor refines to
>                 larger value so that occupancy tries to compensate?
>                 How maps look like after refinement?
>
>                     14 atoms with occ = 0.00
>                     5 atoms with 0.00 < occ < 1.00
>                     74 atoms with occ = 1.00
>
>                     Is this unusual?
>
>
>                 Do you mean is it unusual to have 5 atoms in your
>                 structure with occupancies between 0 and 1? Hm.. I
>                 don't know, may be not! I think I'm not understanding
>                 what's the real question here..
>
>                 Pavel
>
>
>
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