Hi, I think the “d99” criterion described in this preprint (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/03/14/279844) looks like a really interesting FSC-independent way to measure res in real space, and I’d like to give it a go on my maps (particularly those where I am suspicious of the FSC-based res based on map appearance, or where I suspect overfitting). Is it available in any phenix package at present? The scripts site mentioned in the preprint (http://phenix-online.org/phenix_data/afonine/cryoem_validation/) is currently rather sparsely populated. (Also, I wonder whether a directional version of the d99 criterion might be useful to estimate anisotropic res in the case of a preferred orientation, analogous to the 3D-FSC approach of Yong-Zi Tan and Dmitry Lyumkis?) Cheers Oli
Dear Oli,
The d99 criterion is available in the phenix.mtriage program.
Best wishes,
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Ricardo Diogo Righetto
2018-05-26 20:44 GMT+02:00 Oliver Clarke
Hi,
I think the “d99” criterion described in this preprint ( https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/03/14/279844) looks like a really interesting FSC-independent way to measure res in real space, and I’d like to give it a go on my maps (particularly those where I am suspicious of the FSC-based res based on map appearance, or where I suspect overfitting).
Is it available in any phenix package at present? The scripts site mentioned in the preprint (http://phenix-online.org/ phenix_data/afonine/cryoem_validation/) is currently rather sparsely populated.
(Also, I wonder whether a directional version of the d99 criterion might be useful to estimate anisotropic res in the case of a preferred orientation, analogous to the 3D-FSC approach of Yong-Zi Tan and Dmitry Lyumkis?)
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Ah right, thanks Ricardo! I thought that might be the case, but there was nothing in the command line help or online docs to indicate it, and whenever I attempt to run phenix.mtriage, I get the error "Sorry: No box info (aka crystal symmetry) available”, even when I run it on the map generated by phenix.auto_sharpen. There also doesn’t seem to be any option to provide this info on the command line (except in the form of a model, I guess). Cheers Oli
On May 26, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Ricardo Righetto
wrote: Dear Oli,
The d99 criterion is available in the phenix.mtriage program.
Best wishes,
-- Ricardo Diogo Righetto
2018-05-26 20:44 GMT+02:00 Oliver Clarke
mailto:[email protected]>: Hi, I think the “d99” criterion described in this preprint (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/03/14/279844 https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/03/14/279844) looks like a really interesting FSC-independent way to measure res in real space, and I’d like to give it a go on my maps (particularly those where I am suspicious of the FSC-based res based on map appearance, or where I suspect overfitting).
Is it available in any phenix package at present? The scripts site mentioned in the preprint (http://phenix-online.org/phenix_data/afonine/cryoem_validation/ http://phenix-online.org/phenix_data/afonine/cryoem_validation/) is currently rather sparsely populated.
(Also, I wonder whether a directional version of the d99 criterion might be useful to estimate anisotropic res in the case of a preferred orientation, analogous to the 3D-FSC approach of Yong-Zi Tan and Dmitry Lyumkis?)
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Hi Oli,
Try adding the keyword "map_file_name":
phenix.mtriage map_file_name=my_map.ccp4
Let me know if that doesn't do it!
All the best,
Tom
On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM, Oliver Clarke
Ah right, thanks Ricardo!
I thought that might be the case, but there was nothing in the command line help or online docs to indicate it, and whenever I attempt to run phenix.mtriage, I get the error "Sorry: No box info (aka crystal symmetry) available”, even when I run it on the map generated by phenix.auto_sharpen. There also doesn’t seem to be any option to provide this info on the command line (except in the form of a model, I guess).
Cheers Oli
On May 26, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Ricardo Righetto
wrote: Dear Oli,
The d99 criterion is available in the phenix.mtriage program.
Best wishes,
-- Ricardo Diogo Righetto
2018-05-26 20:44 GMT+02:00 Oliver Clarke
: Hi,
I think the “d99” criterion described in this preprint ( https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/03/14/279844) looks like a really interesting FSC-independent way to measure res in real space, and I’d like to give it a go on my maps (particularly those where I am suspicious of the FSC-based res based on map appearance, or where I suspect overfitting).
Is it available in any phenix package at present? The scripts site mentioned in the preprint (http://phenix-online.org/phen ix_data/afonine/cryoem_validation/) is currently rather sparsely populated.
(Also, I wonder whether a directional version of the d99 criterion might be useful to estimate anisotropic res in the case of a preferred orientation, analogous to the 3D-FSC approach of Yong-Zi Tan and Dmitry Lyumkis?)
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Hi, in the GUI it is called Mtriage (see in Data analysis). If you give it map, half-maps, model it will show various resolution estimates discussed in this preprint as well as plot various FSC curves and will output the mask used. You need to use latest Phenix for this (dev-3152 and up). Pavel On 5/26/18 11:44, Oliver Clarke wrote:
Hi,
I think the “d99” criterion described in this preprint (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/03/14/279844) looks like a really interesting FSC-independent way to measure res in real space, and I’d like to give it a go on my maps (particularly those where I am suspicious of the FSC-based res based on map appearance, or where I suspect overfitting).
Is it available in any phenix package at present? The scripts site mentioned in the preprint (http://phenix-online.org/phenix_data/afonine/cryoem_validation/) is currently rather sparsely populated.
(Also, I wonder whether a directional version of the d99 criterion might be useful to estimate anisotropic res in the case of a preferred orientation, analogous to the 3D-FSC approach of Yong-Zi Tan and Dmitry Lyumkis?)
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Oliver Clarke
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Pavel Afonine
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Ricardo Righetto
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Tom Terwilliger